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[Herr Flick]

No, I mean a biological male putting on a wig or having gender dysphoria isn't going to affect his place on the IQ distribution.

Random sample of a population of biological females vs trannies and you are going to get a many more trannies up in the multiple standard deviations above the norm. And that isn't just academic intelligence. But raw leadership abilities to analyze problems, organize and execute to solve those problems, or transform a population towards some large scale goal.

I think of Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood but now in a wig let loose in any biologically female organization or power structure and he(or she) is going to mow down all who oppose him and rapidly come to the dominant position.

That is why every bit of tranny normalization that the S+ movement is fighting against out to have massive support from real females. Complete tranny normalization in society effectively means women become second class citizens.

I believe it is the belief that it is all sexism and the patriarchy that is the explanation for those very real biological differences that blinds a large part of the female population beyond the hapless radfems from realizing the danger they face from the tranny menace.

Instead most biological females see tranny normalization as just another form of acceptance that they are happy to support.

That makes sense.

Still, trannies are mentally ill, terminally married to non-reality, and extremely self-conscious/emotionally fragile. Their entire existence revolves around their fetish. That offsets the value of any above-average IQ by a significant margin.

Any success a troon enjoys is undeniably affected by the fact that they are a protected class. If a woman ever tried to push back against a tranny, or even against the Religion of Trannidom without targeting a specific troon, she'd get canceled on the spot. This happens to TERFs all the time. The troons that inevitably replace them are seldom superior in ability or competence, not least of all because they generally tend to focus on activism first and their actual job second.

My guess is that most people hate troons, or would if they ever came into contact with one/had to compete with one, but can't be bothered to say so because doing so would just attract the wrongthink police. It's true that opposition without action doesn't mean much, but you can't really blame anybody for not doing anything when what they'd have to do in effect is push back against what is basically every major power structure in existence because they've all been moneyed into championing troonery.

 

[LeeHarveyOslik]

That makes sense.

Still, trannies are mentally ill, terminally married to non-reality, and extremely self-conscious/emotionally fragile. Their entire existence revolves around their fetish. That offsets the value of any above-average IQ by a significant margin.

Any success a troon enjoys is undeniably affected by the fact that they are a protected class. If a woman ever tried to push back against a tranny, or even against the Religion of Trannidom without targeting a specific troon, she'd get canceled on the spot. This happens to TERFs all the time. The troons that inevitably replace them are seldom superior in ability or competence, not least of all because they generally tend to focus on activism first and their actual job second.

My guess is that most people hate troons, or would if they ever came into contact with one/had to compete with one, but can't be bothered to say so because doing so would just attract the wrongthink police. It's true that opposition without action doesn't mean much, but you can't really blame anybody for not doing anything when what they'd have to do in effect is push back against what is basically every major power structure in existence because they've all been moneyed into championing troonery.

Have you read a "Little Zaches Called Cinnabar"" fantasy novel by E. T. A. Hoffmann? A qote from pedowikia:

A good fairy Rosabelverde, bewitches the ugly little child Zaches [...], with an ugly body and soul, so that most people, mostly philistines, stop seeing him as unsightly. Now people are drawn to him and any praiseworthy deed performed in his presence is attributed to him. [...] And vice versa, as soon as he does something disgusting or shameful (and he does nothing else) - in the eyes of those present, someone else seems to have done an abomination; most often the one who suffered the most from Cinnaber's antics.

Doesn't it remind of something?

 

[Cyclonus]

holy shit I never thought i'd see my own 4chan post on here
yes, I really did make that post. Mostly as a joke, didn't think people would actually take it seriously

I'm looking through my posts on the readchan app to see if i can prove it hahaha
Edit: found it
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You idiot, now they keep saying this whole thing was started by nazis and not some asian kid on tik tok and they keep repeating that no matter how many times its proved wrong.

 

[inception_state]

Looks like r/SuperStraightphobic also got the banhammer. Not that they served much purpose once all the superstraight subs got nuked.

The real world examples I am thinking of is in open source where there has been a tremendous amount of tranny takeover. And that is in highly competitive male dominated hierarchies. I have also this week heard from many feminists and lesbians lamenting the complete tranny takeover of their formerly 100 percent biological female organizations.

Subreddits and open source communities are vulnerable to entryism, given how they generally are volunteer positions that take up lots of time and most people have better things to do. Trannies are often under or unemployed and seem to be disproportionately willing to put in 40 hours a week of being an internet jannie for asspats and internet clout. And of course, once you get a couple of them in any organization they'll start REEEing about the lack of diversity, start up some LGBT subcommittee, start harassing your devs who are actually getting stuff done because they used the term "blacklist"... Which is a recipe for the normies leaving and the trannies taking control and wearing the organization's husk like a skinsuit.

