Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[Android raptor]

Thing is actually having a disability isn't just being picky. Even autists with sensory issues cannot eat certain food no matter how hungry they are, that's why you sometimes hear about kids with severe issues literally starving because they can't eat certain foods. Or they'll just puke the food up if you force them to eat it.

That's where the problem lies, Karen's think it's just pickiness when it's actually a trait of their kids disability. It's like saying kids who have allergies are just picky.

It's dumb when people publically post about how frog babies are special miracles, but it's also shitty when people publically trash their disabled child for something the kid has zero control over.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Thing is actually having a disability isn't just being picky. Even autists with sensory issues cannot eat certain food no matter how hungry they are, that's why you sometimes hear about kids with severe issues literally starving because they can't eat certain foods. Or they'll just puke the food up if you force them to eat it.

That's where the problem lies, Karen's think it's just pickiness when it's actually a trait of their kids disability. It's like saying kids who have allergies are just picky.

It's dumb when people publically post about how frog babies are special miracles, but it's also shitty when people publically trash their disabled child for something the kid has zero control over.

Yup, ARFID is a real thing it isnt just about being a picky eater.

 

[just lurking]

Spoiler: Powerlevel

I have ARFID (mild version) and if I eat certain foods/certain textures make me gag to the point of tears and near vomitting. I went away to camp one year for 3 weeks and I starved most of it due to the food. Being hungry didn't make me eat.

Tldr: hunger won't always make a "picky" kid eat

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Thing is actually having a disability isn't just being picky. Even autists with sensory issues cannot eat certain food no matter how hungry they are, that's why you sometimes hear about kids with severe issues literally starving because they can't eat certain foods. Or they'll just puke the food up if you force them to eat it.

That's where the problem lies, Karen's think it's just pickiness when it's actually a trait of their kids disability. It's like saying kids who have allergies are just picky.

It's dumb when people publically post about how frog babies are special miracles, but it's also shitty when people publically trash their disabled child for something the kid has zero control over.

Most of the kids I have seen online where parents say they have “ARFID”, which is a relatively new label, are of normal weight or quite chubby. In fact they state being average or over- weight is most common with ARFID.

The major problem tends to be eating food of very low nutritional value - crisps, chips, carbs, salts, sugars - so their weight can be high. They foods they insist upon tend to have lots of empty calories. They may even suffer malnutrition due to empty calorie consumption, but their BMI is high. (Much like some of our death fats probably suffer from malnutrition)

It seems to be a modern problem since toddlers/kids didn’t have easy access to high fat, high sugar/salt foods decades ago for kids to develop fixation or have it skew their palette.

Empty calories don’t provide nutrition but they satiate hunger very well.

Spoiler: Powerlevel

I have ARFID (mild version) and if I eat certain foods/certain textures make me gag to the point of tears and near vomitting. I went away to camp one year for 3 weeks and I starved most of it due to the food. Being hungry didn't make me eat.

Tldr: hunger won't always make a "picky" kid eat

Starved? I mean that’s a pretty extreme term. You managed three weeks at the camp, we’re probably quite active, and survived so you were eating something. I’d believe you got hungry, but not starved. Did your parents freak out because you had dropped to a dangerously low weight when you returned home? I’m honestly curious.

I think the entire problem lies in kids brains getting fixated on the processed and high sugar foods that have become incredibly common in the past thirty years. It’s an addiction/compulsive behavior. Eating becomes more about an endorphin hit from sugar/carbs/salt than sustenance, and certain key foods that give that to them are fixated upon. Kids on the spectrum would be more likely than average kids to get fixated. The foods also tend to mess up one’s taste palette.

I’d be curious of any examples of people actually suffering near starvation from ARFID (not cases of malnutrition because they are only eating empty calories from their preferred foods).

Are their ARFID cases that don’t involve preferred foods that are highly processed or high in salt/fat/carbs. Are there cases where they preferred foods puree carrots, stewed cabbage and rye bread?

I mean intelligent, caring humans have restored to cannibalism throughout history when faced with actual starvation. The things people would eat during some of the worst sieges in WW2 make me retch to think about - but I’m sure if I was truly starving I would eat rats, soup with bugs and rotten potato peels too.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Spoiler: Powerlevel

I have ARFID (mild version) and if I eat certain foods/certain textures make me gag to the point of tears and near vomitting. I went away to camp one year for 3 weeks and I starved most of it due to the food. Being hungry didn't make me eat.

