Dr. Kathy Rumer, DO / "The Butcher of Ardmore" / Rumer Gender Surgery / Rumer Cosmetic Surgery / Delaware Valley Aesthetics, PLLC - Sex-reassignment surgeon notorious for botched surgeries, constantly suing and being sued

[Cool Dog]

The thing is that about 95% of the current troon procedures and medication came from legit medical practices - women might need estrogen for various reasons; men might need testorone; lupron was developed to stop puberty in children with cancer because it's easier to treat them before puberty. It's just that they're trying to expand their market and I guess they found one where people are willing to turn themselves into lifetime patients.

But the same could be said about the opiods which were created for people who had serious pain issues due to cancer and other illness, but they are still getting sued because they pushed opiods for minor conditions too which created the current addiction crisis

No doubt in another ten years or so it won't be unusual to hear/see ads from law firms asking if you've been trooned, you may be entitled to compensation. I figure it'll be various versions of the lawsuits against the manufacturer of the troon drugs, kind of like the old commercials asking if you had either St. Joseph's asprin or St. Joseph's drops. Back then, Guillaume Barre syndrome was the end result.

You know how they say if you owe $100k to a bank you have a problem but if you owe $100 million then the bank has a problem?

I think this is the case, troonism has been pushed by far too many important players, its not some ill-marketed drug but an entire lifestyle+ideology supported by several governments who even passed legislation about it. Many corporations are supporting it to profit from it, tons of institutions who should be questioning this are instead being accomplices to this massive scam and putting their names on the line for troonism.

So when shit gets real and hundreds of thousands if not millions of troons in different stages of transition begin to see the dire consequences of their derangement will they get justice? will those who rather than treat their mental illness enabled their delusions pay for it? Will every politician who supported troony laws be forced out of office? will every CEO, actor, celeb, professor, dean, etc who supported troonism be shunned out of their industry/institution and forced to pay for the damages they caused?

Basically, will everybody who matters pay? has this ever happened in recorded history? if everybody who has any power supported troonism then who is going to make them pay?

I think troonism might be "too big to fail" in that they cant let it fail because the consequences would be too high for them

 

[scumbus]

I think troonism might be "too big to fail" in that they cant let it fail because the consequences would be too high for them

They won't let it fail because that would mean accepting that this ideology, something that many of these troons have built their entire lives around, is a total sham. Right now I openly believe that these people are mentally ill and not being treated for it correctly, but to them they are "living their authentic lives" and "embracing their true selves." Unless you're someone who is open to thinking critically about your own beliefs (and let's be honest, this group is not), how quickly would you give up something that you've sacrificed so much of your life for?

Besides that, it's quickly becoming the norm that arguing against trooning out in any way makes you an evil bigot. Even if you're just a centrist normie fucking around on Twitter, if you don't robotically repeat the mantra of "Trans Rights" when prompted then you'll soon be dogpiled by dozens of troons and "allies." To further their cause, these people have turned having an opinion into an objective moral high-ground.

tldr: "But telling someone not to chop their tits/cock off is preventing them from living happily in their delusion! How can you argue against that??" - Trans Allies, probably

 

[AnOminous]

I think this is the case, troonism has been pushed by far too many important players, its not some ill-marketed drug but an entire lifestyle+ideology supported by several governments who even passed legislation about it. Many corporations are supporting it to profit from it, tons of institutions who should be questioning this are instead being accomplices to this massive scam and putting their names on the line for troonism.

That's a sad fucking fact and I think you're right about this. To undo this absolute lunacy, we have to make the cost of continuing to support this atrocity more than the cost of backing it up. And unfortunately, that may take violence.

 

[OttoWest]

lupron was developed to stop puberty in children with cancer because it's easier to treat them before puberty

Lupron was first approved to treat men with prostate cancer. It’s since been used to treat precocious puberty but it was initially developed for adults.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Lupron was first approved to treat men with prostate cancer. It’s since been used to treat precocious puberty but it was initially developed for adults.

I know there are already class-action lawsuits from the (now adult) girls who received Lupron for precocious puberty.