You idiot, now they keep saying this whole thing was started by nazis and not some asian kid on tik tok and they keep repeating that no matter how many times its proved wrong.

Who cares, if he didn't do it they would have just false-flagged a 4chan post about it.

 

[Plank]

Still, trannies are mentally ill, terminally married to non-reality, and extremely self-conscious/emotionally fragile. Their entire existence revolves around their fetish. That offsets the value of any above-average IQ by a significant margin.

I agree with what you wrote except this part.

In regards to my open source example, the trannies are almost entirely middle of the road as far the lunacy spectrum down to a completely normal 60 man who slaps a pink wig* on his bald he for the huge tranny bonus status.

I would assert that these trannies are going to on average easily outcompete their biologically female counterparts.

I believe these types of trannies are the real threat to biological women. And not "It's mam!" meme type freaks or worse that make it onto this site for their antics.

* yes that is a perfectly unironic 2021 sentence

Subreddits and open source communities are vulnerable to entryism, given how they generally are volunteer positions that take up lots of time and most people have better things to do. Trannies are often under or unemployed and seem to be disproportionately willing to put in 40 hours a week of being an internet jannie for asspats and internet clout. And of course, once you get a couple of them in any organization they'll start REEEing about the lack of diversity, start up some LGBT subcommittee, start harassing your devs who are actually getting stuff done because they used the term "blacklist"... Which is a recipe for the normies leaving and the trannies taking control and wearing the organization's husk like a skinsuit.

I agree about trannies and entryism in the open source world, but there are two distinct groups trannies. The one you describe who are jobless freaks who worm their way onto Code of Conduct thought police type positions. Little to no technical skills. Batshit insane, etc.

But there are now in the past few years a massive number of highly skilled trannies in all levels of open source. And they are doing real work and running real organizations. They are relatively stable compared to the non-technical activist freaks of the first type.

I believe that it is these competent and not batshit crazy trannies that are going to pose a massive threat to biological women if complete tranny normalization continues.

 

[Cousin It]

The real world examples I am thinking of is in open source where there has been a tremendous amount of tranny takeover. And that is in highly competitive male dominated hierarchies. I have also this week heard from many feminists and lesbians lamenting the complete tranny takeover of their formerly 100 percent biological female organizations.

There is definitely the large and somewhat mysterious push from powerful forces or money that has been hinted and speculated about in this thread that definitely explains some of that takeover, but I don't believe it explains it all.

Perhaps the outcome would not be as bad as I am speculating about, but even possibility should have biological females almost completely united in the pushback against tranny normalization.

I agree with you about the mental instability of trannies, but in the open source world I have not seen any sign that has prevented from a massive number of trannies continuing to dominate all levels of open source organizations.



Sensible chuckle over just how butthurt the tranny jannies are right now at reddit after this glorious fiasco for them all.

I'd still be more inclined to think that the differences lie more in male aggression that assertiveness rather than competence in decision making. Women tend to be naturally agreeable and it is reinforced through the socialization they go through. Whereas males naturally more aggressive when asserting themselves. You could make an argument that this aggression is an important and valuable trait in a leadership role, but simply being able to enforce your ideas and management onto others only gets you into the role. It doesn't necessarily make one good at the role.

EDIT: As to your recent post about the 'middle-of-the-road' trannies. I could concede that they probably are somewhat competent, but I would also classify them similar to what you said of the 60 year old who just slaps on a wig. They likely aren't serious troons, just cross-dressing dudes under a new label or guys who take advantage of wokeness for some extra clout.

 

[Ted Kaczynski]

You idiot, now they keep saying this whole thing was started by nazis and not some asian kid on tik tok and they keep repeating that no matter how many times its proved wrong.

everyone else was doing it so it's not like it really made an impact. besides, i didn't even make the OP image. don't get so butmad, this is all part of the plan (tm)

 

[Plank]

EDIT: As to your recent post about the 'middle-of-the-road' trannies. I could concede that they probably are somewhat competent, but I would also classify them similar to what you said of the 60 year old who just slaps on a wig. They likely aren't serious troons, just cross-dressing dudes under a new label or guys who take advantage of wokeness for some extra clout.

But regardless of whether they are a really tranny or just a dude in a wig, either way they are taking a spot of a biological female. And that was what I was really getting at.