Tldr: hunger won't always make a "picky" kid eat

, but I hope nobody ever forced you to eat things just to teach you a lesson.

What I don't understand about these Warrior Mama types is how little many of them seem to actually understand about their child's condition and how it manifests. The autism moms are a great example. They think autism is this fantastic thing, fuck all haters, and it's abuse for therapists and doctors to suggest mitigation strategies to help a child for better into society, because that's changing who they are. When the kid has rages and destroys things or will only eat name brand Cheerios and literally nothing else, we are all supposed to look on with sympathy but never suggest that new behaviors can be learned with the right strategies.

They all want their kid to be like Rain Man, and when "low functioning" traits emerge, all of the focus is on how DIFFICULT it is to be a Mama Bear when the entire world is against your little autist. Never mind how much it sucks for a kid to have to live that way.

It's also really problematic how some of these parents try to elide lower functioning people in the name of advocacy. It seems like the parents of higher functioning kids use them as an example of why autism or Down syndrome are no big deal, and you're a shitlord if you think otherwise. It completely erases the people who are significantly affected by their disorders, and doubtlessly leads some parents to wonder why they aren't as strong and brave in the face of their own kid's diagnosis. It's like the self-diagnosed autism crowd bitching about behavioral interventions being a genocide, acting like they speak for all autistic people, when there are actual, diagnosed, "low functioning" autistic children who benefit from services to help them integrate socially. There are parents who have or adopt very young kids with Down syndrome who then scold biological mothers who consider abortion when their fetus receives a trisomy 21 diagnosis. Down syndrome isn't just smiling babies with big eyes or happy, affectionate toddlers. It is not uncommon for people with DS to have significant heart defects, which require invasive and painful surgery in infancy or childhood. More than half of adults with DS have Alzheimer type dementia by the sixth decade of life. Almost all people with the diagnosis will need significant support in adulthood. These parents may have only a few years of experience with raising a child with Down syndrome, but they think they have the authority to tell other people what to do. Maybe they should hold off until they've worried about their preteen or teenage daughter with DS being sexually exploited, or explained to their son why his peers can get their driver's licenses but he never will, or worried about who will care for their disabled child when they no longer can.
Don't act like you speak for all when you got the very best outcome.

 

[Android raptor]

Generally safe foods for kids with sensory issues are more bland and predictable in texture than anything else. Produce often can have unpredictable quantities, while all crackers or chicken nuggets have the same taste and texture. And yeah kids with legit issues will starve or vomit. Mistaking these issues for pickiness is a big problem.

Autism powerleveling but personally I can't do mayo or watermelon flavored joly ranchers. Just the smell can make me gag. I would probably vomit if forced to eat either.

I haven't really seen the warrior mom types acting like their autistic kids don't need any interventions, usually they're doing the exact opposite and insisting why putting their kid through blatantly abusive nonsense is valid and neccessary and constantly angsting over getting an autistic kid instead of the NT kid that was BASICALLY PROMISED. The act like victims of their kids disability and insist their kid most definitely will never accomplish anything because they can't write lengthy shitposts at age 2.

Seriously it is weirdly common to see warrior mom types whining about shit that's perfectly normal for any kid that age. Stuff like their toddler not being able to read or write or 5 year old pissed the bed or 7 year old made a mess on the floor playing with soap. Acting like their lives are so horrible and those things are due to their kids disability instead of just being perfectly normal (if annoying) kid things.

 

[just lurking]

Most of the kids I have seen online where parents say they have “ARFID”, which is a relatively new label, are of normal weight or quite chubby. In fact they state being average or over- weight is most common with ARFID.

The major problem tends to be eating food of very low nutritional value - crisps, chips, carbs, salts, sugars - so their weight can be high. They foods they insist upon tend to have lots of empty calories. They may even suffer malnutrition due to empty calorie consumption, but their BMI is high. (Much like some of our death fats probably suffer from malnutrition)

It seems to be a modern problem since toddlers/kids didn’t have easy access to high fat, high sugar/salt foods decades ago for kids to develop fixation or have it skew their palette.

