Lolcow Melinda Leigh Scott & Marshall Castersen - Sue-happy couple. Flat earth conspiracists. Pretending to be Jewish. Believe Kiwi Farms is protected by the Masonic Order. 0-6 on lawsuits. Marshall is dead.

[TamarYaelBatYah]

No one here knows one another outside of the forum.

I have proof demonstrating otherwise

HOWEVER...we have one ideology in common that ties us to you, Melinda Scott: The First Amendment!

Well, firstly, there is some inaccuracy here. Not all KF users are citizens or legal residents of the USA. So those of you KF loyal fan base, users and trolls who are not citizens or legal residents of the USA have no rights under the US Constitution.

You have, since you've filed, been trying to oppress every poster's ability to freely mock a goofy person on the Internet.

Firstly, there's a lot more going on here than people simply expressing their opinion about me.

Secondly, the First Amendment does not grant anyone the right to post content on the internet about anyone unless they are "the press". KF is not "the press". Or do you claim to be journalists?

The First Amendment protects six things: (1) religious beliefs (2) religious practices (3) right to assemble (4) freedom of the press (printed words) (5) freedom of speech and (6) protesting the government's decisions

The internet is not "speech" because it's written, not audio.

Christ's disciples, you mean. Also Christ's disciples used passover to celebrate the resurrection. Easter as we know it is not really mentioned until the 2nd century, and had nothing to do with Paul.


Apostles, Disciples, Followers, Believers. Melinda, your argument here is blatantly fishing for a certain answer but even that certain answer is irrelevant. Luther did not consider himself a protestant or a Lutheran as soon as he pinned his complaints to the door. I know you want to fight tooth and nail against being called a Christian, but the fact of the matter remains, Christian is a word with a definition describing a certain set of people. That definition is "People who believe Jesus/ Yeshua/ Yeshy the Meshy was the Messiah" that's it. You are a Christian. Be mad about it.

So basically you can't answer the question

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Like the proverbial dog that returns to its vomit you keep coming back to this factoid. If you had any integrity you would have supplied a url so that the reader can verify what you are claiming. You didn't even mention the source. Why not just say that another lolcow gave you a link to bellingcat.com? It's because it is an unsubstantiated claim, right?

Lindsay Souvannarath is a deranged Thai fetishizer of Nazism for the sake of being transgressive. She isn't a "white supremacist", she self-described her political beliefs as nihilistic. The planned mass shooting of random people had nothing to do with race and it had nothing to do with KF. Her and her co-conspirator--like you--are mentally ill.

The SPLC had nothing negative to say about KF and they linked to Souvannarath's thread. "Internet sleuths" suggests that what KF does has social value and that the SPLC are using information from KF would corroborate this implicit evaluation.

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Bellingcat's evidence of overlap between Iron March and Kiwi Farms is this ridiculous excerpt from a CSV file:

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Source: https://anonymousfiles.io/J4gjVF7n/ (https://archive.vn/eq8FN)
Source: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/201...osing-atomwaffen-and-the-iron-march-networks/ (https://archive.vn/zxIH1)

They've duplicated one line in its entirety and they counted the same account four times, presumably to pad out the excerpt. If we don't count things multiple times Bellingcat's evidence of overlap between Iron March and Kiwi Farms consists of seven (7) accounts. Where did you get your "many" from? Seven accounts from many thousands does not meet the definition of many.

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No, it doesn't. All it means is that the person has made at least one donation to the website. That's all. The only people that could be described as "deeply involved in the site"--other than Null--are the handful of moderators and administrators.

That's a lot of denial and gaslighting. I'm not buying it.

It occurs now too. As recently as 3 months ago, the Catholic Church paid 7.3 million USD to over 70 victims, most teenagers or younger.

I'm just going to let this comment hang here for the next time you say my rejection of Catholicism and Christianity is irrational

 

[LoverofPi]

I have proof demonstrating otherwise

So pony up, Mel.

Well, firstly, there is some inaccuracy here. Not all KF users are citizens or legal residents of the USA. So those of you KF loyal fan base, users and trolls who are not citizens or legal residents of the USA have no rights under the US Constitution.

Accepting that as true arguendo, it means the US has no legal standing against them and they can say whatever they want without worrying about you.

Firstly, there's a lot more going on here than people simply expressing their opinion about me.

Secondly, the First Amendment does not grant anyone the right to post content on the internet about anyone unless they are "the press". KF is not "the press". Or do you claim to be journalists?

