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Kevin Gibes / Kathryn Gibes / TransSalamander / RageTreb / The Green Salamander - "Am hole:" The epitomized Twitter MtF you thought was just a myth! Donate to his Transformers toy fund today!
So the other day I was reading Uncle Ted's manifesto and part of his thesis seemed applicable to troonery. I'm paraphrasing and putting some of my ideas in the mix.
He talked about three levels of effort versus reward and their effects on self-esteem: easy shit, challenging shit, and impossible shit.
Uncle Ted was talking about this in the context of work, where he thought that most modern work is easy shit and doing easy shit all day doesn't help you feel better about yourself. Challenging shit, for most people, takes the form of hobbies, and that is also not the greatest well to draw self-esteem from.
Where I'm going with all of this is that trooning out seems to fall into the third category: impossible shit.
It is not possible to turn a man into a woman.
@Chapstick4Lyfe 's really good post up above is in some ways a counter to this, but where I think her ideas and my ideas about Uncle Ted's ideas dovetail is that there's no resolution. There's no moment where you've won the day and you can rest satisfied in a job well done.
Obviously AGP troons see "woman" as an inherently degraded state and most of them have a humiliation fetish, but the self-esteem bucket is always going to be a quart low because the state of failure is ongoing. There's no "winning" at troonery.
Okay, so, who is it - exactly - that's meant to be after the Trannybros? They've been saying local militia, fascists, and now Bonnie specifically said the cops are after them and he expects a fucking MRAP to show up at their door any minute to go along with the nightly raids and the visible army gathering right outside their door. But there is also zero evidence of any of these things happening even one time. I get that it's all completely fake, but have a small bit of consistency. Respect the lie.
Obviously AGP troons see "woman" as an inherently degraded state and most of them have a humiliation fetish, but the self-esteem bucket is always going to be a quart low because the state of failure is ongoing. There's no "winning" at troonery.
I think that a big reason troons are so defensive is that while a big part of transitioning is because of a fetish, it's also a major cope for weak men. every troon has a sad backstory of not fitting in, not having friends, getting bullied, failing socially, and I think they troon out because they inherently believe women to be weaker, so if they become a woman, it's ok for them to be weak. instead of working on themselves and becoming proud of who they are, they just become a woman, who they believe it's acceptable to be "weak" and avoid responsibilities. this also explains why so many of them also fetishize being a child: the ultimate weak, carefree, responsibility free space. anyway, it should be no surprise that troons hate feminists so much: the idea that woman are strong, and equal to men, and can do anything they want means that troons can't use being a woman to cope for their weaknesses anymore
Man, I knew that it would be a disaster back when I first heard about the Tenacious Unicorn Ranch, but I feel like the basic idea of a trans sanctuary ranch could actually work out really well in competent hands. Your first instinct might be to say, "you'll never extract anything of value besides lols from a troon", but that's not completely true. Sure, most trannies seem to have personality disorders that completely make them worthless, but it's certainly not every single one, and a good screening process could probably find you a handful of reliable troons who will give themselves heart and soul to your community.
Because trannies have 3 traits that will make them perfect as off-the-grid workers. 1) They are really into their identity. I can't exactly say they're loyal to the trans community or dedicated, but in terms of all the other things in their life the trans community seems to be the one thing that a tranny loves other than themselves. And if they do decide to bitch on social media about how it's too hard to live on a tranch the rest of the community will be right there to gaslight and groom them into believing that they have to stick to it. 2) A lot of them want to reinvent themselves. They want to cut off all ties to the lives they lived before and living off the grid in a self-sufficient community is a pretty perfect way to do that. 3) You have a gimmick to sell your products. Look at the reviews for the tranch's wool already. We have copers praising it for having bits of grass and shit in it because it shows that it's authentic. People showing off their skeins on social media, and GFM raising thousands in a day because even people who will never live on the tranch want it to succeed at least as much as the people who started it.