Empty calories don’t provide nutrition but they satiate hunger very well.



Starved? I mean that’s a pretty extreme term. You managed three weeks at the camp, we’re probably quite active, and survived so you were eating something. I’d believe you got hungry, but not starved. Did your parents freak out because you had dropped to a dangerously low weight when you returned home? I’m honestly curious.

I think the entire problem lies in kids brains getting fixated on the processed and high sugar foods that have become incredibly common in the past thirty years. It’s an addiction/compulsive behavior. Eating becomes more about an endorphin hit from sugar/carbs/salt than sustenance, and certain key foods that give that to them are fixated upon. Kids on the spectrum would be more likely than average kids to get fixated. The foods also tend to mess up one’s taste palette.

I’d be curious of any examples of people actually suffering near starvation from ARFID (not cases of malnutrition because they are only eating empty calories from their preferred foods).

Are their ARFID cases that don’t involve preferred foods that are highly processed or high in salt/fat/carbs. Are there cases where they preferred foods puree carrots, stewed cabbage and rye bread?

I mean intelligent, caring humans have restored to cannibalism throughout history when faced with actual starvation. The things people would eat during some of the worst sieges in WW2 make me retch to think about - but I’m sure if I was truly starving I would eat rats, soup with bugs and rotten potato peels too.

Spoiler: Powerlevel

Starved might've been a bit of an exaggeration but I lost 20 pounds at least. I would eat a little of breakfast, an apple or a cookie for lunch and generally nothing for supper.
I was sailing so I was pretty active and we were marching everywhere.
My parents didnt really notice the weight loss but I did struggle to finish my meals at home because I was so used to surviving on very little

, but I hope nobody ever forced you to eat things just to teach you a lesson.

Spoiler: More Powerlevel

Was never forced to eat to "teach me a lesson" but my parents have forced me to eat foods that """"trigger"""" me. Plain rice is one that makes me gag and i struggle get it down. I can eat it in stuff like sushi tho

Lots of powerleveling here lmao

 

[mister butafuco]

Generally safe foods for kids with sensory issues are more bland and predictable in texture than anything else. Produce often can have unpredictable quantities, while all crackers or chicken nuggets have the same taste and texture. And yeah kids with legit issues will starve or vomit. Mistaking these issues for pickiness is a big problem.

I understand why autistic kids used to one brand of food will refuse to eat another if it tastes/looks a bit different. What I don't understand is that during lockdown in the UK we had all takeaways close and this resulted in a spate of parents of autistic kids claiming their children were going to starve to death without McDonalds. "It's all they'll eat!" WTF? How on earth do these families end up in a situation where the only 'safe' food their kids will eat is McDonalds' chicken nuggets? How many times did they take their kids through a drive-through for this behaviour to become set in stone? Did the parents not realise that there's a big difference between an autistic kid living on one type of cereal, satsumas and milk (as is the case for a kid I know) vs. living exclusively on one type of chicken nugget you can't even cook at home?

It's baffling.

 

[PotatoSalad4711]

Spoiler: Powerlevel

Starved might've been a bit of an exaggeration but I lost 20 pounds at least. I would eat a little of breakfast, an apple or a cookie for lunch and generally nothing for supper.
I was sailing so I was pretty active and we were marching everywhere.
My parents didnt really notice the weight loss but I did struggle to finish my meals at home because I was so used to surviving on very little

Spoiler: More Powerlevel

Was never forced to eat to "teach me a lesson" but my parents have forced me to eat foods that """"trigger"""" me. Plain rice is one that makes me gag and i struggle get it down. I can eat it in stuff like sushi tho

Lots of powerleveling here lmao

I think this was the whole point of what @MirnaMinkoff was saying. I’m not trying to be rude, but you were partaking in activities that would have caused you to faint if you didn’t have enough food. Add to that you lost 20 pounds and your parents didn’t notice. I’m sure it was uncomfortable for you; however, it might have been for the best.

