The finale wasn't bad for me. I was hoping it would give me a clear path for Wanda hero or villain. The second post ending scene gives me hints of anti-villain. I am happy marvel isn't just killing off villains anymore and leaves that we could see Agatha again.
I only expected a solid MCU entry that fleshed out Wanda and Vision, and I think it mostly delivered on that end. The pacing, plotting, and overall writing could have been better but it was decent by MCU standards I guess.
I am enjoying some schadenfreude from:
a) people who expected this to introduce mutants and/or hint that Magneto was Wanda's real father. (they were never going to do that in a Wanda mini series)
b) people that are now trying to act like they didn't spend the last two months obsessively picking at every detail, scene, and easter egg trying to figure out the ~*true plot*~ of the show, thinking it was all going to be super cerebral and twisty. It's reminding me of Lost, "I- I don't really care about the mysteries... it was all about the characters!"
I only expected a solid MCU entry that fleshed out Wanda and Vision, and I think it mostly delivered on that end. The pacing, plotting, and overall writing could have been better but it was decent by MCU standards I guess.
I am enjoying some schadenfreude from:
a) people who expected this to introduce mutants and/or hint that Magneto was Wanda's real father. (they were never going to do that in a Wanda mini series)
b) people that are now trying to act like they didn't spend the last two months obsessively picking at every detail, scene, and easter egg trying to figure out the ~*true plot*~ of the show, thinking it was all going to be super cerebral and twisty. It's reminding me of Lost, "I- I don't really care about the mysteries... it was all about the characters!"
I was thinking, if this had nothing to do with Monica or Vision, this series would be wholly skippable, since Wanda's stuff would be explained away in a movie.
The more I think about it, the more Monica's "They'll never know what you sacrificed for them," bullshit pisses me off.
That must be really fucking easy for you to be so cavalier and forgiving about the whole thing, when the worst you had to go through was about 20 minutes of living in I Love Lucy *voluntarily*, a shitty looking 70's makeover, and getting fucking superpowers to boot out of the whole thing. Try telling that poor woman who had to pretend to hang laundry on a line over and over again, for presumably days/weeks on end, how amazing Wanda is for what she "sacrificed".
Go fuck yourself bitch, you belong with Captain Marvel, you're as utterly unlikable as she is.
On a side note, the last episode made me finally like Jimmy Woo.
Also I finally figured out what I remembered him from (aside from Antman obviously.)
Kat Dennings (I don't care what her character's name is) still sucks though.
I can see alot of regular viewers being kind of ignored becuase this show is only one season and for more answers they have to wait for a movie that who knows when it will come out now with dates keep changing.
At least it shows us that Wanda is definitely a much better lead in terms of female protagonists than Carol or any of the upcoming IPs they're trying to push.
Paul is a troll. “They were guessing people like Benedict Cumberbatch or Patrick Stewart, I was thinking, 'God, that's a good idea', they're gonna be so disappointed when they find out it's me.”
Anyway I noticed in the second postcredit scene that Wanda was doing a callback to Dr Strange in that they were astral projecting themselves
The more I think about it, the more Monica's "They'll never know what you sacrificed for them," bullshit pisses me off.
That must be really fucking easy for you to be so cavalier and forgiving about the whole thing, when the worst you had to go through was about 20 minutes of living in I Love Lucy *voluntarily*, a shitty looking 70's makeover, and getting fucking superpowers to boot out of the whole thing. Try telling that poor woman who had to pretend to hang laundry on a line over and over again, for presumably days/weeks on end, how amazing Wanda is for what she "sacrificed".
Go fuck yourself bitch, you belong with Captain Marvel, you're as utterly unlikable as she is.
Wanda goes there too. She willingly fucked those people's minds because she was grieving. She had enough awareness to know what she was doing, she chose not to stop. Zemo also lost everybody, does he get a pass too? Didn't Capt. get in a lot of trouble trying to protect Bucky despite Bucky wasn't himself?