Not to get conspiratorial, but I wonder if when the trans victims try the same, they plan to to defend with "oh gosh, so sorry you and your physicians made the informed decision to use Lupron for an off-label indication that the manufacturer never endorsed."

 

[AnOminous]

I know there are already class-action lawsuits from the (now adult) girls who received Lupron for precocious puberty.

Not to get conspiratorial, but I wonder if when the trans victims try the same, they plan to to defend with "oh gosh, so sorry you and your physicians made the informed decision to use Lupron for an off-label indication that the manufacturer never endorsed."

I am literally drooling over this concept. I think I may re-activate my license. Imagine the fun! Imagine the profit!

 

[axfaxf]

This thread causes me immense cognitive dissonance. After all, troons are fucking horrible and deserve awful things to happen to them. But then I see the pictures of the atrocities committed by the evil butcher named Kathy Rumer, and I think. . .oh my God, oh sweet dear Lord, can anyone deserve this? Isn't this the vilest thing that could possibly be perpetrated by a demon against a damned sinner?

And I suddenly can't cope. Nobody deserves this. Not even a troon. Please, save even troons from this awfulness.

I am literally drooling over this concept. I think I may re-activate my license. Imagine the fun! Imagine the profit!

I love you yankee retards. Please do it, save the troons! .

 

[Cool Dog]

That's a sad fucking fact and I think you're right about this. To undo this absolute lunacy, we have to make the cost of continuing to support this atrocity more than the cost of backing it up. And unfortunately, that may take violence.

If you use violence to help the troons you will be labelled an evil bigot by everybody including the troons you tried to help

If some troon breaks down and does a shooting because of what it was done to him its all gonna get memoryholed like tranny phantom

Theres no way around this, compare it with other retarded medical trends from the past, like did anyone go to jail for promoting lobotomies as a cure-all for mental disorders? that shit was common all the way to the 60s.

 

[Falling Star]

Why/How are hospitals even allowing her in their operating room?

They probably aren't liable for what she does in their OR, and at the end of the day this is just a "elective cosmetic surgery" so, who knows whose rooms she rents.

For completeness, I decided to check where she does her works of butchery. Shouldn't let these hospitals off the hook!

From what I've been reading, Hahnemann University Hospital was her primary hospital up until it shut down in 2019.

According to this website, Dr. Kathy Rumer is currently affiliated with three hospitals:

• Bryn Mawr Hospital (Bryn Mawr, PA)
• Delaware County Memorial Hospital (Drexel Hill, PA)
• Lankenau Medical Center (Wynnewood, PA)

This website says she "performs gender confirmation surgeries at Delaware Valley Memorial Hospital and at Delaware Valley Orthopedic and Spine Surgicenter. She has additional privileges at Bryn Mawr Hospital and Lankeneau Hospital."

I've also seen a few Rumer reviews claim they had their surgeries at Jefferson Methodist Hospital (Philadelphia, PA), so I'm not sure what to make of that.

 

[Dylan]

You queer faggots feel sorry for all those retarded troons who want gaping wound in their obese bodies to pose as vagina. They are not just mentally ill, they are narcissists they are not people. Dr. Rumer is a saint working 24/7 cutting dicks away from crazy Trannies. She probably ghosts and abandons her patients because they are too fucking mental to deal with, and they are probably too filthy to have their stinkditches to heal properly. I too would be content to cut dicks off from mental subhuman waste of society for good money.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

You queer faggots feel sorry for all those retarded troons who want gaping wound in their obese bodies to pose as vagina. They are not just mentally ill, they are narcissists they are not people. Dr. Rumer is a saint working 24/7 cutting dicks away from crazy Trannies. She probably ghosts and abandons her patients because they are too fucking mental to deal with, and they are probably too filthy to have their stinkditches to heal properly. I too would be content to cut dicks off from mental subhuman waste of society for good money.

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[sperginity]

You queer faggots feel sorry for all those retarded troons who want gaping wound in their obese bodies to pose as vagina. They are not just mentally ill, they are narcissists they are not people. Dr. Rumer is a saint working 24/7 cutting dicks away from crazy Trannies. She probably ghosts and abandons her patients because they are too fucking mental to deal with, and they are probably too filthy to have their stinkditches to heal properly. I too would be content to cut dicks off from mental subhuman waste of society for good money.