I have also seen parents indulging their kids way too much because lil Johnny will scream if he doesn’t get his McDonald’s french fries. I’ve seen it personally with my friend with two autistic children. She takes a special trip to McD’s for fries, and then over to Burger King for nuggets because both kids want something different. Yes, I’m serious. It’s beyond bizarre at this point.

 

[booklover]

I think this was the whole point of what @MirnaMinkoff was saying. I’m not trying to be rude, but you were partaking in activities that would have caused you to faint if you didn’t have enough food. Add to that you lost 20 pounds and your parents didn’t notice. I’m sure it was uncomfortable for you; however, it might have been for the best.

I have also seen parents indulging their kids way too much because lil Johnny will scream if he doesn’t get his McDonald’s french fries. I’ve seen it personally with my friend with two autistic children. She takes a special trip to McD’s for fries, and then over to Burger King for nuggets because both kids want something different. Yes, I’m serious. It’s beyond bizarre at this point.

Again, talking about families with normal kids: I've personally known families where they claimed they didn't have time to cook, but they DID have time to take each individual family member to a different fast-food drive up. Really.

A woman on another website talks a lot about how the phrase "Just like Grandma used to make!" would be a mortal insult, because the one grandmother she knew did not know how to cook, and was not willing to take advice from anyone on how to do it right. Mostly, she overcooked EVERYTHING into a gray mush.

Here's a story about an extreme case of food allergies, and how Gerber accommodated a severely disabled boy who needed a discontinued product.

`Gerber Boy' Remembered As An Inspiration -- One Food And Love Sustained Him | The Seattle Times

Another story said that one factory devoted a day every year to making this for him.

 

[FluffyCat9000]

, but I hope nobody ever forced you to eat things just to teach you a lesson.

What I don't understand about these Warrior Mama types is how little many of them seem to actually understand about their child's condition and how it manifests. The autism moms are a great example. They think autism is this fantastic thing, fuck all haters, and it's abuse for therapists and doctors to suggest mitigation strategies to help a child for better into society, because that's changing who they are. When the kid has rages and destroys things or will only eat name brand Cheerios and literally nothing else, we are all supposed to look on with sympathy but never suggest that new behaviors can be learned with the right strategies.

They all want their kid to be like Rain Man, and when "low functioning" traits emerge, all of the focus is on how DIFFICULT it is to be a Mama Bear when the entire world is against your little autist. Never mind how much it sucks for a kid to have to live that way.

It's also really problematic how some of these parents try to elide lower functioning people in the name of advocacy. It seems like the parents of higher functioning kids use them as an example of why autism or Down syndrome are no big deal, and you're a shitlord if you think otherwise. It completely erases the people who are significantly affected by their disorders, and doubtlessly leads some parents to wonder why they aren't as strong and brave in the face of their own kid's diagnosis. It's like the self-diagnosed autism crowd bitching about behavioral interventions being a genocide, acting like they speak for all autistic people, when there are actual, diagnosed, "low functioning" autistic children who benefit from services to help them integrate socially. There are parents who have or adopt very young kids with Down syndrome who then scold biological mothers who consider abortion when their fetus receives a trisomy 21 diagnosis. Down syndrome isn't just smiling babies with big eyes or happy, affectionate toddlers. It is not uncommon for people with DS to have significant heart defects, which require invasive and painful surgery in infancy or childhood. More than half of adults with DS have Alzheimer type dementia by the sixth decade of life. Almost all people with the diagnosis will need significant support in adulthood. These parents may have only a few years of experience with raising a child with Down syndrome, but they think they have the authority to tell other people what to do. Maybe they should hold off until they've worried about their preteen or teenage daughter with DS being sexually exploited, or explained to their son why his peers can get their driver's licenses but he never will, or worried about who will care for their disabled child when they no longer can.
Don't act like you speak for all when you got the very best outcome.

Spoiler: minor Powerlevel

Its a shame but the reality is that the worst affected for both autism and Downs aren't really people you'll encounter in public. So of course people are skewed to the ones who are able to function at least a bit normally.

