The State of Kotaku 2021 - Or when will Kotaku shut down?

How long does Kotaku have before it shuts down?


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To people regarding Nintendo Power, it actually continued as a podcast, obviously it's not the same but it has a lot of the editors on board. It was endorsed by Nintendo too. Still a real shame Nintendo Power went away.
Honestly I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.

Nintendo Power existed in an age before the internet and game magazines or your friends were the only option for video game codes or how to get past certain levels.

Every kid I knew growing up knew someone with a Nintendo power subscription and the bus stop before school was the place to learn about the the Konami Code or how to find something in Zelda.
 
The letters to the editor section was my favorite in the late 2000's. Seemed to always have weird letters like the one where someone fantasized about being homeless with nothing but a TV, a Wii, and adult diapers. Should look through my old issues to see where it is.

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Or this one, from some weirdo named "Christian C", whoever that is.
 
The only reason anyone knew or visited Kotaku, minus GameGate/SocialJustice BS, was Jason Shreier, who's gone from there. Jason's the go-to guy for people in the industry who wanna leak stuff. Though even that's still mostly, at least half, just industry drama about employees and the businesses themselves rather than about GAMES. Seems like a lot of gaming journalism and discussion is just about that meta drama nowadays.

But then conventional gaming journalism is unnecessary nowadays. In the 90s, magazines were how you heard about games coming out and what was worth renting/buying - and also how studios got info about their games out to the public. In the 00s it was websites like GameTrailers. But now? Companies can directly put out media about their games to gamers. And gamers trust streamers and online social communities they're part of for information and opinions, rather than "game journalists" who are usually less informed, less competent, less accurate, etc. I can just look up some real non-lizardperson playing a game raw to see if its something I'm into. And if I was some game publisher or developer, I'd rather just send keys out to Lets Players or upload trailers to YouTube/Facebook/whatever than get in bed with these irrelevant media outlets.

I've taken a look around the websites and channels for these legacy gaming journo companies, and its just hollow trash. Their channels aren't worth subscribing to for game trailers / real news, because they tend to spam mostly wannabe Lets Play trash for more content, but it just means shit I'd have to sift through to find what I care about: game news/trailers. The websites are garbage hot-take clickbait like why Samus would be better as a tranny or at best their content is just "Hey, look at this popular Reddit thread we copied and put on our website!"

TLDR games journalists are completely useless middlemen in a world that no longer needs them.
 
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The only reason anyone knew or visited Kotaku, minus GameGate/SocialJustice BS, was Jason Shreier, who's gone from there. Jason's the go-to guy for people in the industry who wanna leak stuff. Though even that's still mostly, at least half, just industry drama about employees and the businesses themselves rather than about GAMES. Seems like a lot of gaming journalism and discussion is just about that meta drama nowadays.
That's the debate that's been raging and i've had on here a few times already, is Jason actually that good? Personally, I had jason block me within 5 minutes on twitter twice when tweeting mean jokes at him. Jason seemingly has all the free time in the world and I've seen it happen to other people. If you read his stuff a lot of it is overly wordy or just not very bright.
I think Jason has like 2-3 close friends he went to school with or parties with in the industry that he relies on for all his stuff. It seems like he's very propped up by other people.
 
Jason is damn good at what he does, most of his leaks and exposes do turn out to be true, but I lost any lingering respect I had for him when he bitched about The Last of Us 2 leak when he got Kotaku blacklisted by Bethesda for leaking Fallout 4's script. How blatantly hypocritical can you be?
 
That's the debate that's been raging and i've had on here a few times already, is Jason actually that good? Personally, I had jason block me within 5 minutes on twitter twice when tweeting mean jokes at him. Jason seemingly has all the free time in the world and I've seen it happen to other people. If you read his stuff a lot of it is overly wordy or just not very bright.
I think Jason has like 2-3 close friends he went to school with or parties with in the industry that he relies on for all his stuff. It seems like he's very propped up by other people.
He's a good... networker, maybe. But I guess that's what all "good journalists" are. He's able to position himself as someone people in the industry go to if they wanna leak or talk about something. Its not like he's some amazing writer or has insightful takes. He's a signpost that industry people write what they want the masses to see. The only reason his name is known at all is because people are willing to exclusively leak to him, thus allowing him to break stories.
 