I'm a simple urbanite, but it's kind of got me thinking about how I'd do this. You'd need some start-up capital and a few skilled trannies. I know that the idea of shipping container homes were discussed in the past before ultimately being dismissed, but I think it's not entirely without merit, at least for getting the tranch off the ground. Cleaning out and renovating those containers would be a relatively simple team-building project that can't be too irrevocably fucked up. You'd have to build some sort of exterior walls/roof for insulation purposes, but the sturdy containers take a lot of the structural concerns off your plate, you'd basically just need to build them strong enough to hold fiberglass insulation, set up the units side-by-side to minimize the exterior work. Once you've cleaned, painted, cut vents, put down a rough floor (cover it up with a rug), and put up drywall (maybe an interior wall and a flimsy door so the back half is closet space) that leaves electrical. That's where you'd need a skilled tranny with some electrical experience, but each unit would probably only need one outlet and an overhead light, you could probably sacrifice a good amount of the space in the back since the containers are about 8'x20'. Bathrooms would have to be communal, hopefully plumbing really shouldn't require much skilled upkeep, so that's not something you really need a skilled tranny for, just a normal plumber should do just fine. Kitchen would also be communal. No living room, part of the ranching experience is living in the great outdoors, just make a nice fire-it area. Make sure that one of your skilled trannies knows how to cook for a lot of people.
As for the product, I think that wool is actually a good idea. It allows your financial supporters to buy something permanent that they can show off to their friends to prove what good trans allies they are, but alpaca seem like a bad fit. Small animals have a couple advantages, they need smaller and therefore simpler shelter and taking care of cute little animals makes you look more like a woman. Angora rabbits are a great investment because (IF PROPERLY CARED FOR!!) one generates hundreds of dollars worth of high-quality fiber each year. All trannies will need to contribute to the grooming, but it would be great to be able to show off your transgirls intimately caring for adorable balls of fluff.
By the way, get a tranny who knows how to take good pictures. Have him carry a camera with him at all times and post carefully curated ones every single week, more likely every few days. Since you are selling an idea almost as much as a product, make sure that your animals are kept in tip-top condition. It'll be harder to find a tranny who actually has livestock experience, but they exist and they are critical.
Get some chicken or quail, you probably won't be able to sell their products, but they're part of the whole self-sufficiency angle. They eat kitchen scraps (and actual bird food, I don't think they can thrive on just scraps) and give you eggs. If you use quail you can also get a lot of quality meat. Keep them away from your wool animals though, birds are not clean animals.
Once things are running you can start bringing in less skilled trannies as general labor, but screen and vet them thoroughly. You'll be able to start building more serious structures with more people and more experience, if the area is nice maybe even renting rooms to vacationing troons to get away from the city complete with a gift shop where you sell the arts and crafts made by the residents. Eventually you can bring in a chemistry troon to start manufacturing estrogen for the entire tranch.
All it takes is one community member to do a Google search and find this thread, where all the most damning tweets are archived and organized. The community is probably mostly boomers who use the internet only for Facebook. But they have teenage kids, or grandkids, some of whom will think the tranny commune is hilarious and want to find out more.
It's stupidity combined with madness, folded in with some idiocy and batshit insanity, the things they tweet publicly. But joke's on us, I guess, with their fundraising in the five figures...
Unfortunately they aren't going to be Googling "kathryn gibes" or "kevin gibes" since he probably doesn't interact with them at all, they'll be looking up "tenacious unicorn ranch" where this thread is on the 4th page or maybe they'll google "steampunkpenny" or "penelope logue" where we probably don't even show up. They aren't finding this thread unless they do a deep search.
Come to think of it in terms of a viable business, what if they started some sort of troon trailer park. They could collect NEETbux and gibs from fellow troons to rent out lots. I mean with their barren land they can't farm with it and it's more viable than any other business they've attempted so far, like the recycling gig.
This would be there best bet to keep their little ranch alive. Rent out space to other trannies and allies, they could even charge bases on where you fall on the progressive stack.