When I was a kid, a friends sister had very severe autism. By the age of 8 she couldn't walk very well, couldn't talk，had to still be hand fed puree, was fully incontinent, and was completely non communicative except for screaming and hitting/kicking/biting. Her parents and sisters had all sustained bloody injuries trying to assist her during meltdowns and it was obviously not a great situation for her siblings. Luckily the family were much better off financially than mine, cos they managed to send the healthy siblings off to boarding school to keep them from being psychologically damaged by their completely disabled sister. And the parents weren't neglectful, the sister got so many therapies and they poured in so much time trying to improve her communication and mood issues but it wasn't possible. That poor girl is about 25 now, she never improved on any metric, and now is full time in a facility because she was able to really injure her parents as they got older. They've dumped their entire retirement and savings into a trust so that the sister can stay with trained staff.

A family friend has a young son with Downs. Downs can really fuck up muscle tone, it's why they all have that similar kind of body shape and not great coordination. This poor little boy is 4 and his throat and tongue is so weak he can't swallow at all and can't speak. He has to be tube fed via a port in his stomach because he will choke if he eats. He can just barely manage a sippy cup of water to keep his mouth from drying out. He's recieving speech therapy but he can't make any sounds that are clear. It's to be seen how his cognitive standards are, they're now using sign language and flash cards for him to communicate. He could be anywhere on the spectrum of IQ for DS kids, it's just the physical barrier to communicate with him. Seems like he does understand a lot of what his parents say, he just can't speak back. But it's obvious that he's gonna have lifelong medical issues, especially if he develops any kind of airway issues because his tongue and throat are so weak.


This is why I roll my eyes so hard when people who really have never seen the worst outcomes start preaching about how "we shouldn't even call them disabled! They're special / unique / different!" Like fuck no. Even the least severe of thlse conditions are still disabled compared to normal society, they do need assistance. And the ones who are really badly affected, they get completely ignored because nobody wants to face the reality of it. For every feelgood story about a cashier at Walmart with downs, there are several who can't take care of their basic needs without help. For every autistic savant, there is a kid who can't interact with the world at all.

It's a sad thing that nobody wants to acknowledge because what's the solution? There isn't one. They need expensive full time care from trained staff and nobody has a good solution for how to manage that outside of the family bankrupting themselves to self fund it, or having a healthy member spend all their time to care for them

 

[Dysnomia]

There’s this great trick with picky eaters, let them miss meals and be surprised at how they come around to eating more than four things.

People have weird ideas about kids needing three meals a day or having to cater to weird requests or else, heaven forbid, they might not eat lunch or dinner!

People would be very surprised at what they would be willing to eat once actual, real hunger sets in. Real hunger, not that “I missed a meal” or “want a snack” shit. For a well nourished and over catered to child or adult that could take a few days before the real hunger drive kicks in and they are suddenly not picky at all, just really hungry.

I think every kid that refused a meal got told “starving child in xxx country would love to have that food” by their parents, but it was true. If you are truly hungry there is no picky eating problem.


Certainly smarter than her deadbeat groomer daddy Dan Lirette of Canada.

Spoiler

(He’s like betelgeuse. If you say his name enough times he sends DMCAs and sock puppets so I like to try and summon him when the opportunity presents itself. I know even a decade after his daughter died he was still attempting to take down blog posts or any mentions of him abandoning a teenager he impregnated with a anencephalic baby while cheating on his wife. I can only assume he obsessively Google’s himself because he continues try and be a fundie pastor and worm his way into churches. Fundies love mothers who carry hopeless babies to term so him dumping and abandoning Faith makes him the worst kind of monster (adulterous, groomer, pastor preying on his flock, abandoning a woman carrying his baby, a potato baby he utterly disregarded and didn’t even visit during her brief life) if the Christians he’s trying to fleece find out his sordid history he’s fucked.

As someone who was often told as a child to go back to sleep because there wasn't anything to eat today and once had a Christmas dinner consisting of a can of sloppy joe sauce split between me and my brother, kid you ain't gonna starve if you don't eat your dinner.

Also, stop introducing McDonald's, soda and other junk to infants.

I remember zombaby. I read the whole thread. Even if your kid is a potato you shouldn't just abandon them. After all, most of the time they are born because fundies won't abort. I hope Lirette gets his day. Wait until he meets his maker.

Spoiler: minor Powerlevel

Its a shame but the reality is that the worst affected for both autism and Downs aren't really people you'll encounter in public. So of course people are skewed to the ones who are able to function at least a bit normally.

