Culture The misogynist incel movement is spreading. Should it be classified as a terror threat? - Incels rise up?


As attacks linked to the misogynist “incel” movement mounted in recent years, authorities around the world have begun to treat the ideology as a more serious terrorism threat.
Since 2014, men who call themselves “involuntary celibates” and blame women for their own lack of sexual and social status have carried out mass killings in California, Florida, and Toronto.
On Wednesday, a judge in Canada delivered a guilty verdict for the perpetrator of the 2018 Toronto van attack, which left 10 people dead and 16 injured – the deadliest incident linked to the incel movement.

In her verdict, the judge found that the attacker’s resentment towards women was one among several motivating factors, but experts warn that such incidents are becoming more frequent, and that the ideology behind them is spreading internationally.

2020 saw a string of incel-related incidents, including a machete attack at a Toronto massage parlor, a shooting at an Arizona mall which injured three people, a man who blew up his own hand with explosives in Virginia, and a New York man charged by federal prosecutors for targeting a couple with violent threats.
While only one of those attacks was fatal, “the fact those incidents weren’t worse is more luck than good counterterrorism,” said Jacob Ware, a terrorism researcher who studies the incel movement. “2020 was a bad year for incel violence.”

There are also signs the ideology is spreading beyond North America: in the UK, at least two recent terror trials included discussion of incel ideas as a motivation.
And as incel-related attacks have multiplied, the ideology has begun to get more attention from both law enforcement and counterterrorism researchers, sparking debate over whether it is useful to classify this kind of ideological violence against women as terrorism.

Last spring, Canada announced terrorism charges against a 17-year-old Toronto resident for the murder of 24-year-old Ashley Noelle Arzaga at a massage parlor, an attack law enforcement said was motivated by incel extremism. It was the first time Canada had charged anyone with incel-related terrorism.
Incel-related violence “seems to be increasing,” said Alex DiBranco, the executive director of the Institute for Research on Male Supremacism, and one of the authors of a recent report on misogynist violence. And, despite growing attention, “It’s still not being taken as seriously as it needs to be.”

Measuring the toll

By some counts, incel-related attacks in the United States and Canada have claimed as many as 40 to 50 lives, DiBranco and Ware said. But that statistic includes the toll of several large school shootings – including a 2015 shooting at a college in Roseburg, Oregon and a 2018 high school shooting in Parkland, Florida – in which the perpetrators made some mention of incel ideology alongside other grievances.
The number of casualties in the attacks most clearly motivated by incel ideology is smaller, and starts with the 2014 Isla Vista attack at the University of California, Santa Barbara, in which a 22-year-old killed six people and injured 14 others.
The Isla Vista perpetrator has been cited as a direct inspiration by other attackers, including the 28-year-old Canadian man convicted on Wednesday who posted about an “incel rebellion” on Facebook shortly before plowing his rental van into pedestrians on a Toronto street.

There are other attacks that predate the growth of the online incel movement, but that fit a similar pattern of anger towards women, including a 2009 attack on a fitness center in Pennsylvania, and the mass shooting of 14 female engineering students in Montreal in 1989 by a man who wrote of his rage against feminism.

So far, incel-related violence has not become a terror threat in the United States on the same scale as other violent ideologies, according to an analysis of domestic terror attacks by the New America Foundation.
Since 9/11, far rightwing attacks killed 114 people, and jihadist attacks had killed 107 people, while only nine people had been killed in American misogynist and incel attacks, the New America Foundation analysis found.
This count includes a July 2020 attack, in which an anti-feminist lawyer opened fire at the home of a female federal judge in New Jersey, leaving her son dead, an attack experts said was linked to misogyny, but not the incel movement specifically.
But incel terrorism in the United States has been much deadlier than far-left terrorism, which receives intense political and media attention in the US, the New America analysis found. Its data lists only a single person killed in a far-left attack in the US since 9/11.

What response is right?

Some experts are skeptical of the value of approaching the incel movement through a counterterrorism lens, rather than as a public health problem, said Ware adding that some see a risk in making the movement “look like a bigger deal than it is”.
“Incels display very high levels of mental health issues. They display high levels of a history of bullying. This is a movement that is desperately sad,” he said.
At the same time, he said, “Incel violence is ideological violence against civilians, to prove an ideological point or create psychological fear. That makes it terrorism.”

The Isla Vista shooter made clear in his manifesto that he wanted to make women afraid, said DiBranco.
“Though misogynist incels are often perceived as a movement without political aims, violent perpetrators have the same type of far-reaching aims that white nationalists have: to completely change the culture and politics of society to favor their own group,” she and her co-authors wrote in a February report.
“This is an ideology. It’s not a psychological disorder,” she said. “There’s a lot of undue sympathy.”
 
Yeah you're right. Whinging like a faggot on the Internet about how all women are whores and how some dudes with no social skills, gym gains or lucrative career are somehow due a handout is a much better plan for getting a relationship.
Actually, one of the main things incels complain about is how you can have all of those and women will still ditch you all because someone more attractive came along, even if they're abusive and a bum.
 
Yeah you're right. Whinging like a faggot on the Internet about how all women are whores and how some dudes with no social skills, gym gains or lucrative career are somehow due a handout is a much better plan for getting a relationship.
Incels are faggots, confirmed. But regular people who try to get into relationships are failing. Marriage is down, divorce is high, births are way down.

No one is succeeding at this, not even the Chads. I would rather whine about it than attempt it and suffer the consequences of failure.
 
Incels are faggots, confirmed. But regular people who try to get into relationships are failing. Marriage is down, divorce is high, births are way down.

