Gorl World + Haydur Nation reaction channel discussion - Come sperg about the Reactmosphere, right here

[Whale Spotter]

It is 2.28 Lev to 1 British Pound, So Chikara is doing this 8 week program called Phoenix Rising (much creative). The issue with this is she is not a dietician, a coach or nutritionist. So she is essentially running a scheme with no experience other than her own which as most of you are aware can land you in some really nasty hot water. As if someone is injured, is not happy or essentially is just incredibly disgruntled could investigate you.

The oddest thing is the cost and the conversions, so she is charging £50 for applications (saying there are limited spots to drive interest, which is pretty disingenuous). The UK is not her country of residence anymore though she is permanently in Bulgaria and started it when living in Bulgaria. Then offering $ prizes to the top 3 losers (as in weight). That from an accounting angle is bizarre and I get cashing in but it looks pretty fraudulent because she is taking it via PayPal gifting and not services. Meaning as a customer; you are not insured, you gifted the money meaning you are losing that right.

She has been honest from the start about the fact that this is not 100% personalized program.
You should watch her video on the actual program because you made some assumptions that might not be correct (edited* because I didn't phrase it fairly). The only strange point I agree with is the Paypal gift vs services, but everything else has a reasonable explanation.

Spoiler: A little sperging

She is running what mostly seems like a "transformation" competition, not necessarily weight loss. The training and nutrition plans are based on specific caloric intake that can be easily determined by weight, height, and age. This stuff can be "easily" done, but truth is some people prefer having someone giving them a plan.

The only hot waters you can land on would be caused if she claimed to be a doctor, nutritionist etc, or if she didn't have you sign the usual disclaimers. You and your doctor are the ones who need to determine if you are fit enough to participate in this type of program, that responsibility cannot fall on Chikara, that is true whether you work with a personal trainer irl or join a gym on your own. Also, there are limited spots because you can contact her if you have any issues or if you are stuck. If she had more than 200 people participating it would be impossible to manage.

The currency choice is not unusual, I work in IT and we have developers who get paid in UK pounds, but live in other EU countries (it's just more money). Since the prize is in UK pounds and not in Bulgarian currency then it makes sense that you would pay the entering fee in UK pounds. I don't see why this is an issue.

 

[Smoovy Jay]

I find Ilona absolutely insufferable. Her reacts are just an excuse to drone on about herself and how strong willed and perfect she is.

 

[DCMediocre]

I find Ilona absolutely insufferable. Her reacts are just an excuse to drone on about herself and how strong willed and perfect she is.

She is different then those fat lolcow reactors that think they're better then ALR or Chantal at least Ilona walks the walk and talks the talk

 

[Smoovy Jay]

She is different then those fat lolcow reactors that think they're better then ALR or Chantal at least Ilona walks the walk and talks the talk

At the end of the day, she's still reacting to deathfats online.

 

[Freetimbit]

MTR is looking increasingly terrible since she started her reacts 10 months ago. Keep in mind she privately paid for a bypass a few years ago in Prague, followed by a tummy tuck and boob job.

 

[Red Mask]

She looks lopsided on the right pic.

 

[Goal Tendie]

I find Ilona absolutely insufferable. Her reacts are just an excuse to drone on about herself and how strong willed and perfect she is.

Ilona has become more and more difficult to watch.

Spoiler: Chikara sperging

Understandably, she's trying to get her platform sustainable without relying on the fatties, but she spends a good quarter of a lot of recent videos advertising stuff not related to the video you click on, and it's easy to tune out.

Her reactions, which she admits she does just because they bring the views - can tell she's not into it, often ending early and/or getting info wrong, which she may or may not correct next time.

Vlogs, where she talks kind of a lot about food and how she's either very happy with her body or depressed about it, or depressed about the house she's living in.

