MCU Television and Animation Series on Disney + - WandaVision, FATWS, Loki, etc

[Stab You in the Back]

I'm glad I missed all these autistic speculations by binging the show after the finale.

I speculated before the premiere that they were two possible outcomes of this series: 1) Wanda gets over the loss of Vision; or 2) Wanda somehow resurrects Vision. Both wound up happening. However, neither felt like a cop-out, so I don't really have any issue with the show deciding to have its cake and eating it, too.

My biggest fear going into the series is that it would be smug and sneering, like Tom King's Vision miniseries, which also placed the Vision in a suburban pastiche. But the show isn't smug. Rather, it embraces its concept with sincerity, and brings us plenty of moments of levity without ever undercutting the stakes or tension (unlike post-GotG Marvel films like Thor Ragnarok).

The only time I rolled my eyes was during the walkthrough of Wanda's life with Agatha. It felt like lazy pop psychology. At one point I expected the characters to pop up and be all

Rambo still did this because she's a dumb bitch, but whatever.

Overall, a good series. Of all the Marvel shows I'd put it right under Daredevil S1. Only downside was that the first three episodes were boring. After episode 3, though, things really picked up and never slowed down.

edit: Corniest part of the episode is when Rambo stepped in-between Wanda's kids and all the bullets that were fired at the kids somehow wound up hitting her center mass. Dem some magic black-seeking bullets.

 

[cactus]

The only time I rolled my eyes was during the walkthrough of Wanda's life with Agatha. It felt like lazy pop psychology. At one point I expected the characters to pop up and be all

I agree, especially since they told us this in AoU (minus Wanda's love for sitcoms). I didn't think we needed to see why the bomb didn't go off, but the scene at the Hydra base was at least new information and Wanda surviving it was enough (anyone thinking Wanda protected Pietro from the power of the Mind Stone is dumb, he was probably predisposed to getting powers too, but this was a theory going around a little bit on Reddit).

 

[starborn427614]

edit: Corniest part of the episode is when Rambo stepped in-between Wanda's kids and all the bullets that were fired at the kids somehow wound up hitting her center mass. Dem some magic black-seeking bullets.

Truly, Hayward was the most powerful witch in Westview that day.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Monica Rambo's actress has a nice big booty on her, so I will take her Gurl Power over Captain Marvel bullshit.

Disappointed that they just were cockteasing with X-Men Quicksilver. Also I was very annoyed at how Agnes, this super OG Witch tells Wanda that her power is that she can absord and steal your magic, like if that's your superpower why wouldn't you keep that secret? Just all out dumb villian writing.

Also I don't get Wanda at the end wanting to try to find her imaginary kids again, feels like it pretty much kills the whole point of the series which was that a person needs to accept loss and not live in fantasy. So I guess ultimately Wanda is going to fuck up the planet and reality and didn't learn shit from this event? I don't know I'll watch anything if it has Elizabeth Olsen wearing various costumes.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Also I don't get Wanda at the end wanting to try to find her imaginary kids again, feels like it pretty much kills the whole point of the series which was that a person needs to accept loss and not live in fantasy. So I guess ultimately Wanda is going to fuck up the planet and reality and didn't learn shit from this event? I don't know I'll watch anything if it has Elizabeth Olsen wearing various costumes.

Rather sure thats hinting at the whole multiverse thing. In the comics also she dealt REALLY badly with her children being "disappeared " leading to delusions about them before she went REALLY hex insane. I am really hoping she is used well in Dr. Strange 2 and not as some super villian to be destroyed.

 

[Ravana]

I got around to watching the series now that it ended. I hope Darcy will return and she'll trip and fall into a woodchipper. What's up with Monica's powers? I thought she was the original Captain Marvel or something.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

I got around to watching the series now that it ended. I hope Darcy will return and she'll trip and fall into a woodchipper. What's up with Monica's powers? I thought she was the original Captain Marvel or something.

Yep, they'll never use this classic costume tho

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

She goin to space to beat up Wamen Powah Larson

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Also I was very annoyed at how Agnes, this super OG Witch tells Wanda that her power is that she can absord and steal your magic, like if that's your superpower why wouldn't you keep that secret? Just all out dumb villian writing.