When I was a kid, a friends sister had very severe autism. By the age of 8 she couldn't walk very well, couldn't talk，had to still be hand fed puree, was fully incontinent, and was completely non communicative except for screaming and hitting/kicking/biting. Her parents and sisters had all sustained bloody injuries trying to assist her during meltdowns and it was obviously not a great situation for her siblings. Luckily the family were much better off financially than mine, cos they managed to send the healthy siblings off to boarding school to keep them from being psychologically damaged by their completely disabled sister. And the parents weren't neglectful, the sister got so many therapies and they poured in so much time trying to improve her communication and mood issues but it wasn't possible. That poor girl is about 25 now, she never improved on any metric, and now is full time in a facility because she was able to really injure her parents as they got older. They've dumped their entire retirement and savings into a trust so that the sister can stay with trained staff.

A family friend has a young son with Downs. Downs can really fuck up muscle tone, it's why they all have that similar kind of body shape and not great coordination. This poor little boy is 4 and his throat and tongue is so weak he can't swallow at all and can't speak. He has to be tube fed via a port in his stomach because he will choke if he eats. He can just barely manage a sippy cup of water to keep his mouth from drying out. He's recieving speech therapy but he can't make any sounds that are clear. It's to be seen how his cognitive standards are, they're now using sign language and flash cards for him to communicate. He could be anywhere on the spectrum of IQ for DS kids, it's just the physical barrier to communicate with him. Seems like he does understand a lot of what his parents say, he just can't speak back. But it's obvious that he's gonna have lifelong medical issues, especially if he develops any kind of airway issues because his tongue and throat are so weak.


This is why I roll my eyes so hard when people who really have never seen the worst outcomes start preaching about how "we shouldn't even call them disabled! They're special / unique / different!" Like fuck no. Even the least severe of thlse conditions are still disabled compared to normal society, they do need assistance. And the ones who are really badly affected, they get completely ignored because nobody wants to face the reality of it. For every feelgood story about a cashier at Walmart with downs, there are several who can't take care of their basic needs without help. For every autistic savant, there is a kid who can't interact with the world at all.

It's a sad thing that nobody wants to acknowledge because what's the solution? There isn't one. They need expensive full time care from trained staff and nobody has a good solution for how to manage that outside of the family bankrupting themselves to self fund it, or having a healthy member spend all their time to care for them

Those that say research into that CRISPR stuff is going to lead to genocide usually bring up success cases where someone only needs mild to moderate care or can live on their own.

I'm reminded in a way of Deaf culture. We can't cure deafness because "muh culture". But it is a disability. Humans were meant to have a sense of hearing. And I would think most parents would want to restore their child's hearing if it were possible.

 

[Android raptor]

Idk, at least with autism you actually do see a lot of severe cases because the parents make a small fortune using their kid as a sob story online. Not all parents do that of course, but there are definitely people like Fathering Autism who've literally made a career out of filming/posting every moment of their severely autistic kids existence. Including plenty of stuff that's completely inappropriate to put publically on the internet like bathroom related stuff or their kid in various states of undress. These people often do shit that the kid clearly is upset by and is probably making their issues worse (like shoving a camera in their face or forcing them to drink bleach or other woo "treatment") but for some reason people will still support them and thank them for spreading "awareness".

I think for every sperg master race self diagnosed snowflake ignoring severely autistic people, you probably have about 10 parents exploiting their autistic kid for social media clout and acting like victims of their kids disability.

Related, I'll have to track the cap down but I recently saw caps of a post from an autism parents group where the mom was talking about wanting to chemically castrate her 17 year old son because he was masturbating in his room and she and his caregiver didn't like that because they'd installed cameras in his room (supposedly to monitor seizures). It was all kinds of horrifying.

EDIT: found it. Note that there are apparently ways to monitor seizures that don't involve 24/7 video surveillance. Supposedly the group this was posted in banned anyone took issue with what this parent was doing.

 

[AnOminous]

She takes a special trip to McD’s for fries, and then over to Burger King for nuggets because both kids want something different. Yes, I’m serious. It’s beyond bizarre at this point.