The First Amendment protects six things: (1) religious beliefs (2) religious practices (3) right to assemble (4) freedom of the press (printed words) (5) freedom of speech and (6) protesting the government's decisions

The internet is not "speech" because it's written, not audio.

Written word is legally speech, Mel. First amendment extends to all citizens, not merely the press.

So basically you can't answer the question

If all you got out of that was that I cannot answer the question, then I just have to conclude you were in fact trying to fish for a specific response as a gotcha, and not arguing in good faith.

That's a lot of denial and gaslighting. I'm not buying it.

Or, in plain English, there's a lot of stuff in there she's not mentally prepared for and so she's going to lazily dismiss it before it causes more distress to consider.

I'm just going to let this comment hang here for the next time you say my rejection of Catholicism and Christianity is irrational

It's your continuing to be a Christian while claiming not to be one that's the irrational thing, Mel.

 

[Toasty]

Secondly, the First Amendment does not grant anyone the right to post content on the internet about anyone unless they are "the press". KF is not "the press". Or do you claim to be journalists?

I had no idea that constitutional rights only apply to persons of one type of employment! Citation please?

 

[TheShedCollector]

Secondly, the First Amendment does not grant anyone the right to post content on the internet about anyone unless they are "the press". KF is not "the press". Or do you claim to be journalists?

You are the single stupidest person on the planet. It is almost sickening to me knowing there are people as unintelligent as you on this Earth.

You are one of the most objectively awful people that has ever existed. You are a disgusting slam pig who has accomplished nothing. The six equally disgusting potato midgets you call your children would be better off in foster care. I'd bet at least four of them are inbred.

The First Amendment, was adopted in 1791. The Internet did not come around in any form until 1983. I see an almost two century long gap there.

Do yourself a favour, and kill yourself. Just go jump in your car, go find a nice sturdy wall, take off your seatbelt and drive into it as fast as your car can go.

 

[Kosher Salt]

The internet is not "speech" because it's written

Wrong.

I'd ask you to post court rulings that say otherwise, but there aren't any, and I'm sure you'd manage to find some that don't but that you think do, and explaining to you why they don't and you're wrong would be a waste of time.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I see that Melinda doesn't know anything about Human Rights. That's okay, there's a growing list of things she's clueless about.

Also Melinda. The Freedom of Speech includes things like plays, music, movies, art, literature, dance, and other visual media,

 

[Karl der Grosse]

This is just more retarded misunderstanding of what rights actually are and what they mean. FFS, she thinks that double jeopardy means that she can't be investigated twice for the same sort of crime. She really thinks that if she's investigated for child abuse (as she has been, multiple times), but charges aren't filed, she can never legally be investigated for child abuse again. This is grotesquely wrong, of course.

This time she's just quibbling about definitions, but that's par for the course.

 

[Viridian]

I have proof demonstrating otherwise

So let's see it. Though I suspect said alleged proof is as non-existent as the book you claim Hugh J. Schonfield wrote supporting your crazy retard theory that all the "real Jews" migrated to Scotland. Still waiting for you to name this imaginary book that you swear exists, Cousinfucker.

Firstly, there's a lot more going on here than people simply expressing their opinion about me.

Yes, we know you like to claim there's some sort of conspiracy against you involving Wise County officials, because you want to paint yourself as the morally wronged victim. But this conspiracy doesn't exist. No one here is working with Wise County in any capacity. Wise County went after you because you're a shit mother who abuses your children and lets the men (temporarily) in your life abuse them as well. The fact we recognize the same thing that Wise County did--that you're a shit mother who abuses her children--is not proof of a conspiracy. It's proof of you being a shit mother who abuses her children.

Secondly, the First Amendment does not grant anyone the right to post content on the internet about anyone unless they are "the press". KF is not "the press". Or do you claim to be journalists?

You claimed we were, in your letter to Null's lawyer:

The First Amendment protects six things: (1) religious beliefs (2) religious practices (3) right to assemble (4) freedom of the press (printed words) (5) freedom of speech and (6) protesting the government's decisions

The internet is not "speech" because it's written, not audio.

You are provably wrong on this point. An average 5th grader's understanding of the 1st Amendment is better than yours. The freedom of speech granted by the 1st Amendment does not only apply to spoken words.

What Does Free Speech Mean?

Among other cherished values, the First Amendment protects freedom of speech. Learn about what this means.

www.uscourts.gov

You are an intellectually disabled malignant narcissist. You can't see past your delusions about what you want the law/a holy book to say to recognize what it actually says. This is why you fail at everything you do in relation to both, and why you will continue to fail until you die or get over yourself, whichever comes first.

