Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Seriously I love Ashoka as character I really do. I mean I grew up with her and all. But Jesus Filoni can a you make a story without Ashoka in it for once!!!!!.
Shes the only character he created that anyone cares about because they were sweaty 14-25 year olds thirsty for jailbait Ahsoka 15 years ago and now they're sweaty 30- to 40-somethings still thirsty for jailbait Ahsoka but adult Ahsoka is good too
 
I think they mean his voice actor or whatever. I can't really give enough fucks about that shitty Emperor clone/knockoff.
Also...

1: Ahsoka and Obi-Wan will be featured as characters in that shitty Calrissian Andor/Rogue One-spinoff show because forcing Ahsoka into everything and trying to establish a forced cinematic streaming universe is all these people can think of.

2: The design for Boba's lady servant 'Fennec' in the Bad Batch was leaked and she looks pretty shitty tbh.
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Reminds me of the Nostalgia Chick but blockier. And they have her wearing the exact same outfit and hair despite the show taking place almost 30 years before the Mandalorian. Peak creativity there, Filoni frens. :stress:
Guess they though audiences would be too dumb to be able to recognize her or didn't think the character was memorable enough.
So how fucking old is Fennec?
 
So how fucking old is Fennec?
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Theoretically if we are going off of the actress's age. if the gap between the end of the clone wars and the Rotj is 25 years give or take. Fennac could be 25 in the bad batch and in her fifty's in the mando. Darn those special Asian genes.
 
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Theoretically if we are going off of the actress's age. if the gap between the end of the clone wars and the Rotj is 25 years give or take. Fennac could be 25 in the bad batch and in her fifty's in the mando. Darn those special Asian genes.
I didn't realized she was that old. Also is Ming- Na Wen going to reprise her role in Bad Butch.
 
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I think they mean his voice actor or whatever. I can't really give enough fucks about that shitty Emperor clone/knockoff.
Also...

1: Ahsoka and Obi-Wan will be featured as characters in that shitty Calrissian Andor/Rogue One-spinoff show because forcing Ahsoka into everything and trying to establish a forced cinematic streaming universe is all these people can think of.
I half wonder if they're doing this because even Filoni and company know no one wants to watch a show about Guy McAccent, so they got to bring in fan favorites to draw viewers. Of course the problem with this is it shrinks the universe, as there's this massive galaxy and yet these people keep running into each other. This was one of the problems I had with Clone Wars and Rebels as well.
2: The design for Boba's lady servant 'Fennec' in the Bad Batch was leaked and she looks pretty shitty tbh.
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Reminds me of the Nostalgia Chick but blockier. And they have her wearing the exact same outfit and hair despite the show taking place almost 30 years before the Mandalorian. Peak creativity there, Filoni frens. :stress:
Guess they though audiences would be too dumb to be able to recognize her or didn't think the character was memorable enough.
In fairness, Clone Wars' whole design aesthetic is kind of blocky, plus this looks like an incomplete model (see the wireframe at the top of her head).
So how fucking old is Fennec?
Well her actress, Ming-Na, is in her 50's, so in universe the ages would line up. Plus Filoni has had a tendency to include characters that don't appear to be much younger or older than when they first appeared (Bossk in the Clone Wars, Hondo in Rebels).
 
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I half wonder if their doing this because even Filoni and company know no one wants to watch a show about Guy McAccent, so they got to bring in fan favorites to draw viewers. Of course the problem with this is it shrinks the universe, as there's this massive galaxy and yet these people keep running into each other. This was one of the problems I had with Clone Wars and Rebels as well.
Bob Justman of Star Trek fame put it best:

"Here we are in the outer reaches of our galaxy and who should Captain Kirk run into, but good old Kor – an adversary that he has encountered before and with whom he has been unable to get very far. Just think of it – billions of stars and millions of Class M-type planets and who should he run into, but a fella he has had trouble with before. No wonder Kor doesn’t recognize him at first. The coincidence is so astounding, that he must feel certain that it couldn’t possibly have happened."