Wanda goes there too. She willingly fucked those people's minds because she was grieving. She had enough awareness to know what she was doing, she chose not to stop. Zemo also lost everybody, does he get a pass too? Didn't Capt. get in a lot of trouble trying to protect Bucky despite Bucky wasn't himself?
I still think that mutants are going to happen in the MCU eventually ... I just didn't think it would specifically happen in this show. This series did just enough to get fans talking about mutants, given the true origin of Wanda's powers being revealed in episode 8. If people were expecting for Magneto or the X-Men to just show up in the final episode, then they are stupid.
Also, once Agatha Harkness was revealed in the show, I became well aware that neither Mephisto or Nightmare would be introduced in this show. Not enough time to properly bring them in at that point, quite frankly. And if one of them had shown up in the very final episode to merely end the series on the stereotypical "Good guy must stop bad guy from ending the world" trope, then it would have ruined everything the show had built up and had focused on. It would have also undermined Agatha's status as the big baddie of the series, and she's turned out being one of the stronger MCU villains. If people were expecting for Mephisto or Nightmare to just show up in the final episode, then they are stupid.
The only big cameo I was really expecting with this series was Doctor Strange. No appearance from him, but they most certainly did more than enough to set up Doctor Strange 2 (which is the only MCU movie at this point that I am actively hyped for).
- Loved that Vision and the kids vanished at the end. No super duper happy and cheap ending, which would have ruined the whole show if you ask me. It needed to have an ending where Wanda accepted reality, as harsh as it was.
- Loved that Wanda clearly hasn't gotten away with anything, even if it was all an accident. The logical way to end the series would be for Wanda to go into hiding, and that's exactly what happened. Good.
- Loved that Agatha Harkness was not killed! I want her back ... Especially if she appears in Doctor Strange 2, under Sam Raimi's direction. Give me all of the spooky Christmas HAM, Raimi!
- Loved that Wanda didn't win by just "overpowering" Agatha. I was about to get really disappointed in their final battle; I could just feel the moment where Agatha couldn't absorb any more of Wanda's power because "she's just that powerful u guise," but nope-- that didn't happen, thank god. It was a cool shoutout to the comics that Wanda beats Agatha because she had learned a spell from Agatha and not because she overpowered her. Yay, some effort in writing. We like to see it!
-White Vision was underutilized. He showed up in the Hex, and made a big impression by trying to crush Wanda's head (a good moment in of itself). Then, we see the "Double Vision" (by Foreigner) fight, then it ends with some philosophical jargon that isn't nearly as impressive as Vision's dialogue in Age of Ultron (for example), and then White Vision just fucks off. Eh. Fell kind of flat to me. I would have preferred for this episode to be longer, and to have Wanda have more of an emotional confrontation with White Vision first, or to have both Wanda and "fake Vision" confront White Vision together.
-"They'll never know what you sacrificed" is a dumb line, and it really made me turn quite a bit sour on Monica. It was established in the very same episode that the people of Westview experienced Wanda's nightmares for days on end. Pretty sure those people have an insight to what Wanda has gone through, and even then, those people have every right to be terrified of Wanda. Those people were literally tortured by Wanda, even if it was an accident; they went through lots of trauma themselves! I'm so glad that it appeared the authorities didn't have the same dumb sentiments that Monica Rambeau had; there was seriously no other way to end the series other than for Wanda to run away in hiding.
Overall, a fitting and satisfying ending to a show that I've thoroughly enjoyed. My investment in the MCU has dwindled considerably post-Endgame. I had no expectations for this series whatsoever and felt zero hype ... But it's turned out being one of my favorite MCU projects altogether, and Scarlet Witch has easily cemented herself as one of my favorite MCU characters now.
Also, give me all of Elizabeth Olsen's wardrobe from this series ... Especially the 1950's dinner party dress, the 1970's dress, and the 1980's denim suspender outfit. Please and thank you!