If the Tranchers ended up becoming effectively tranny landlords that would be utterly hilarious given how vitriolic the hatred is for those from their brand of leftism.
They'd find some way to make it different, like call it a commune or a community or something. Or maybe not it's not like it would be the most hypocritical thing they'd be doing.
Can you guys imagine a literal Troon Town, and not just a town full of trannies but a town full of heavily -ish armed trannies. We would never go without laughs again.
Unfortunately they aren't going to be Googling "kathryn gibes" or "kevin gibes" since he probably doesn't interact with them at all, they'll be looking up "tenacious unicorn ranch" where this thread is on the 4th page
Troons demand that everything be inclusive, but the vast, vast majority of these cretins are completely worthless and borderline psychotic. You would need to turn away 99 troons for every one who might possibly be able to function on TranRanch 2: Dilation Boogaloo. Because you've turned away all the insane troons you now have their fucking crazy online community declaring you literally worse than Hitler and demanding you be cancelled; you would be excommunicated from troondom and so would anyone associated with you.
You cannot apply logic to troons, they are all fucking mental.
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Seeing Kevin talk about his self loathing/dissatisfaction with his own body almost makes me feel sorry for him. It's so obvious that he was groomed, but he can never acknowledge it; doing so would leave him even more broken than he already is.
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Then I'll see a bunch of tweets like this and stop feeling sorry for him.
>who would willingly try to become a guy?
It's almost like a proportion of troons (this proportion is debatable and likely differs between TiMs and TiFs) have genuine dysphoria and transition to correct their psychological incongruence? (Link)(Archive)
They're really bringing their best.
I'm a simple urbanite, but it's kind of got me thinking about how I'd do this. You'd need some start-up capital and a few skilled trannies. I know that the idea of shipping container homes were discussed in the past before ultimately being dismissed, but I think it's not entirely without merit, at least for getting the tranch off the ground. Cleaning out and renovating those containers would be a relatively simple team-building project that can't be too irrevocably fucked up. You'd have to build some sort of exterior walls/roof for insulation purposes, but the sturdy containers take a lot of the structural concerns off your plate, you'd basically just need to build them strong enough to hold fiberglass insulation, set up the units side-by-side to minimize the exterior work. Once you've cleaned, painted, cut vents, put down a rough floor (cover it up with a rug), and put up drywall (maybe an interior wall and a flimsy door so the back half is closet space) that leaves electrical. That's where you'd need a skilled tranny with some electrical experience, but each unit would probably only need one outlet and an overhead light, you could probably sacrifice a good amount of the space in the back since the containers are about 8'x20'. Bathrooms would have to be communal, hopefully plumbing really shouldn't require much skilled upkeep, so that's not something you really need a skilled tranny for, just a normal plumber should do just fine. Kitchen would also be communal. No living room, part of the ranching experience is living in the great outdoors, just make a nice fire-it area. Make sure that one of your skilled trannies knows how to cook for a lot of people.
As for the product, I think that wool is actually a good idea. It allows your financial supporters to buy something permanent that they can show off to their friends to prove what good trans allies they are, but alpaca seem like a bad fit. Small animals have a couple advantages, they need smaller and therefore simpler shelter and taking care of cute little animals makes you look more like a woman. Angora rabbits are a great investment because (IF PROPERLY CARED FOR!!) one generates hundreds of dollars worth of high-quality fiber each year. All trannies will need to contribute to the grooming, but it would be great to be able to show off your transgirls intimately caring for adorable balls of fluff.
By the way, get a tranny who knows how to take good pictures. Have him carry a camera with him at all times and post carefully curated ones every single week, more likely every few days. Since you are selling an idea almost as much as a product, make sure that your animals are kept in tip-top condition. It'll be harder to find a tranny who actually has livestock experience, but they exist and they are critical.
Get some chicken or quail, you probably won't be able to sell their products, but they're part of the whole self-sufficiency angle. They eat kitchen scraps (and actual bird food, I don't think they can thrive on just scraps) and give you eggs. If you use quail you can also get a lot of quality meat. Keep them away from your wool animals though, birds are not clean animals.