Is this that bizarre? I go to Arby's for their 2 for $5 sandwich specials and then McDonald's for fries and a dollar drink and it costs a couple bucks less and the fries are better.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

The thing with autism is you can have severe cases with 'normal' IQ and severe cases with very low IQs.

The normal IQ ones can at least be taught and try to figure shit out. I've met a lot of non-verbal kids that would automatically get pegged as severe as a result but they could communicate and learn tasks. The low IQ ones are fucking hopeless. They cannot learn.

IQ measuring is obviously hard when they can't talk, but you can tell by just 'can they learn anything?' If so, then their IQ is probably fine enough even with speech and communication deficits. I mean it here more as a sense of whether the individual is TEACHABLE.

 

[Android raptor]

Either way, a 17 year old jerking off in his room is something that's pretty normal and not normally an issue. The parent and caregivers are making it an issue by choosing to have cameras in his room and watch it. Shits creepy AF and tbh the parents probably need a visit from a windowless van.

I get that kids who are severely disabled jerking off in public can be an issue, but that's not what the post is about.

Honestly I feel like these kinds of parents often do start getting various levels of creepy and controlling with their kids. Not usually to this extreme but some do start giving off creepy vibes. I guess it's what happens when you give a narcissist an easy target like a disabled kid.

 

[chiikun]

Either way, a 17 year old jerking off in his room is something that's pretty normal and not normally an issue. The parent and caregivers are making it an issue by choosing to have cameras in his room and watch it. Shits creepy AF and tbh the parents probably need a visit from a windowless van.

I get that kids who are severely disabled jerking off in public can be an issue, but that's not what the post is about.

Honestly I feel like these kinds of parents often do start getting various levels of creepy and controlling with their kids. Not usually to this extreme but some do start giving off creepy vibes. I guess it's what happens when you give a narcissist an easy target like a disabled kid.

that’s how I was feeling about this, too. Autistic or not, if your kid is almost 18 and doing that when he’s on vid surveillance maybe that’s a sign you need to,,, look at options that give the kid more privacy and control. You can’t teach an autist to only do that “in private” when he has no privacy to begin with.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Honestly I feel like these kinds of parents often do start getting various levels of creepy and controlling with their kids. Not usually to this extreme but some do start giving off creepy vibes. I guess it's what happens when you give a narcissist an easy target like a disabled kid.

It's probably this idea that their kids are just babies and will always be innocent as babies.

 

[A Detachable Penis]

Either way, a 17 year old jerking off in his room is something that's pretty normal and not normally an issue. The parent and caregivers are making it an issue by choosing to have cameras in his room and watch it. Shits creepy AF and tbh the parents probably need a visit from a windowless van.

I get that kids who are severely disabled jerking off in public can be an issue, but that's not what the post is about.

Honestly I feel like these kinds of parents often do start getting various levels of creepy and controlling with their kids. Not usually to this extreme but some do start giving off creepy vibes. I guess it's what happens when you give a narcissist an easy target like a disabled kid.

For context, I knew of a teenage boy with fairly severe autism (not very functionally verbal with concurrent OCD), and they were able to teach him to do that shit in his bedroom.

 

[howmanypizzas69]

I’d be curious of any examples of people actually suffering near starvation from ARFID (not cases of malnutrition because they are only eating empty calories from their preferred foods).

Are their ARFID cases that don’t involve preferred foods that are highly processed or high in salt/fat/carbs. Are there cases where they preferred foods puree carrots, stewed cabbage and rye bread?

I mean intelligent, caring humans have restored to cannibalism throughout history when faced with actual starvation. The things people would eat during some of the worst sieges in WW2 make me retch to think about - but I’m sure if I was truly starving I would eat rats, soup with bugs and rotten potato peels too.

I used to work with kids, we had a 2nd grader who had ARFID related to what seemed to be an extreme fear of choking on food/not being able to swallow. He’d only eat a few kinds of puréed soups and mashed potatoes or mashed cauliflower. Eventually he’d only eat broth and had to get a NG tube for a while and do some sort of OT program for eating. His two siblings were pretty adventurous eaters, normal parents. I felt bad for all of them. The weird part was I assumed he’d had some sort of traumatic choking thing happen that triggered it but apparently not.