That's the debate that's been raging and i've had on here a few times already, is Jason actually that good? Personally, I had jason block me within 5 minutes on twitter twice when tweeting mean jokes at him. Jason seemingly has all the free time in the world and I've seen it happen to other people. If you read his stuff a lot of it is overly wordy or just not very bright.
I think Jason has like 2-3 close friends he went to school with or parties with in the industry that he relies on for all his stuff. It seems like he's very propped up by other people.
I don't think Jason Schreier is a good journalist, he's just the mediocre guy who stands out like a light house on a dark coast line because all the other game journalists are utter shyte.
Compared with really great journalists like Walter Cronkite, George Polk or Eric Sevareid, well, Jason Schreier would be the "get me a coffee and shut the fuck up" guy.
 
Why are you visiting Kotaku in the first place? The site is pure, concentrated AIDS.


All the remaining former Gawker sites are like this now. I read Jezebel and The Root a few times a week for laughs (and also to be informed of important issues to women, LGBTQ, and Black™ communities) and they barely seem to update now compared to the non-stop content churn they used to be. They're probably not going to shut down completely, but they'll keep getting pawned off to a different venture capital firm every year or two for less than what they cost the last time until they're all eventually owned by some sketchy Chinese media company that outsources all of their writing to Indians or Pakis who will work for peanuts.
Even if these sites are already past their prime and nobody visits them anymore, the damage they helped cause on American society and culture is going to take longer to fix.

I still can't believe what happened in the 2010s really happened, that you had all these websites that embarked on this great crusade to basically ruin American society and culture, while they aren't the sole reason why it happened, to some degree they were also simply riding a cultural wave, they are nevertheless a huge contributing factor.

I sure miss the year 2010, the last year before all that shit started, why did everyone just go so fucking insane after 2010? Hopefully we can start working our way back to what pre-2011 society was.

To people regarding Nintendo Power, it actually continued as a podcast, obviously it's not the same but it has a lot of the editors on board. It was endorsed by Nintendo too. Still a real shame Nintendo Power went away.
It's weird that even something as popular as NINTENDO can't keep a single magazine afloat, although to be fair they folded in 2012 when Nintendo was arguably in a slump, but post Switch it's weird that nobody has tried to bring it back.

But print magazines about gaming are close to being extinct, at least in the US, I go into a grocery store and in the magazine section I see print magazines devoted to all sorts of topics but not a single one even remotely related to video games, I do see a few in bookstores but we're literally down to just a handful left that are still active and it's only a matter of time until there's none left.

It'd odd though because there's still plenty of print magazines that are still being published so it's not like the entire medium is dead yet, but somehow only video game magazines are the ones close to being extinct.

The only reason anyone knew or visited Kotaku, minus GameGate/SocialJustice BS, was Jason Shreier, who's gone from there. Jason's the go-to guy for people in the industry who wanna leak stuff. Though even that's still mostly, at least half, just industry drama about employees and the businesses themselves rather than about GAMES. Seems like a lot of gaming journalism and discussion is just about that meta drama nowadays.
Yeah, you ever notice how little people talk about actual games anymore? It's mostly drama related to games, but not games themselves, one good example being the Animal Crossing hair controversy.

In the late 2000s and early 2010s people still talked about games themselves a lot even if it was mostly to hate on them, but not so much anymore.

Video games are simply not in a good state these days, a new generation has started but there's none of the buzz or excitement surrounding it like there was around a new generation in the past, not even a fraction of it, most people can't even get their fucking hands on a new console at all due to scalpers.

I think all the drama and all the political baggage surrounding video games sucked most of the fun out of it, it's simply no fun to get involved in the wider gaming culture anymore when there's so many lunatics who will literally try to destroy your life over petty bullshit (like say, you picked the wrong hairstyle in Animal Crossing, to use that example again), but there's also clearly problems with how games are even made these days (*cough*Cyberpunk 2077*cough*), everything just seems to be broken at a fundamental level at the moment.

I know personally I'm looking forward to and will definitely play RE8 but after that I really feel like I might be done, either stepping away from video games completely or stepping away from modern games and focusing on the good games of yesteryear I haven't played yet because man, what a fucking mess modern gaming has become, when even fucking Animal Crossing causes people to have meltdowns, you know shit's bad lmao.

But then conventional gaming journalism is unnecessary nowadays. In the 90s, magazines were how you heard about games coming out and what was worth renting/buying - and also how studios got info about their games out to the public. In the 00s it was websites like GameTrailers. But now? Companies can directly put out media about their games to gamers. And gamers trust streamers and online social communities they're part of for information and opinions, rather than "game journalists" who are usually less informed, less competent, less accurate, etc. I can just look up some real non-lizardperson playing a game raw to see if its something I'm into. And if I was some game publisher or developer, I'd rather just send keys out to Lets Players or upload trailers to YouTube/Facebook/whatever than get in bed with these irrelevant media outlets.