I feel bad for the literal retards that always end up victims of bad medical policy. That is who pays the most when doctors maim instead of healing. Developmentally disabled people have a lot of contact with the medical system because most conditions causing developmental delay are comorbid with other conditions, having a low intellect has medical risks associated with it anyway, and many are in the social welfare system so that there medical care is ensured. Whenever a pseudoscientific craze takes over medicine it is always inflicted upon the most vulnerable. I recall seeing a "top surgery" gofundme for a down syndrome teenager, who had already had severe problems stemming from testosterone use. I'm pretty sure that if this lolcow isn't retarded shes like 2 IQ points from it, and has also gotten surgery and hormones.

When lobotomy was the craze doctors all protected each other from criticism or even transparency in what they were doing. It was a bad system. Doctors of that time all wanted autonomy of practice more than anything else, but it turns out if you let physicians act in a psychopathic manner you end up with a populace that does not trust medicine and will therefore contract and spread preventable illness. The entire population becomes much less healthy when physicians aren't held accountable for breaches in medical ethics. It is a lesson being re-learned right now, opportunistic doctors have decided to politicize things that should have nothing to do with medicine (like "racism is the virus" or ignoring that quarantines have negative health outcomes unrelated to covid infections etc). I really hope everyone who enabled rumer & her ilk go down in flames with her. This grift will not last forever.

Someone asked earlier in the thread if anyone went to jail over lobotomy- not to my knowledge, no. But the biggest proponent of it was socially shunned and spent the remainder of his life ostracized and depressed once drugs were discovered that could be used to help the mentally ill be less agitated. Once there was an alternative, it became clear that lobotomy was not a good procedure. Before that? there wasn't anything, just filing cabinets of miserable people institutionalized for various reasons. He really thought he was helping people by performing lobotomies, and became THE example of an unethical physician. The prestige he enjoyed for most of his career was replaced with infamy. It isn't enough of a punishment at all, but it was something to a man who became a doctor in part for the respect he got for being a part of the profession. Finding out you spent decades fucking up the one thing you were working towards is undoubtedly painful. It is the sort of thing people wish for their enemies when they argue that "right side of history" bullshit. Of course kathy rumer would not care if she was unable to carve up wangs anymore, she only recently became a doctor, seemingly for the money. Sociopaths don't feel shame.

 

[flight of ideas]

Whenever a pseudoscientific craze takes over medicine it is always inflicted upon the most vulnerable...
When lobotomy was the craze doctors all protected each other from criticism or even transparency in what they were doing.

Off-topic but perhaps not entirely: two good books about this are The Lobotomist by Jack El-Hai which describes the lobotomy craze and the man who originated it, and My Lobotomy, a memoir by Howard Dully.

 

[wopirish]

If you use violence to help the troons you will be labelled an evil bigot by everybody including the troons you tried to help

If some troon breaks down and does a shooting because of what it was done to him its all gonna get memoryholed like tranny phantom

Theres no way around this, compare this with other retarded medical trends from the past, like did anyone go to jail for promoting lobotomies as a cure-all for mental disorders? that shit was common all the way to the 60s.

Anyone else remember that guy who said he was a transsexual ghost girl and if he killed enough people in a shooting at the grocery store he worked he would get a ghost pussy in the afterlife with danny phantom characters? That shit got memory holed hard. The only person I ever saw talking about it was metokur on his deviants? series i think.
There have already been many shooting sprees by troons but it all gets swept under the rug.

Edit
Randy Stair and the "ember's ghost squad"

https://youtu.be/IMbYsTpjbzU

 

[jolly good show]

Anyone else remember that guy who said he was a transsexual ghost girl and if he killed enough people in a shooting at the grocery store he worked he would get a ghost pussy in the afterlife with danny phantom characters? That shit got memory holed hard. The only person I ever saw talking about it was metokur on his deviants? series i think.
There have already been many shooting sprees by troons but it all gets swept under the rug.