 

[mindlessobserver]

She called all of us "patriarchal, heterosexual, and white supremacists

As a gay black tranny who identifies as queer, pronouns Xe/Xa, I find this over generalization to be quite bigoted.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I have proof demonstrating otherwise

Show it then.

Well, firstly, there is some inaccuracy here. Not all KF users are citizens or legal residents of the USA. So those of you KF loyal fan base, users and trolls who are not citizens or legal residents of the USA have no rights under the US Constitution.

Most Western Countries in one way or another recognize similar rights to the US First Amendment. For example, Free Speech is a recognized right by the body of UN, and therefore is (at the very least in theory) recognized by its member states as well. Regardless, said member states have their own version of the right to free speech.
All of what I just said is, of course, irrelevant, because you seem to be missing a few key facts.
1. This is a US forum, and things said here are bound only by US law.
2. You are trying to stifle speech of US forum.
3. You, the person who is upset about this forum, are a citizen of US.

My point is that there is no way in hell that the first amendment doesn't apply here, Mel,

Firstly, there's a lot more going on here than people simply expressing their opinion about me.

True. We mock other cows, share news, organize games, etc. If we are talking about this thread only, then we also debate religion, science, law, etc with you.

Secondly, the First Amendment does not grant anyone the right to post content on the internet about anyone unless they are "the press".

Literally not true, and you can't support this claim with any factual evidence. IF I had to counter your claim, I'd use cases like Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U.S. 844 (1997), HUSTLER MAGAZINE v. FALWELL (while this case did involve a parody magazine, the citations therein were not limited to the press), Talley v. California, 362 U.S. 60 (1960) (wherein, the Supreme Court clearly states that 1st protects both the anonymous publishing, as well as circulation of such message. Even greater the protection when criticizing "oppressive practices", as we clearly do with your vexatious litigation meant to only stifle speech.)

Or do you claim to be journalists?

Well, you claim us to be, especially Null.

The First Amendment protects six things: freedom of speech

There you go, your own argument defeated.

The internet is not "speech" because it's written, not audio.

The Supreme Court has held that speech includes written words for at least 61 years. Said Supreme Court has also stated (in Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U.S. 844 (1997) ) that the internet is "the most participatory form of mass speech yet developed" (hear that Mel? SPEECH), and it is entitled to "the highest protection from governmental intrusion".

So basically you can't answer the question

LoverofPi did answer though.

That's a lot of denial and gaslighting. I'm not buying it.

Okay then. Prove that we are all the things you claimed us to be in the exhibit a.

I'm just going to let this comment hang here for the next time you say my rejection of Catholicism and Christianity is irrational

I have talked to you about Christianity (including this time) total of maybe two times. Are you losing the narrative?

Written word is legally speech, Mel. First amendment extends to all citizens, not merely the press.

I genuinely don't understand how she doesn't understand this. It's been this way forever.

I had no idea that constitutional rights only apply to persons of one type of employment! Citation please?

Unless she finds a magical citation that somehow defeats over 60 years of SCOTUS First Amendment cases, there isn't a citation that helps to prove her point.

I'd ask you to post court rulings that say otherwise

Well, there are rulings that prove her to be wrong, namely Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U.S. 844 (1997)

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Show it then.

Most Western Countries in one way or another recognize similar rights to the US First Amendment. For example, Free Speech is a recognized right by the body of UN, and therefore is (at the very least in theory) recognized by its member states as well. Regardless, said member states have their own version of the right to free speech.
All of what I just said is, of course, irrelevant, because you seem to be missing a few key facts.
1. This is a US forum, and things said here are bound only by US law.
2. You are trying to stifle speech of US forum.
3. You, the person who is upset about this forum, are a citizen of US.

My point is that there is no way in hell that the first amendment doesn't apply here, Mel,

True. We mock other cows, share news, organize games, etc. If we are talking about this thread only, then we also debate religion, science, law, etc with you.

Literally not true, and you can't support this claim with any factual evidence. IF I had to counter your claim, I'd use cases like Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U.S. 844 (1997), HUSTLER MAGAZINE v. FALWELL (while this case did involve a parody magazine, the citations therein were not limited to the press), Talley v. California, 362 U.S. 60 (1960) (wherein, the Supreme Court clearly states that 1st protects both the anonymous publishing, as well as circulation of such message. Even greater the protection when criticizing "oppressive practices", as we clearly do with your vexatious litigation meant to only stifle speech.)

Well, you claim us to be, especially Null.

There you go, your own argument defeated.