I've taken a look around the websites and channels for these legacy gaming journo companies, and its just hollow trash. Their channels aren't worth subscribing to for game trailers / real news, because they tend to spam mostly wannabe Lets Play trash for more content, but it just means shit I'd have to sift through to find what I care about: game news/trailers. The websites are garbage hot-take clickbait like why Samus would be better as a tranny or at best their content is just "Hey, look at this popular Reddit thread we copied and put on our website!"

TLDR games journalists are completely useless middlemen in a world that no longer needs them.
It's incredible the downward spiral gaming journalism has been on when it was really looking like it was getting somewhere in the 2000s, now the entire thing is basically dead.

I still feel though like there's a market if a website brought back the vibe gaming journalism had in the 2000s, ie if it was actually about VIDEO GAMES.
 
I can recall people dunking on Kotaku as far back as '07.

This is one of my favorites.

Same. I don't think there was ever a time Kotaku was viewed as a credible source of news among gamers. Forums I used to frequent back in '06-'07 were dismissive of anything with a Kotaku link and the people who shared the links were treated like the fags they probably were. I'm surprised that they've lasted this long given that I can't point to a single time where it seemed like Kotaku was accepted or liked by the people who should be their base.
 
I still remember that article Tiffany Claiborne made up about breaking up with her boyfriend getting divorced because he let her die in Diablo 3. Then, people called her out on stuff that didn't make sense in terms of mechanics and she got all pissy about it. I remember that article in particular and RPS's general descent into contrarian twee hot takes being the signal to me that I wasn't the audience for that shit anymore.

Edit: Holy shit I found the best comment callout that even Totillo didn't have the balls to address or take down
Look, I'm a seven-year Kotaku veteran: a shameless Crecente supporter and a living memorial to every broken webpage redesign, commenting system malfunction, and inane papercraft post that this website has ever unleashed on its undeserving readership. But like a true masochist, I always come back for more. I just can't help it—I love games too much. Besides, Joystiq gave me lupus.
Anyway, long story short, I've seen some shit. But never anything like this.
I can say without a doubt that this article is the worst I've read on a gaming blog. Mere ignorance is one thing—a dreadful thing, but forgivable nonetheless. It can be cured, like most ailments, with time. But ignorance stained with pretension, ignorance sopping with tactlessness, ignorance reeking of such complete vapidity and moral decay that Bobby Kotick himself would try to sell it on the Internet with intrusive DRM and day one DLC—that's something else entirely.
Stupidity. Stupidity never changes.
How far has gaming news fallen, how doomed is this former colossus of a website, that the chronicled infidelities of a cheeky would-be Feuilleton hack (who thinks that Blizzard's Auction House Simulator assassinated her marriage) constitute balanced journalism? Kotaku is better than this. At least it used to be.
Mrs. Claiborne, this jumbled semi-coherent orgy of English letters you call an article has nothing to do with Diablo III. It has nothing to do with gaming. It's just a period piece, a disgraceful sign of the times. What did I learn from this article? Staring at Nintendo DS during a date isn't rude. Cheating on your spouse is normal and acceptable. Engaging in a Freudian game of Portal 2 in which you and your paramour, breathlessly yelling each other's names through a microphone, venture into each other's virtual holes is what passes for courtship in the twenty-first century.
All this because your husband let you die? At least he wasn't a self-avowed "cheating cheater." You know what we do to cheaters in Counter-Strike? We ban them. Get out of here, Tiffany. Jump through a portal and leave the journalism world alone.
 
I voted it will last forever because of how cheaply a site can be maintained these days.

It stopped being relevant years ago so it might as well have stopped existing.
 
Kotaku has seen better days with it's journalism but as long as there's money to be made, it'll last forever. The hedge funds really love to focus on quantity over quality.
 
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That's the debate that's been raging and i've had on here a few times already, is Jason actually that good? Personally, I had jason block me within 5 minutes on twitter twice when tweeting mean jokes at him. Jason seemingly has all the free time in the world and I've seen it happen to other people. If you read his stuff a lot of it is overly wordy or just not very bright.
I think Jason has like 2-3 close friends he went to school with or parties with in the industry that he relies on for all his stuff. It seems like he's very propped up by other people.
He's on the level of the well known sports journalists. People only know him because of people he knows. I don't read them, but I'd imagine his articles serve to continue those connections(ie fluffpieces) just like theirs do. But people don't care because they only see the headlines on Twitter.
 
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