Megathread Non-binary genders / Enbies - When Male and Female Aren't Special Enough

NoReturn said:
If anything, they reinforce them because their whole "gender identity" is caught up in the superficial trappings of what it means to be male or female.
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Yeah pretty much any one I've ever seen is just a badly dressed member of their actual gender or a trasvestite.
also their tendancy try to be hip and quirky tends to make them insufferable since 90% of the humans are remarkably mundaine so it just comes across as obnoxious, tedious and disengenious.
 
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Going through so many mental gymnastics just to avoid being called a girly girl.
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DoubleD said:
Woman. It is almost always FTMs who draw themselves as pedo bait boy children.

In fact, here's an artist (also on Tumblr) who draws herself the exact same way.
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I thought so, but what she's saying is so nonsensical that I wasn't sure if it was a man who wanted to be feminine or a woman who hated herself for wanting to be feminine. But now I'm seeing the part where she refers to herself as a trans guy so it makes more sense now.
 
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The more I look into these people, the more I'm getting a sense that they don't sincerely think they're right and feel confident about it. I think deep down they know this is all complete bullshit that's made up. I think that's why they're so aggressive and angry when people call them out on it because they know the perpetrators are right and it's not something to really live by or immerse yourself in. Maybe this is why furries, roleplayers, bronies, and LGBT members are so hostile; they have a shameful awareness that their fanbases and cliques are total shitholes and their lifestyles are unhealthy and unfulfilling, but they're too afraid to breakaway because they lose their edge and outlet for them to gain more attention. So rather than breakaway from those groups and either form their own small, limited cliques, or ride solo without any kind of label, they have to be apart of something larger because that's what the media is talking about.

There was a time back when I was about 18 or 19 (I'm 25 now) and I used to play games like SL, FFXIV, and other stuff. I was also apart of some cliques that landed me in kind of hot water with my parents, but that was a long time ago. Mainly because they were wastes of time and they made me look like a turbo-nerd. The main reason I was swaggering around the LGBT label was because I loved the media attention and a lot of people would praise and commend my 'bravery'. However, the internet of the late 2010's weren't very receptive to these labels I was swaggering around and this gave me intense anxiety. 2014-2017 had to have been the worst years of my life because it was non-stop depression and anxiety because I thought mean comments and people making them were going to kill me. I thought republicans and conservatives were the devil incarnate because people said "kill all fags" in a BK pride commercial. This also warped my impression on the rest of the world because I thought everyone was out to get me. At the same time I was angry and wanted to get back at these people. While all this was happening I was living with my parents and I didn't really have a sustainable job or any kind of career prospect because I had no clue what I wanted to do. In fact I hated working and thought my parents were selfish bigoted shitheads who just wanted to control my life. My dad would constantly insult me because I wouldn't help out around the house enough or I just sat around playing video games all day when I should've been going to school.

Fast forward to today and I don't really identify with any cliques at all. LGBT is kind of a past thing I scoff at because it is a shithole and it's not worth identifying with because even if I angle slightly right they'll strangle me. I have a pretty stable job and I can pay for school and pay my rent and bills no problem. All that depression and anxiety I felt back in those years is gone. Nowadays I don't even think of myself and if someone asks me "how I'm doing?" or "how's work going?" I don't know how to answer it. Work pays so I guess good? I don't really have time to play video games like I used to, but that's fine with me because I actually feel like I'm making progress towards my planned out career (accounting).

Why do I bring this up? Because I wonder if that's the same thing these people are going through. They have way too much time on their hands like I did during those years. Everything I described in the first paragraph I really have to wonder if that's why nonbinary or LGBT labels are so popular; boredom and lack of any kind of fulfillment.
 
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I always thought trenders are closet (or out and proud) pedos. They want to be called "Gay BOY" or "Gay GIRL" not a gay man or lesbian woman. and talk about how they beat off or flick the bean over "gay and trans KIDS uwu" to show off just how special they think they are, so instead of their shady van being spray-painted with "free candy" it says "safe space for gay and trans kids"
 
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goma said:
NB people chronically don't want to be real adults. They're always "boys" or "girls" or "kids", which is pretty creepy. Why does NB so often mean neutered, asexual, non-adult?
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According to Abigail Shrier in her book Irreversible Damage, a lot of these people look at porn at a very young age, get a warped idea of what sex is like from it, and start to think “if that’s how people have sex then I don’t want that” thus the “soft cute boy” identification begins as an opt-out from being perceived as a sexual object. And it’s not just porn anymore - as the culture becomes more open about sex, popular culture becomes more sexualised and these same tropes and stereotypes end up in mainstream music, films etc., young people who take interest in this mainstream stuff emulate it, and those who don’t begin to think there’s something wrong with them.

Mostly applies to the female ones (who are the subject of Shrier’s book), understandable as women in porn often aren’t portrayed favourably, though I can also see a dorky awkward teenage boy being unable to relate to mainstream portrayals, not realising it isn’t accurate to reality, and taking on a non binary identity as a way to escape those expectations just as a girl would.
 
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DoubleD said:
Woman. It is almost always FTMs who draw themselves as pedo bait boy children.

In fact, here's an artist (also on Tumblr) who draws herself the exact same way.
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Emperor Julian said:
Most women don't get to look like a hawt anime chick so why do they presume that's an option for them?
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I wonder if part of it too is the idea of this unattainable "standard". If you want to look like an anime girl, but you're an actual human, then that hurts because your ideal self is literally unattainable (because you're human). If, however, you say you're "nonbinary" or a "man" then there's now a buffer. It's not that you can't attain that standard because you're a human female, instead you can say "Oh well I'm actually a dude, so it's ok if I can't be this anime chick, I accept that my dudeliness is the limiting factor here."
 
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Longcat said:
According to Abigail Shrier in her book Irreversible Damage, a lot of these people look at porn at a very young age, get a warped idea of what sex is like from it, and start to think “if that’s how people have sex then I don’t want that” thus the “soft cute boy” identification begins as an opt-out from being perceived as a sexual object. And it’s not just porn anymore - as the culture becomes more open about sex, popular culture becomes more sexualised and these same tropes and stereotypes end up in mainstream music, films etc., young people who take interest in this mainstream stuff emulate it, and those who don’t begin to think there’s something wrong with them.

Mostly applies to the female ones (who are the subject of Shrier’s book), understandable as women in porn often aren’t portrayed favourably, though I can also see a dorky awkward teenage boy being unable to relate to mainstream portrayals, not realising it isn’t accurate to reality, and taking on a non binary identity as a way to escape those expectations just as a girl would.
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Knowing that a lot of these NB types tend to avoid porn altogether (see: anti-shipping culture), I don't think that's always the case. But I can see how in entertainment women aren't always depicted positively, and how they might conflate relating to a character of a different character with wanting to be that gender altogether.
 
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