Sometimes having characters meet up is understandable, especially when they have a common connecting factor and it adds some amusing interactions. But in Filoni shit, encounters are always convenient coincidences that manage to push the limit of expectations just for the sake of having his OCs front and center in one way or another. Its much like how the early comics would frequently use the same set of bounty hunters from ESB when bounty hunters were needed, but thankfully it was becoming more stable when they had Bossk and Dengar "retire" for the most part and IG-88's last double sacrifice himself, but Filoni then re-enforced it further by having them show up regularly in Filoni Wars, especially Bossk. Although that whole underground ninja planet arc was possibly just promoting the cancelled 1313 game. Maybe...
In fairness, Clone Wars' whole design aesthetic is kind of blocky, plus this looks like an incomplete model (see the wireframe at the top of her head). Well her actress, Ming-Na, is in her 50's, so in universe the ages would line up. Plus Filoni has had a tendency to include characters that don't appear to be much younger or older than when they first appeared (Bossk in the Clone Wars, Hondo in Rebels).
The wireframe at the top of her head is supposed to be her little orange hair ribbons and her hair looks blockier than usual. One could point out Bossk being unchanged and wearing the same outfit is an issue but its excusable to some degree due that its a flight/pilot uniform and not a fashion choice, but with Ming-Na its painfully noticeable since its clearly a personal garment, and her age is more noticeable due to that she's just a human character and has the exact same fashion sense and looks 30 years later. Then again, it seems like Filoni wants to make his OCs immortal. Look at Hondo. Guy looked and seemed older in Rebels but then the recent stuff and Galaxy's Edge had him young again and no longer having "beard spikes" and the red head Bo-Katan should be pushing 60 but in Mandalorian she's a 40 year old who looks completely unchanged from Rebels right down to armor choice and hairstyle. And the most noticeable is Ahsoka who Filoni vehemently enforced as having survived past the Disney trilogy and being the only Force using character allowed to do so despite never bothering to help during this bullshit crisis or stop the FO or anyone outside of Space Aladdin. In the end Filoni just wants his favorite pets to get special treatment. And Disney-Lucasfilm has even had Hondo unrealistically meet up with every single character in the franchise.
 
Am I the only one who ended up hating her for what she did to Ulic? No? (:_(
She didn't have a whole lot of choice...

Well I mean she did, but he kind of had it coming. You think what they did to Exar Kun was any better? At least Ulic got another decade or so to live.
 
She didn't have a whole lot of choice...

Well I mean she did, but he kind of had it coming. You think what they did to Exar Kun was any better? At least Ulic got another decade or so to live.
If she had done it before he freaked out at killing his brother and was already repenting, it'd be different. Doing it afterwards is what always bothered me. Plus, the way she acted at the time was very emotional, and it bugged me. It was the complete opposite of the OT, where there really isn't any forgiveness or offers of redemption. Ulic did evil shit, but he wasn't completely evil. He even became a Jedi Master while being unable to touch the Force. It's one reason why I enjoyed the KOTOR game better.
 
If she had done it before he freaked out at killing his brother and was already repenting, it'd be different. Doing it afterwards is what always bothered me. Plus, the way she acted at the time was very emotional, and it bugged me. It was the complete opposite of the OT, where there really isn't any forgiveness or offers of redemption. Ulic did evil shit, but he wasn't completely evil. He even became a Jedi Master while being unable to touch the Force. It's one reason why I enjoyed the KOTOR game better.
Gotta keep in mind that this arc was done in like 1993-4. The prequels were a concept still then, KOTOR didn't exist, there wasn't this whole insane monklike dogma the Jedi had because Lucas hadn't thought it up yet. The Jedi in the old comics were emotional, they were impulsive, they were possessive, held grudges, had families. They were human. I think you're looking at TOTJ in a post PT mindset where there were all these codified rules for the Jedi that just didn't exist in the early 90s. Not to mention that these stories take place like 5,000 years before the OT.

Ulic imo, kind of had a Vader like tale of tragedy in which he fell, for what he thought were good reasons (though he was primarily motivated by his failure to stop Master Arca's death), to do what he thought was a good thing. He ends up becoming a monster responsible for an untold amount of deaths, so lost in his own self righteousness.. Then at the end he's basically stripped of EVERYTHING that made him what he was, like Anakin was. His redemption was short and bittersweet, the last ten years of his life marked by deprivation and haunting guilt. Sound like anyone else we know?
 