The Supreme Court has held that speech includes written words for at least 61 years. Said Supreme Court has also stated (in Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U.S. 844 (1997) ) that the internet is "the most participatory form of mass speech yet developed" (hear that Mel? SPEECH), and it is entitled to "the highest protection from governmental intrusion".

LoverofPi did answer though.

Okay then. Prove that we are all the things you claimed us to be in the exhibit a.

I have talked to you about Christianity (including this time) total of maybe two times. Are you losing the narrative?

I genuinely don't understand how she doesn't understand this. It's been this way forever.

Unless she finds a magical citation that somehow defeats over 60 years of SCOTUS First Amendment cases, there isn't a citation that helps to prove her point.


Well, there are rulings that prove her to be wrong, namely Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U.S. 844 (1997)

I would like to also point out this

RED LION BROADCASTING CO., INC., ET AL.
v.
FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION ET AL.​

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7640733876913500692&hl=en&as_sdt=2&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr

One of the first cases that changed the Freedom of Speech to include other things. There's also a 1949 case as well.

 

[Karl der Grosse]

"Kiwi Farms has no right to speech because they aren't the press!"

"Kiwi Farms is bad journalism!"

Pick one, Melinda.

 

[LoverofPi]

This is just more retarded misunderstanding of what rights actually are and what they mean. FFS, she thinks that double jeopardy means that she can't be investigated twice for the same sort of crime. She really thinks that if she's investigated for child abuse (as she has been, multiple times), but charges aren't filed, she can never legally be investigated for child abuse again. This is grotesquely wrong, of course.

This time she's just quibbling about definitions, but that's par for the course.

Jumping on this not because you don't understand it but to lay it out very plainly so Mel might-

Double Jeopardy means a person cannot be tried for the same ACT more than once. If you are found not guilty of an ACT of child neglect, and then continue to behave in such a way as to continue to neglect or endanger your children, the repeated instances of neglect are distinct ACTs of neglect.

Put another way, let's say you are hypothetically accused of robbing a bank and are found not guilty. That doesn't mean you can now no longer be arrested and charged if you rob banks in the future.

 

[ogmudbone]

I laughed so hard at this. She was almost in tears. I almost laughed myself into a coma.

Which episode was that, for science.

 

[Kosher Salt]

Not all KF users are citizens or legal residents of the USA. So those of you KF loyal fan base, users and trolls who are not citizens or legal residents of the USA have no rights under the US Constitution.

Wrong. When non-US citizens do things in the US, they have the same natural rights that US citizens have. And you're suing a US-based website in a US court for things that you claim harmed you in the US.

You can't use US courts to violate the rights that Kiwifarms users have under the US constitution, because US courts cannot violate rights that are guaranteed by the US constitution. And you couldn't use non-US courts to violate the rights that Kiwifarms users have under the US constitution, either, because non-US courts don't have jurisdiction over the farms and wouldn't be able to force Josh to hand over our identities.

You're in a catch-22, smelly melly.

 

[TheShedCollector]

Which episode was that, for science.

MasterCard and PornHub, Joshua Moon and Melinda Scott - Two Love Stories

Let's cut the Election coverage for a bit and talk about what really matters: Porn and Kiwi FarmsGrab some whiskey and join me.Come catch a livestream talks...

www.youtube.com

Pinned comment has timestamps. She was arguing in the chat for a while beforehand.

God I forgot how long it even took her to follow the simple instructions of "email me". She's so fucking dumb it's embarrassing.

@TamarYaelBatYah do you remember this? That time you almost broke down in tears talking to a lawyer and humiliating yourself (again) talking about your dogshit lawsuit.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Melinda is a poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect. Someone should point a professor at Virginia Tech her way. She belongs in a textbook.

 

[drtoboggan]

Wrong. When non-US citizens do things in the US, they have the same natural rights that US citizens have. And you're suing a US-based website in a US court for things that you claim harmed you in the US.

You can't use US courts to violate the rights that Kiwifarms users have under the US constitution, because US courts cannot violate rights that are guaranteed by the US constitution. And you couldn't use non-US courts to violate the rights that Kiwifarms users have under the US constitution, either, because non-US courts don't have jurisdiction over the farms and wouldn't be able to force Josh to hand over our identities.

You're in a catch-22, smelly melly.

Smelly Melly is what I’m calling Batyah from now on.

 

[White Baby]

I have proof demonstrating otherwise

Uh oh, bros, she found out about the weed dungeon. We better relocate.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Uh oh, bros, she found out about the weed dungeon. We better relocate.

It's truly a small world.