-White Vision was underutilized. He showed up in the Hex, and made a big impression by trying to crush Wanda's head (a good moment in of itself). Then, we see the "Double Vision" (by Foreigner) fight, then it ends with some philosophical jargon that isn't nearly as impressive as Vision's dialogue in Age of Ultron (for example), and then White Vision just fucks off. Eh. Fell kind of flat to me. I would have preferred for this episode to be longer, and to have Wanda have more of an emotional confrontation with White Vision first, or to have both Wanda and "fake Vision" confront White Vision together.
-"They'll never know what you sacrificed" is a dumb line, and it really made me turn quite a bit sour on Monica. It was established in the very same episode that the people of Westview experienced Wanda's nightmares for days on end. Pretty sure those people have an insight to what Wanda has gone through, and even then, those people have every right to be terrified of Wanda. Those people were literally tortured by Wanda, even if it was an accident; they went through lots of trauma themselves! I'm so glad that it appeared the authorities didn't have the same dumb sentiments that Monica Rambeau had; there was seriously no other way to end the series other than for Wanda to run away in hiding.
Yea that was pretty stupid line. I like though that her exile is a self-exile. I'm hoping Dr Strange 2 we learn more about it and see her actually become less of a danger. Though in the comics she never quite was ever less of a danger.
Monica is a bleeding heart kind of hero so that line kind of washed over me, but I get why it would annoy people. Wanda having to live alone was the punishment she deserved for hurting those people and now she can atone...or go further down the hell hole.
Looking back at it now, I don't actually know why everyone thought they'd introduce mutants in this show. There were zero hints or references made towards them. At best you can claim the casting of Peters is a nod towards mutants existing... in another universe. But in the one we're watching? Nothing. I can understand Mephistofags thinking he'd turn up since there were those devil references and all + what happens in the comics to the twins, but when it became obvious the hex was 100% Wanda's doing and Agatha was there to fuck shit up, the hope of seeing him should've died.
Looking back at it now, I don't actually know why everyone thought they'd introduce mutants in this show. There were zero hints or references made towards them. At best you can claim the casting of Evans is a nod towards mutants existing... in another universe. But in the one we're watching? Nothing. I can understand Mephistofags thinking he'd turn up since there were those devil references and all + what happens in the comics to the twins, but when it became obvious the hex was 100% Wanda's doing and Agatha was there to fuck shit up, the hope of seeing him should've died.
Looking back at it now, I don't actually know why everyone thought they'd introduce mutants in this show. There were zero hints or references made towards them. At best you can claim the casting of Peters is a nod towards mutants existing... in another universe. But in the one we're watching? Nothing. I can understand Mephistofags thinking he'd turn up since there were those devil references and all + what happens in the comics to the twins, but when it became obvious the hex was 100% Wanda's doing and Agatha was there to fuck shit up, the hope of seeing him should've died.
Having the mutants created en masse via witch magic would have been a Battle of NYC degree of world-shifting consequences within that universe, and I didn't see that happening so suddenly given Fiege's "deliberately planned" ideas. An entire race of people being discovered from out of nowhere, even if it was otherwise normal people that would have had established lives and relationships, would be a hell of a shift within that universe. "Oh I guess some people are like super powered for no real reason or something, ok cool..." being introduced in a 9 part mini-series was a lot to ask in general.
Having the mutants created en masse via witch magic would have been a Battle of NYC degree of world-shifting consequences within that universe, and I didn't see that happening so suddenly given Fiege's "deliberately planned" ideas. An entire race of people being discovered from out of nowhere, even if it was otherwise normal people that would have had established lives and relationships, would be a hell of a shift within that universe. "Oh I guess some people are like super powered for no real reason or something, ok cool..." being introduced in a 9 part mini-series was a lot to ask in general.
Looking back at it now, I don't actually know why everyone thought they'd introduce mutants in this show. There were zero hints or references made towards them.