Dog rescue, where she came in and seemed to kind of shoehorn herself into a place which was doing things a certain way, seeming unprepared or unaware of a lot of what's going on, awkwardly communicating with the people she's working with and stepping in to do things the way she sees fit when she has minimal understanding of veterinary issues... and that stopped getting updated 2 weeks ago on the main channel, which is weird since she was taking money for that. Maybe she's keeping donors updated in a different place now?

And then she has a second channel doing a lot of weird diets which just seems like playing with fire for an admitted former bulimic.

It's all so scattered.

 

[440088]

Oh, are we sperging about ilona now? Calling her a scammer is just flat out lying and reaching. She’s running a fitness group online behind a paywall. That’s not “scamming” and it’s super common. My thoughts will offend you, everyday damn fitness, that nuts on your chin guy that Chantal signed up for, the list is endless. Any major weight loss YouTuber seemingly is or has in the past ran some kind of fitness group or sold fitness plans or some shit. It’s their gig. And at the beginning of most of her videos she literally has a disclaimer in big red letters that says she is not a doctor or a nutritionist ect... it’s kind of a meme on her channel. Yes, maybe my fanboy is coming out a little bit. If you wanna see somebody shill their program look at that nuts on your chin guy. I had to unsubscribe from him because all his videos - and I mean all of them - have no content other then shilling his program. At least ilona does calorie counting and reactions and vlogs and shit. She does a lot of shilling don’t get me wrong. But nowhere near the level other fitness heads do it. And she’s pretty open about all of it. I don’t know man. Like I said. Maybe I’m being a fanboy fag. But ilona has some of the highest quality coaching compared to her other “content creators”. She shills tastefully and openly. Her reactions are focused on informative calorie counting and not “bullying”. She takes criticism fairly well and digests information she’s wrong about just as well too. And how can you look at her and not think she doesn’t know how to fucking lift? She’s shredded. Anyways, stan ilona. I rest my case your honor. LMFAO.

 

[Artificial Baits]

Dog rescue, where she came in and seemed to kind of shoehorn herself into a place which was doing things a certain way, seeming unprepared or unaware of a lot of what's going on, awkwardly communicating with the people she's working with and stepping in to do things the way she sees fit when she has minimal understanding of veterinary issues..

I didn't know you had to be fluent in a language or be a medically trained in order to do volunteering work?

Edit to add: I am sure moving countries, learning new languages and renovating a house is difficult and depressing at times. At least she is doing something productive with her time and when she does shelter updates she talks about the expenses. She also posts updates on Instagram whenever she goes there

 

[Iusedtobeacat]

MTR is looking increasingly terrible since she started her reacts 10 months ago. Keep in mind she privately paid for a bypass a few years ago in Prague, followed by a tummy tuck and boob job.View attachment 1997414

Money not well spent.

 

[Kier Starmer]

The prize she said is in dollars, which is somewhat unusual but I assume its because $200 is £143. Yeah post I looked at that video because she is changing stuff up. "Transformation" is a legal get out from "weight loss" a clever one but equally as stupid because by some laws you are protected but in cross-examination, its murky.

She opens up the video with a quote from Gerrard Way btw, from My Chemical Romance. (cringe)

Her message with the program is bizarre, so she starts the second round on April 5th but says this "I am starting it then so you can start healthy eating and exercising." Wasn't the program about teaching you to healthily eat and exercise because that is a weird message to put out, you are basically giving her money with nothing learnt.

Then she says it is about not losing weight but transformation (is she Frieza?) but parades images of weight loss and no testimonials. So how is there transformation if the viewer is seeing before and after an image used in weight loss since, you are not gaging their lifestyle.

Proceeds to talk about doing nutritional plans and suggestions whilst not being qualified to do so. You can say I lost this, I lost that but it is purely anecdotal. You are not qualified to do so and unlike the people a poster posted, they just show techniques and do not really do nutritional because that can get you sued.