I have been somewhat thinking out loud and strongly agree with what you and Herr Flick have been posting in response. I didn't mean to derail this tread into a general male vs female IQ subtopic. I only brought it up because of the discussion of the complete ineffectualness of the radfems and their lament that it was a straight (white? asian?) male who did what they have not been able to.

One would think that more women would see the danger they face if this tranny normalization continues without any pushback. You do see lots of women complaining when they see nothing but strong brave 'women' (trannies) being celebrated by the media on Women's Day, and all the other examples of tranny invasion of biological females spaces. But you are not seeing them lead the charge when a huge opportunity like this SuperStraight movement reveals a huge weak spot in the tranny menace.

And of course, biological females are going to be competing with trannies who aren't going to be going off months for maternity leave and they aren't going to hit 40 and lose all their drive and return to family life making the trannies even more attractive to companies and organizations.

 

[taa]

Honestly just discovered this website, it's very enjoyable.

SuperStraight has had an amazing ascendancy, but it will inevitably end up being anti-trans.

If anything, straight people are incredibly angry at the existence of both the Cotton and Boxer Ceilings. Before this week, straights had no concept of what a TERF is. Straight people now understand the alphabet civil war that's been happening. SuperStraight was just trying to be nice while stating that we really don't care.

Now we care.

(Cheers to y'all on the website. I've enjoyed my introduction to KiwiFarms by enjoying a couple of beers while perusing the previous 50 pages.)

 

[Vesperus]

 

[Herr Flick]

But regardless of whether they are a really tranny or just a dude in a wig, either way they are taking a spot of a biological female. And that was what I was really getting at.

I have been somewhat thinking out loud and strongly agree with what you and Herr Flick have been posting in response. I didn't mean to derail this tread into a general male vs female IQ subtopic. I only brought it up because of the discussion of the complete ineffectualness of the radfems and their lament that it was a straight (white? asian?) male who did what they have not been able to.

One would think that more women would see the danger they face if this tranny normalization continues without any pushback. You do see lots of women complaining when they see nothing but strong brave 'women' (trannies) being celebrated by the media on Women's Day, and all the other examples of tranny invasion of biological females spaces. But you are not seeing them lead the charge when a huge opportunity like this SuperStraight movement reveals a huge weak spot in the tranny menace.

And of course, biological females are going to be competing with trannies who aren't going to be going off months for maternity leave and they aren't going to hit 40 and lose all their drive and return to family life making the trannies even more attractive to companies and organizations.

I get your point now, and it makes sense. You could theoretically have dudes in wigs that aren't insane lining up to snatch the quota-spots given to women, but frankly in that case I would argue that it's not such a bad thing. It's just moving the pity quota from one class of people (biological females) to another (troons.) Self-respecting women don't want quotaspots, they want to be hired because they're competent in their fields. The ones that are more interested in work than gibs get by just fine when they're competing with men. If quotaspots are taken from useless workers who are in them exclusively because they possess x trait, it doesn't matter too much if y trait replaces them instead. In fact, it's funny, especially if it causes ree.

It should be noted that radfems, like trannies, are a minority of mentally ill people that aren't capable of grasping reality, and what they do or don't do probably isn't an accurate representation of the thoughts of the majority of women. It seems that, in actuality, many women are aware of and hate the tranny menace, but there just isn't very much they can do about it because of the universal troon armor that insta-doxes, fires and ridicules anyone that opposes them. The same is true for men. In this thread, there is a post by a woman who was sexually assaulted by a tranny but wouldn't say anything, and wouldn't let her boyfriend say anything, basically because they'd get ruined for being 'transphobic'. If you don't want to fuck, hire, or "validate" a tranny by pretending reality isn't real, you're transphobic.

SuperStraight is a movement that might do some damage, but it's too early to say if it's strong or enduring enough to be worth potentially destroying your life over. Realistically speaking, it'll probably just get nuked and memory holed off the internet because nothing anti-troon is allowed to gain traction.

 

[Kanuckski]

I was talking to a guy who experiences gender dysphoria once, and Yaniv came up. His response was, 'Don't judge us by our crazies.'

Which is, in general, fair. But when it comes to the trans and troons, I think the response is, 'Then don't let the crazies define your agenda, be leaders, and be defended no matter what.' Even if you agree with @Dyn about trans people, the 'sane' ones get no airtime even from within their own movement.

By their own admission the people inserting pro-trans policies are doing it under the cover of the LGB community because they know they wouldn't be accepted otherwise. The vast majority of their advocacy is based on unpleasant people like Daniel Muscato, Charles Clymer, Kate Strangio and Rhys McKinnon claiming emotions as facts and using lies as evidence, and every trans person with any political clout ranges from Morgane Oger to Aimee Chanellor on the 'seriously deviant and hateful' scale.