No one is succeeding at this, not even the Chads. I would rather whine about it than attempt it and suffer the consequences of failure.
Failure that doesn't cripple you in some fashion is a learning opportunity. A certain tolerance for failure as a possible outcome of any venture that is not literally life-and-death is needed to get through life in general. When you fail at something, take a step back and ask yourself what was in your control, what was not, what you can bring more under your control and what you can't, and how you move forward from that. Also, learn from OTHERS' mistakes as well, it's usually a free lesson.
 
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>men's mental health is constantly ignored and mocked
>male suicide rates are spiking
>homeless men are left to rot on the street and men make up most of the homeless population
>adult male virginity rates have gone up to 30.5 percent in recent years as well as the rates of single men going up
Yeah, let's label men who are already pissed off at society for treating them like shit terrorists, whAt COulD gO WroNG?
they cut their dicks off over promise of becoming lesbians and then kill themselves
 
Failure that doesn't cripple you in some fashion is a learning opportunity. A certain tolerance for failure as a possible outcome of any venture that is not literally life-and-death is needed to get through life in general. When you fail at something, take a step back and ask yourself what was in your control, what was not, what you can bring more under your control and what you can't, and how you move forward from that. Also, learn from OTHERS' mistakes as well, it's usually a free lesson.
Learning from failure only benefits you if there is a chance for success. 50% divorce rate is not promising. And the cost of failure is quite fucking high. Better to not try at all.

The risk is not worth the reward.
 
Men aren't entitled to sex but neither are women and they can get it whenever they like. That's the annoying part.
 
Actually, one of the main things incels complain about is how you can have all of those and women will still ditch you all because someone more attractive came along, even if they're abusive and a bum.
A lot of incels and MGTOWs are enraged by women's "hypergamous nature", but they don't seem willing to admit men have the exact same tendencies. They love the idea of women hitting the wall and being tossed aside like trash for a younger, sexier model, even one who's an unstable nut job. Male and female reproductive strategies were shaped by equal and opposite forces, and women have no more control over their instinctive sexual preferences than men do (it all comes down to this: "sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive"). If women were as horny and easy to convince into fucking as men, then men would be a hell of a lot pickier than they are about who they decided to sleep with too; as it is, men are more willing to "settle" with average looking women not because they're less superficial or somehow more noble than us, it's because they know their options are more limited. As women age our options become increasingly limited as well, so it balances out in that way.

Monogamous marriage was equally beneficial to both men and women: it kept a small portion of high status males from monopolizing the young, fertile females, and it kept males from abandoning females to fend for themselves once they became older and less attractive. Most importantly, it provided a stable environment for children to be raised by both biological parents.

Normalizing sex before marriage was a disaster, and normalizing divorce--especially no fault divorce--was the nail in the coffin.
 
This media hysteria is like a metronome.

The submoronic, vapid idiots on facebook and instagram who buy this shit without a single critical thought are so full of cognitive dissonance and doublethink, it's astounding.

One minute, they're sneering down at anyone who questions their so called platonic truth of eternal female victimhood. Bashing a strawman based on a delusional mindset based on high school movies that ceased to exist years ago.

The next, they're crying and cowering at the exact same people, expecting these people they once scorned as weak limbed losers, fucking failures, to shoot them up anytime soon. Physical strength is proportionate to moral character, and damnable civilization evened the scales, allowing those who do not reach the favour of women, who are in their minds the perfect judges of character, the privilege of murder.

In their minds, these so called incels embody two archetypes: that of a parasitic subhuman, ineffective in every conceivable way, who deserves to be smashed down in the mud like an insect for his thoughtcrimes. He is not a product of society and culture at all, for he has sprung from the primordial void to be like this.

The second archetype is that of the terrifying invader who comes to murder, rape and pillage. This has been around since the dawn of man.

The only way the idea of an incel can embody both these stereotypes at once is through extreme cognitive dissonance, the willingness to dehumanize your peers, and the inability to separate an individual from the group.

As a second generation chinese immigrant, these stereotypes used to apply to us.

There's been a stereotype that we were pathetic, emasculated and useless, while at the same time they feared that we were gonna take their women and bind their feet. They were confused as to whether we were cowards or brutes, so they decided to say we were both instead.

Instead of questioning the way our culture views sex and relationships, and how these pressures create incels, they've decided to do the same thing they did with the chinese, except this time they're doing it with an entire generation of men.

I've suspected this is a social engineering tactic to pressure neurodivergents like me to stay in their lane and never change shit ever again.

They're bad, not because of mental health or sexist messages in media... these young men, they're just bad. They no longer deserve human dignity. They deserve to be strung up from the ceiling by meathooks through their flesh while the Good People cackle righteously at their suffering like Georgian aristocrats visiting an insane asylum.

They need someone to hate and laugh one second, and fear the next depending on what the media wants them to think.

And everything you read up there is invalid because someone replied "found the incel" or "yikes a lot of incels here" and gets a hundred laughing emojis. It is characteristic of cowards, people who are fully convinced that their preconceived biases are absolute fact, to shout a buzzword at what doesn't compute and bask in the ensuing glory.

Such responses do not amount to anything more than a fit of brainless laughter, as they do not convey any logical argument, but are instead the replier signifying his own social status, as though he believes his word is fact.

It is mere social posturing to imply that "I am right, and you are wrong!" and pretend the ensuing upvotes mean anything.

A gorilla beating his chest is at least honest about his intentions: the human disguises his posturing as an argument using words that cannot be argued against except "No, I'm not!"
 
Conniving media aside, a growing number of unattached young males is a massive problem. A problem many societies in the past have also been on the receiving end of. A lack of family leaves them with little grounding in society and thought for the future. Said young males tend to be rambunctious, impulsive, easily bought into anarchistic movements and bizarre cults, and at the perfect age to throw molotov cocktails.
 
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