I agree that these "fitness" channels should not do this shit in general because legally and ethically it is wrong. What Ilona is doing though is an outright fucking grift though. asking for the money to be gifted in the highest is downright shady considering it is not her country of residence. The amount of dipping would give DSP a hard on. I respect a hustle but remember these people parade as frauds essentially and remember she came hard for Charlie, who tried to scam for a Hawaii trip. Have some integrity at least.

As for MTR considering she got a tit job; she never shows them, so money well spent.

Apologies for late response

 

[Artificial Baits]

The prize she said is in dollars, which is somewhat unusual but I assume its because $200 is £143. Yeah post I looked at that video because she is changing stuff up. "Transformation" is a legal get out from "weight loss" a clever one but equally as stupid because by some laws you are protected but in cross-examination, its murky.

She opens up the video with a quote from Gerrard Way btw, from My Chemical Romance. (cringe)

Her message with the program is bizarre, so she starts the second round on April 5th but says this "I am starting it then so you can start healthy eating and exercising." Wasn't the program about teaching you to healthily eat and exercise because that is a weird message to put out, you are basically giving her money with nothing learnt.

Then she says it is about not losing weight but transformation (is she Frieza?) but parades images of weight loss and no testimonials. So how is there transformation if the viewer is seeing before and after an image used in weight loss since, you are not gaging their lifestyle.

Proceeds to talk about doing nutritional plans and suggestions whilst not being qualified to do so. You can say I lost this, I lost that but it is purely anecdotal. You are not qualified to do so and unlike the people a poster posted, they just show techniques and do not really do nutritional because that can get you sued.

I agree that these "fitness" channels should not do this shit in general because legally and ethically it is wrong. What Ilona is doing though is an outright fucking grift though. asking for the money to be gifted in the highest is downright shady considering it is not her country of residence. The amount of dipping would give DSP a hard on. I respect a hustle but remember these people parade as frauds essentially and remember she came hard for Charlie, who tried to scam for a Hawaii trip. Have some integrity at least.

As for MTR considering she got a tit job; she never shows them, so money well spent.

Apologies for late response

She has the transformation stories on her Instagram and I believe because of the competition she will start it from April. She also said she filmed all the exercises, that there is email support and weekly checkins. This is something most online fitness people do, so i fail to see why you believe she is not providing a service?

 

[RussianBlonde]

Chikara's recent video, well from Friday irked me. She is someone I usually have on in the background during walks and stuff but this video really rubbed me the wrong way.

First off - Chikara moved to Bulgaria, a relatively cheap/shithole country still reeling from communist occupation 30 years prior.

It is 2.28 Lev to 1 British Pound, So Chikara is doing this 8 week program called Phoenix Rising (much creative). The issue with this is she is not a dietician, a coach or nutritionist. So she is essentially running a scheme with no experience other than her own which as most of you are aware can land you in some really nasty hot water. As if someone is injured, is not happy or essentially is just incredibly disgruntled could investigate you.

The oddest thing is the cost and the conversions, so she is charging £50 for applications (saying there are limited spots to drive interest, which is pretty disingenuous). The UK is not her country of residence anymore though she is permanently in Bulgaria and started it when living in Bulgaria. Then offering $ prizes to the top 3 losers (as in weight). That from an accounting angle is bizarre and I get cashing in but it looks pretty fraudulent because she is taking it via PayPal gifting and not services. Meaning as a customer; you are not insured, you gifted the money meaning you are losing that right.

I get doing a hustle but doing fraud either way makes you look equally as slimy as the people you detract about. Also doing a weight loss program with no qualifications is just flat out wrong, even Obese2Beast does not do that because he knows that is disingenuous.

I like Chikara but I expected better and basic fraud makes you no better than Chantal or Amber.

I used to occasionally watch Shikara but she tried to slut shame Chantal and teach her about how she shouldnt hook up with anyone just for sex because it lacks self respect. Bitch please, which century are you from?

Also..MTR posted new video and it appears she wears partial denture (on top of being fat, bald and stupid).