Reminds me of the Nostalgia Chick but blockier. And they have her wearing the exact same outfit and hair despite the show taking place almost 30 years before the Mandalorian. Peak creativity there, Filoni frens. :stress:

TBF Bobba's been in the same armor for like 40 years at this point. Not everyone has the expansive wardrobe of Leia Luke.
 
And while "It's for kids" is a tired excuse for the failures of Disney Star Wars, having the same design makes it easier for kids to recognise that it's the character that was in The Mandalorian.
Also kind of makes sense. I mean... I dunno, I feel like Boba wouldn't CHANGE the armor, being that it is his personal armor and all, and it's essentially a cultural piece, as well. He's probably gotten so attached to the standard Green-Red design that he wouldn't change it in a million years.

I wonder why he changed it from Silver-Blue to Green-Red whenever he got Jango's armor, though.
 
TBF Bobba's been in the same armor for like 40 years at this point. Not everyone has the expansive wardrobe of Leia Luke.
Yeah but with that is excusable since its the whole "in honor of me dad's legacy" kind of shit and the armor has endured for all its wear and tear and is made of valuable stuff, which in Disney shit is made incredibly inconsistent because they just had Boba abandon the armor for no reason only to reclaim it almost a decade later from out of nowhere, and no reasons or explanations are ever given other than because Filoni wanted it to be cool and mysterious and not contradict Chuck Windbag's shitty novels. Anyway, here we have a girl wearing a basic outfit that she's been wearing along with exact same hair accessories for 35 years while she has not aged a bit. In contrast Chewbacca in ROTS looking almost identical to the OT is excusable since wookiees live for centuries, so 30 years is like a drop in the bucket for them, and they're pretty much nudists.
And while "It's for kids" is a tired excuse for the failures of Disney Star Wars, having the same design makes it easier for kids to recognise that it's the character that was in The Mandalorian.
Pretty much Filoni's modus operandi (he still uses the same manner of writing and character development as he would on something like ATLA) and I think Filoni and his team realizes that his characters just aren't noteworthy enough to be recognizable by themselves unless they bash it over your head with the same design epic because they just think so little of their audience (like having the Fennec character take off a very convenient strap on her shirt that just as conveniently showcases her cybernetics which aren't even covered or armored' because otherwise you wouldn't know she's a cyborg in Filoni's simplistic logic). Which is odd since that Hondo character had a pretty different design in Rebels compared to TCW that made him look older and gave him a different outfit.

Anyway, @Mississippi Motorboater lol
 
"It's for kids" was also the tired excuse of the prequels.
I think "it's for kids" only applies if they're directly the target audience. Themes are kept simple, dialogue equally so for the most part and while older audiences can enjoy it it's still accessible by kids. The prequels shove in way too much political banter for it to be exclusively for kids.
 
Holy shit this makes my blood boil.


I think "it's for kids" only applies if they're directly the target audience. Themes are kept simple, dialogue equally so for the most part and while older audiences can enjoy it it's still accessible by kids. The prequels shove in way too much political banter for it to be exclusively for kids.
Lucas said for years that they were for kids, regardless of the themes inherent that most kids wouldn't understand.
 
George says a lot of things.
That in no way invalidates that Star Wars is meant for kids, being the whole thing is based on kitschy serials from his youth. You being flippant isn't going to magically change his intentions just because you feel some themes are too heavy or boring for children.
 
2: The design for Boba's lady servant 'Fennec' in the Bad Batch was leaked and she looks pretty shitty tbh.
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[...] And they have her wearing the exact same outfit and hair despite the show taking place almost 30 years before the Mandalorian. Peak creativity there, Filoni frens.
Did she wear that outfit in the first season?
I don't like the design of her face, it's like they're trying to get closer to the shitty SW Rebels art style. She doesn't even look like Ming-Na. At least her costume is highly-detailed and not drawn on a 3D stick figure.
 
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