Edit
Randy Stair and the "ember's ghost squad"

https://youtu.be/IMbYsTpjbzU

If anything it'll get blamed on troons being bullied into their madness by the meanie old cis people. They never would've gone on that spree if society had accepted them as their true selves!

 

[world of shit]

I doubt we'll see very many lawsuits in 10 years. It's not like trans people have a long shelf life.

Also, the world is a lot different from when, for example, Lobotomy was a common cure for anxiety, depression, whatever. Back then, we still had a high-trust society built by and for mostly white people. The elites nowadays won't ever say "opps my bad". Instead they'll just double-down, like every other social blowback from their societal shit-test psy-op. For further evidence, look at the the UK and the 'welcome refugees' shit. Anyone admit it was a mistake, or did they just let more in?

I really feel bad for these kids. A lot of them are legit on the spectrum and are conned into this from a sadistic and sick society, or just incel kids that have fried their brains on porn so much they actually want to become what they desire. Not only all that, but some form of gender dysmorphia can be a relatively normal part of puberty: your body is so filled to the brim with hormones, things get a little funky and need some time to settle down. Studies have shown the gender dysmorphia tends to go away on its own, and more serious cases can be treated with therapy or even drugs until the phase passed.

I would be very interested in seeing the testostrone results of young men that have a form a gender dysmorphia. I would suspect they're very low on T and some injections + church of iron would fix things.

 

[scumbus]

I would be very interested in seeing the testostrone results of young men that have a form a gender dysmorphia. I would suspect they're very low on T and some injections + church of iron would fix things.

It's so hard to find any studies that treat gender dysmorphia in the way you describe, but I really do feel like it's the answer. Having trouble feeling like a guy/girl? Here, take these hormones that actually align with your sex and we'll see how that works. I don't doubt that if there are studies like that out there, they've surely been covered up and shunned. Something like that wouldn't go along with the troon's perceived need to change, which they have convinced a large portion of the world is not mental illness but rather they were "born in the wrong body" or some other obviously disordered thinking.

Instead of treating the symptoms for what they are, doctors exacerbate and encourage them with shit like "gender affirming surgery" and opposite sex hormones. Of course, actually treating the problem wouldn't make nearly as much money, so they go along with it and support the troons. It's like a horrible, symbiotic relationship, with doctors like Rumer milking it for all it's worth.

 

[Groovelord Neato]

It's so hard to find any studies that treat gender dysmorphia in the way you describe, but I really do feel like it's the answer. Having trouble feeling like a guy/girl? Here, take these hormones that actually align with your sex and we'll see how that works. I don't doubt that if there are studies like that out there, they've surely been covered up and shunned. Something like that wouldn't go along with the troon's perceived need to change, which they have convinced a large portion of the world is not mental illness but rather they were "born in the wrong body" or some other obviously disordered thinking.

Instead of treating the symptoms for what they are, doctors exacerbate and encourage them with shit like "gender affirming surgery" and opposite sex hormones. Of course, actually treating the problem wouldn't make nearly as much money, so they go along with it and support the troons. It's like a horrible, symbiotic relationship, with doctors like Rumer milking it for all it's worth.

T in particular has an antidepressive effect so it'd likely be a shit version of what they need: therapy and prozac

 

[Gay Communist Gun Club]

There's a reason the vast majority of trannies don't even consider bottom surgery. Hell, most can't even be bothered to learn about the risks that come with cross-sex hormones.

 

[AnOminous]

Theres no way around this, compare this with other retarded medical trends from the past, like did anyone go to jail for promoting lobotomies as a cure-all for mental disorders? that shit was common all the way to the 60s.

It's amazing how long the history of absolute atrocities committed in the name of medicine. Troonery isn't even the worst really. Ever heard of a guy named Dr. Henry Cotton? He was one of the most well regarded psychiatrists of his time, even though his "treatments" were absolute lunacy and involved, for instance, just jerking out all of someone's teeth, because of some bizarre, made up theory he had that somehow your teeth made you insane. Something like half of his patients died directly as a result of his quackery, and yet, this dude who was pretty much a serial killer was allowed to get away with this for decades.

Troonery is on the same level.