 

[Iusedtobeacat]

MTR should just go find something else to do with her channel. She has gained weight, she's living in Saudi Arabia from what I have seen, as a British English teacher she is cashing in THOUSANDS, yes life is boring over there, but I'm sure she is getting paid way more than she's worth and considerably more than a school teacher would be paid in the UK doing her job. She should be concerned with her health and weight instead of spending it on useless surgeries, how about going to the gender-segregated gyms over there?? What's up with these fatties reacting to death fats, like haven't they seen themselves? What insight do they think they have that makes them any better than ALR and the rest of the lolcows. They have no control over their food intake either.
These people are delusional. Also, she's complaining about not having enough money on her community tab, what is she doing with that money? Her workplace pays for her accommodation, medical insurance, and visa expenses. The only thing she has to pay for is her food and maybe utilities & her income covers that I'm sure. They're also required to pay for her travel tickets & there's no alcohol over there cuz it's haram. So, what is she spending money on? She's lucky people don't speak English fluently over there and can't see her dumb channel. although even if they did I doubt they're gonna fire her cuz Human Rights is nonexistent, so it's a win-win situation for her.

 

[Fagary Michael]

Also..MTR posted new video and it appears she wears partial denture (on top of being fat, bald and stupid).

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So, she's missing a molar or two just like Chantal? Too many sweeties, teacups

 

[Red Mask]

 

[Confederate Fag]

When the reactmosphere has gotten so boring that farmers start investigating whether someone has dental work or not. Riveting milk we got here.

 

[DCMediocre]

I used to occasionally watch Shikara but she tried to slut shame Chantal and teach her about how she shouldnt hook up with anyone just for sex because it lacks self respect. Bitch please, which century are you from?

Also..MTR posted new video and it appears she wears partial denture (on top of being fat, bald and stupid).

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Having self worth and self respect for ones body and mental health is not slut shaming

 

[deputydogshit2.0]

Oh, are we sperging about ilona now? Calling her a scammer is just flat out lying and reaching. She’s running a fitness group online behind a paywall. That’s not “scamming” and it’s super common. My thoughts will offend you, everyday damn fitness, that nuts on your chin guy that Chantal signed up for, the list is endless. Any major weight loss YouTuber seemingly is or has in the past ran some kind of fitness group or sold fitness plans or some shit. It’s their gig. And at the beginning of most of her videos she literally has a disclaimer in big red letters that says she is not a doctor or a nutritionist ect... it’s kind of a meme on her channel. Yes, maybe my fanboy is coming out a little bit. If you wanna see somebody shill their program look at that nuts on your chin guy. I had to unsubscribe from him because all his videos - and I mean all of them - have no content other then shilling his program. At least ilona does calorie counting and reactions and vlogs and shit. She does a lot of shilling don’t get me wrong. But nowhere near the level other fitness heads do it. And she’s pretty open about all of it. I don’t know man. Like I said. Maybe I’m being a fanboy fag. But ilona has some of the highest quality coaching compared to her other “content creators”. She shills tastefully and openly. Her reactions are focused on informative calorie counting and not “bullying”. She takes criticism fairly well and digests information she’s wrong about just as well too. And how can you look at her and not think she doesn’t know how to fucking lift? She’s shredded. Anyways, stan ilona. I rest my case your honor. LMFAO.

I’d also like to add she did start the fitness group before she left England. There is nothing scammy about the fact she’s charging/awarding money in Euros or Pounds or whatever.

 

[DC "down with the kids"]

I didn't think it were possible, but French Fried Gorl has managed to beat Charlie in the smugness scale. Watching her in this video, getting drunk and losing her mind over Clifford is top tier cringe! Apparently she used to love him, but just like the losers before has turned bitter and twisted when she didn't get the attention she wanted. This is a train wreck waiting to happen.

https://youtu.be/ifDJvTmcc6g

Can't seem to embed the video, sorry