There are trans people who are more sane. But they inevitably get shouted down, dismissed and even deplatformed by the troons. So I think it's fair to say that the troons outnumber any 'genuine trans' types, and by a fair margin.

Maybe the troons should go after the asexuals next, because they're not attracted to them either...

I think specifically when it comes to trans and troons it's practically impossible for trans people to have ever put up a fight to maintain their community once the ball got rolling with troon shit. Gender dysphoria is some actual 0.01% of the population. Regardless of troons creeping on people of every sex, the trans community still has strong cross over with other sexualites in a technical sense since they often have the preference of the sex they wish they were. Which is why you see Homosexual Transexual from Blanchard's Typology as the keyword for actual trannies. So as an extremely tiny minority of an already tiny minority group it makes sense for the T to be with the LGB, it needs that association as protection. I'd say super straight is an excellent example of this, even if it's not for proper trans people. A wider queer community and activists defending the portion that simply can and never will be able to defend itself. The obvious issue is that the T has been completely overtaken by the men in dresses who swarm into it in impossible numbers and are insane and willing to fight these retarded culture wars in unfathomable numbers that proper HSTS can't possibly ever compete with. Which is what's reduced them to an tiny, shunned minority within their own community that was supposed to be about them. I know a genuine FTM that refuses any participation in these communities for this exact reason. So these protections and additional associations are typically instead used as a spearhead into the zeitgeist and not a shield.

And the higher-ups in the medical community agree with the troons, not because they think they're so heckin' valid and cute. But because customers for life who buy hormone blockers, hormones and expensive surgeries is a great money making opportunity and it's within their interest to erode the once impossibly high standards for reassignment surgery so they can get more of these customers. Doctors like Blanchard and Milton Diamond who create foundational groundwork for the truth are swept under the rug because they undermine this profitable new industry of medical butchery. Every other doctor of any science either agrees, or shuts up. Lest their decade of hard study be for nought. Proper protections and support disappears as troons, the useful idiots they are cheer on the destruction of a community and industry not meant for them. HSTS don't get a voice in their own community and it's horrifying. Shit like this shows the importance of standing up for others while there are still others to stand up for before they come for you. Not just because they'll be less people to speak for you, but that they'll be more people against you as they continue to subvert groups.

 

[taa]

You idiot, now they keep saying this whole thing was started by nazis and not some asian kid on tik tok and they keep repeating that no matter how many times its proved wrong.

No.

It's almost brilliant that the 4Chan post has locked transgenders into relying on Godwin's Law to combat SuperStraight. The dates alone on the posts from TikTok and 4chan make it easy to disprove the nazi link, and as such, they have nothing else.

 

[Meiwaku]

No.

It's almost brilliant that the 4Chan post has locked transgenders into relying on Godwin's Law to combat SuperStraight. The dates alone on the posts from TikTok and 4chan make it easy to disprove the nazi link, and as such, they have nothing else.

It's amazing because the first argument you hear from a totally not also fascist leftist is "it's nazi propaganda" and that dismisses anyone looking into it.

I argued a friend over it who said "i don't trust things started on 4chan" like no dude it was started on tiktok and then 4chan had it "but i found nazi memes" nigga there's nazi memes for everything we already know 'alt-right" is infested with troons as well . That argument is moot

 

[Linako 2.0]

oh yeah, and not to powerlevel, but remember why the nazis burned all those books?

The wrong people won wwii

 

[Vaclav]

Beyond the toxic and completely unproductive infighting and backstabbing that dooms so many female only enterprises, I believe there is also the unequal distributions of IQ/general intelligence on the extremes between males and females that is strong contributing factor.

Very interesting point, given the inverse bell curve of talent distribution in males. In a male organization, there is a gulf between the lower-talent men and the higher-talent men, such that the lower-talent men know they can't compare with the higher-talent men and will tend to naturally fall in line behind them. A lower-talent man looks up at a higher-talent man and thinks, "He's so smart, I could never compete with him, I should just do what he says." The higher-talent men look at those below, don't see a threat to their position and focus on how to make the best use of them.

Meanwhile, women are on a bell curve with their ability levels closer together. Lower-talent women look at higher-talent women and see stuck-up bitches who need to be taken down a peg. Higher-talent women see those below them as a danger to their status. In an organization of women, this means that much thought and energy must be devoted to enforcing the hierarchy and social status quo, with accomplishing goals a secondary concern.