Agatha needed to learn how Wanda did the spell on Westview. Simply draining Wanda's raw and unrefined magic until she died wasn't going to teach Agatha anything. Throughout the beginning of the series, Agatha played along with Wanda's spell trying to discreetly gather information, and when that didn't work, that's when she went full villain.

 

[The Valeyard]

Also I don't get Wanda at the end wanting to try to find her imaginary kids again, feels like it pretty much kills the whole point of the series which was that a person needs to accept loss and not live in fantasy. So I guess ultimately Wanda is going to fuck up the planet and reality and didn't learn shit from this event?

>a female character learning something in the M-She-U

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

What uh, happened to Vision? The white version was literally the corpse of Vision right? The one inside the simulation was just thunked up by Wanda, who somehow had the ability to force the creation of a mindstone-powered creature into real life, granted in limited form?

So not only did the military manage to bring Vision back to life without a power stone, but Wanda managed to unlock his memories using a thunked-up Vision as well? I have a feeling this is gonna be a throw-away explanation in future media.

 

[Ravana]

I was hoping he’d have an Ultron relapse at some point but the fight ending with two computers thinking at each other was neat

 

[Nick Obre]

What uh, happened to Vision? The white version was literally the corpse of Vision right? The one inside the simulation was just thunked up by Wanda, who somehow had the ability to force the creation of a mindstone-powered creature into real life, granted in limited form?

So not only did the military manage to bring Vision back to life without a power stone, but Wanda managed to unlock his memories using a thunked-up Vision as well? I have a feeling this is gonna be a throw-away explanation in future media.

SWORD managed to put him together (apparently a whole bunch of times) but couldn't activate him, no matter what power source they used. They succeeded with Wanda's residual magic energy from the drone she shot down. That was the white Vision.

Wanda did create a Vision out of her grief, and a Mind Stone with him, but neither could exist outside of the are of effect of the spell.
Fake Vision did unlock white Vision's access to all the data in his hard drive.

But on the "Wanda somehow had the ability for force the creation of a mindstone-powered creature into real life" point, they addressed that. She's the Scarlet Witch, who has the power to use Chaos Magic to create things spontaneously. So I don't think more explanations will be needed.

 

[SamTheEagle]

"They'll never know what you sacrificed for them."
...her tulpas?

 

[Chilson]

"They'll never know what you sacrificed for them."
...her tulpas?

I just..I am just so confused what she sacrificed?? Its like praising a child for cleaning up the mess they caused.

 

[starborn427614]

What uh, happened to Vision? The white version was literally the corpse of Vision right? The one inside the simulation was just thunked up by Wanda, who somehow had the ability to force the creation of a mindstone-powered creature into real life, granted in limited form?

So not only did the military manage to bring Vision back to life without a power stone, but Wanda managed to unlock his memories using a thunked-up Vision as well? I have a feeling this is gonna be a throw-away explanation in future media.

They used the energy of the mind stone that was in the missile Wanda flung back at them to do it. Guess that's as good an explanation as we're going to get. The rest was just data locked away that Hex!Vision essentially had the key for.

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Monica's "I would have done the same." line is even worse than the sacrifice one.

It doesn't make Wanda seem sympathetic, it just makes Monica seem like a horrible person.
"I, too, would have imprisoned and mentally tortured an entire town because I miss my mommy."

 

[The Valeyard]

I just..I am just so confused what she sacrificed?? Its like praising a child for cleaning up the mess they caused.

And she's going to cause a much larger mess by tearing apart the Multiverse trying to bring Tommy and Billy back.

 

[starborn427614]

And she's going to cause a much larger mess by tearing apart the Multiverse trying to bring Tommy and Billy back.

And that's why she's the villain in Strange 2. I expect some other force to pop up too, maybe Chthon since his head tendril things surround the picture of the Scarlet Witch in the Darkhold.

 

[Oats12345]

So how does everyone feel about Falcan and winter Soldier coming upon us soon.