Harry Potter and why its world building is so boring? - Avada Kedavra vs M16

draggs said:
From all the stories about her life before she hit it big, she did everything regarding writing Harry Potter in a very disorganized way and never really got away from that after she hit it big. That lends itself to mile wide inch deep and make it up as you go along writing

She is a living example of persistence is the biggest factor in success, her other qualities are average at best but she's got persistence
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I would add that she does have a very strong ability to come up with memorable/iconic character names. As trite as that may sound, so many amateur or first time authors I've tried to read have character names that are pure cringe or just make me not care about the actual story and writing quality.
 
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wtfNeedSignUp said:
With the news of more Harry Potter media, I remembered the one thing that is kinda interesting about the Harry Potter sequel being that he has a fuck up son that gets into Slytherin. It's an interesting premise since we've come to expect heroes and their children to be perfect.
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You'd think that would be the next series, since it practically writes itself. The fuck-up son of Harry Potter trying to get out from under his Dad's shadow and carve his own path, while Harry uncovers some Wizard Deus Ex like conspiracy.
 
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Naamaleipuri said:
I mostly got so baffled of how the whole magic world got magic to stagnate.
You learn the basics from books and then yo.. JK Rowling isn't that smart, is she?
So we hear from the same magic from book to book.
I loved the series as a kid. And then. J.K Rowling happened... :story:
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Pre-British Indian militaries were garbage in the medieval era because their large elephant population enabled military doctrines to stagnate at the "Haha elephant go stomp" stage, so if you had a class of people who could solve every material problem with magical parlour tricks the same would likely occur, but that's giving Rowling too much credit.
 
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To be honest, the only thing I liked about J.K Rowlings, Harry Poofter was the ensuing shitshow with the author of the Russian Tanja Grotter novels.
That literally made me laugh my ass of back in the days.
The Tanja Grotter series even had its own spinoff series named Methodius Buslaev. In one book she even fights a guy named Hurry Pooper (no, I shit you not)
The Tanja Grotter book series had 14 books and said spinoff series, but sadly never made it to the west because Time Warner and the Scottish Hag sued them.
 
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Naamaleipuri said:
The setting is about on par with a generic Japanese high school anime.
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That’s kinda what it is - the parts that are actually interesting about Hogwarts is how it’s different from a normal student’s life, the wish-fulfillment aspects. Just like how no one cares how well the Lucky Star girls do in school, except where it’s relevant as a setup to a joke.

My childhood books were the Redwall series, which had more world-building, for sure. But look at the feast scenes - every book in that series had like 3 feasts and every single one was the same - 3 pages of lists of every single dish and taste. Because that’s the wish-fulfillment “money shot” of that series.
 
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Gryffindor is Twitter, Slytherin is 4chan, Ravenclaw is Reddit, and Hufflepuff is Tumblr.

Kiwi Farms are the jew goblins that operate the banks

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TurkishOreo said:
Probably since none have ever thought to keep the Avada setting as the standard wand swinging.

Like do the Leviosa motion once and your wand will always just levitate shit instead of having to spell&motion it again.


Animagus form is probably not coded into the map.

Did the map ever show random animals or just people?

It would also make the animagus registration pointless since Harry could've just looked at the map for that journalist to know how she gets the info.
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Good thought, but they are explicitly on the map. Harry gets freaked out seeing someone coming straight at him and then... nothing. It was Peter whatshisface as a rat.

As for the books? They're fun middle school books. There's nothing wrong with books just being entertaining. I mean... game of thrones was better planned, bur doesn't really contribute more, but it doesn't have to. There's room in the world for documentaries and popcorn flicks. Harry Potter is more on the popcorn side. And that's okay. But you shouldn't be basing your life on it.
 
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Autumnal Equinox said:
Stephen King said it best. He was referring to Stephanie Meyer at the time, but it can apply to Rowling as well.

"She can't write worth a darn."

Like others have said also, the books are decent for 10-12 year olds, the intended audience who don't give a fuck about Tolkien deep world building. The books were intended for little kids, not autistic NEETS in their 40s who obsess over children's literature and haven't read anything else of value or substance to compare it to.
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Given that Stephen King references Harry Potter in the Dark Tower series, I'll bet that Stephen King wouldn't refer to Rowling in that way.
 
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I forget it if I mentioned it here or where, but I saw the umpteenth jillion car with a Deathly Hallows logo on the back, and I just keep seeing the AA logo.
 
The major gripe I have with Rowling's works, is, that she cannot write a romantic subplot to save her life. Also, knowing the fact that she was in and out of abusive and dysfunctional relationships also shows in her work, with a lot of the couples being very creepy and frazzled to each other. That comes as more of a cry for help than "UWU Twue Wuv Fowevah!"

I mean, they could cut out the whole "romantic" melodrama subplots from the series, and it would not affect the story at all. In fact, it would make things better.

Also, I dunno about kids today, but when I was little, I didn't give a shit about romantic soap opera melodrama subplots in kiddie media. That stuff always bored me as a kid. I preferred action, comedy, peril and (intentional) creepiness over soap opera melodrama bull shit.
 
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Baguette Child said:
I defy anyone to try and convince me that Goosebumps isn't a more quality book series than Harry Fucking Potter. Goosebumps was the shit when I was a kid and if I am ever cursed to have demonspawn of my own I sure as fuck would be more likely to give them a boxed set of Goosebumps than Harry Potter. Hands down.
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Pretty much anything past the very very early first run holds up at all and only then as the most simplistic of childhood horror
 
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In the early books (the first three and a half), Rowling was quite effective at building plot and establishing character. The world building only served as ornamentation, which was the correct choice given the target readers. It was the later shift in tone and subject matter toward darker territory that she couldn’t handle. All of a sudden, every other literary element was sacrificed in the name of complex world building, which wasn’t the strength of her writing in the first place.

Personally, I think world building as a literary merit is vastly overrated, and the modern obsession with it has produced a culture that excuses poor writing if the setting is interesting enough for a fandom to be built around it. It’s the province of many hacks, Tolkien included. At least Lewis was a true writer.
 
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It's likely the only fiction series they've read and when compared to average TV writing it's better.
 
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