Once things are running you can start bringing in less skilled trannies as general labor, but screen and vet them thoroughly. You'll be able to start building more serious structures with more people and more experience, if the area is nice maybe even renting rooms to vacationing troons to get away from the city complete with a gift shop where you sell the arts and crafts made by the residents. Eventually you can bring in a chemistry troon to start manufacturing estrogen for the entire tranch.
But in all seriousness, I also like troons realizing that they can’t bend reality around them enough to function in any populated urban center and choose to banish themselves to the woods. However this isn’t the first tranny haven to be started and fail. I think trannies have an inherit issue that they conflict sexuality with sexual identity and because of this they are doomed to in-fight.
Even the ranch has this issue, I mean Bonnie is a monogamous, “a sexual” married to a cis man, Penny is a BDSM non cis polycule and Kevin is a “as long as it says trans on it I’m in” mess. This has shown to cause rifts, with Bonnie passively aggressively reminding people that the ranch isn’t a dating site.
Im torn on this, right now it feels apt because of all the madness and it may be good to have somewhere that trans “allies” could visit to talk about animal abuse and not Kevin’s proclivity for sticking plastic in himself.
however it may water down the pressure on the ranch if things are spread too thin.
Kevin is so desperate to have Autism that he now says he developed it post troon?(this means well into his late 20’s)
reminder for anyone new, even though it looks it, Kevin has never been diagnosed with autism or any other leaning disabilities. His mother was teacher specializing in sped-Ed and made sure Kevin got all the tests and he’s fine. He just wants to have a special invisible disability that has an added bonus that you can be an asshole to people.
Remember that white chick who sat naked and spread eagle in front of a line of cops at a BLM protest? Yeah, that's what Kev should do. I can picture the CIS militia retching from the horrid view and toxic fumes and running to grab gallons of bleach for their eyes.
Troons demand that everything be inclusive, but the vast, vast majority of these cretins are completely worthless and borderline psychotic. You would need to turn away 99 troons for every one who might possibly be able to function on TranRanch 2: Dilation Boogaloo. Because you've turned away all the insane troons you now have their fucking crazy online community declaring you literally worse than Hitler and demanding you be cancelled; you would be excommunicated from troondom and so would anyone associated with you.
You cannot apply logic to troons, they are all fucking mental.
Any functional troons already have jobs and places to live. Only a dysfunctional retard would be in a position where working on a ranch that doesn't even treat its animals humanely and bleeds money is an option. There are zero reasons why a semi-sane troon would want to babysit a bunch of retards that have nowhere else to go.
The good thing about kevins twitter is every time I start to feel empathy for him and his messed up life, he goes off and says something disgusting and I'm like "oh yeah, he's kinda at fault for all this"
I think the Tranch could support a full sub-forum now. There's, what, six permanent residents that we know of? One thread each, Kev might support more than one tbh. Plus Wedge, Mode_View, Meth Jesus, Yemeni Rambo and other individual hangers-on I'm sure can all support their own threads if we dig into them a bit (Mode_View already does). Plus there's a Tranch fanfiction thread in A&L, and I keep meaning to start my Rimworld LP with the Tranch crew. Plus there could be other containment threads for gun sperging, tranny sperging, Transformers sperging, animal/ranching sperging, all that stuff.
Strikes me that as things are right now, this thread alone generates more content than the Tommy Tooter and Brianna Wu subforums put together, and that's before everyone gets their own thread.
Come to think of it in terms of a viable business, what if they started some sort of troon trailer park. They could collect NEETbux and gibs from fellow troons to rent out lots. I mean with their barren land they can't farm with it and it's more viable than any other business they've attempted so far, like the recycling gig.
Wouldn't work, the trailer troons would demand to be fed and only have NEETbucks as their sustainable income so they'd be leeching more than necessary. (Imagine the power and water problems they'd have after that!)