The real world examples I am thinking of is in open source where there has been a tremendous amount of tranny takeover. And that is in highly competitive male dominated hierarchies. I have also this week heard from many feminists and lesbians lamenting the complete tranny takeover of their formerly 100 percent biological female organizations.

I'm curious for a tech industry perspective. Are there that many trans programmers with real ability? I remember from hearing about all the CoC drama that Corey Ehmke who created the Contributor Covenant was a totally mediocre programmer who did short stints at a bunch of places with minimal achievements before trooning out, and from then on his only contribution has been creating tools to enable the tyranny of the unproductive over the productive. It'd surprise me if there are many people who can live a lie and demand a hugbox who are also able to master a skilled trade.

 

[Niggernerd]

I'm curious for a tech industry perspective. Are there that many trans programmers with real ability?

No, but if you want to keep your job its best to say they're the best at what they do

 

[HumanHive]

The wrong people won wwii

No, the wrong people won the Napoleonic Wars.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Beyond the toxic and completely unproductive infighting and backstabbing that dooms so many female only enterprises, I believe there is also the unequal distributions of IQ/general intelligence on the extremes between males and females that is strong contributing factor.

The standard more male geniuses but more of their corresponding low intelligence counterparts on the other side of the bell curve is almost always assumed to refer to how well these people do on purely academic or pure thought activities. But this unequal distribution appears to be not just for that type of intelligence, but also a more general set of leadership and organizational abilities that males at the high end have over their corresponding female counterparts.

Humans are more emotional and social beings than intellectual. Being smart can help but if their intelligence comes at the cost of social and emotional awareness. then it can be an even bigger detriment to success. Which is why many parents will often dread their kids having autism moreso than contracting polio.

Imo human evolution is to explain for the differences in intelligence in men and women. For men, there’s a benefit to having some guys to be dumb muscle, because they can contribute force. Likewise there is a benefit to having some autists that could discover new things like how to make new weapons that may give them an edge in survival or on the battlefield. In a similar vein the ability to recognize patterns was key to success in both hunting and warfare.

With women there was more evolutionary pressure to be aware socially. This can largely be chalked up to humans long gestation periods which makes them vulnerable for a significant portion of time. A woman that couldn’t fit in would easily fall prey to predators or just the hazards of the wild. So if they were smarter on average but it came at the cost of social ineptitude, then they’d be at greater risk of death. Likewise if a woman was extremely dumb it’d put her and her children at greater risk of being ostracized, killed, etc.

This may also explain the famous youtube video by the black preacher lamenting the fact that there are no great civilizations in Africa that are comparable to what whites have built. This is often attributed to the lower average IQ of much of the black population compared to whites. But I think a more important factor is similar to the male vs female differences, is the much smaller number of black males at the very high end of the bell curve compared to in white populations - who don't just have raw academic type talent but the mental abilities to analyze large scale societal problems, effectively come up with plans, and drive a population to successfully execute those plans toward goal.

There was a similar lamentation amongst Nordic scholars in regards to ruins. That’s why finding a longboat was such a big deal because many had a chip on their shoulder that they didn’t have pyramids like the pagans of Egypt, Central America, or the Mediterranean. Personally I think ruins are overrated and I find frontiers to be the most interesting, so it didn’t really bother me personally. (I happen to be more fascinated by Nordic, Turkic, Mongolian, and other such people than say the Romans or Han Chinese).

A major issue I have with some African scholars in the US is there isn’t really a pan African culture and trying to look at Africa through the lenses of race really distorts the picture of the continent. For example Northern Africa was more connected to the rest of the Mediterranean and had little in common with South Africa who for all intents and purposes where on the other side of the world. Their language, culture, religion, values, and even their geographical landscape were entirely different.

If the tranny mafia continues to erase 'adult human females' by making them completely interchangeable with trannies, the males in a wig are going to completely displace their biological 'sisters' everywhere that real women have made inroads in the STEM dominated fields and power structures.

Trannies will take resources away from women in stem and pose an existential threat to women’s sports. *Edit* I don’t think they’re going to get displaced entirely though in politics. Even in extremely male centric societies, elite women can have a lot of soft and hard power. Plus the only reason that trannies got this far is off the coattails of normal homosexuals.

 

[wyleanda]

No, but if you want to keep your job its best to say they're the best at what they do

The problem is if you dare to speak out on any harassment on women or trans people at work you'd best start getting a lawyer.... so Just keep calm and carry on if you want to keep your job and your loving life.