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RLM as alt-right.
Also kind of makes sense. I mean... I dunno, I feel like Boba wouldn't CHANGE the armor, being that it is his personal armor and all, and it's essentially a cultural piece, as well. He's probably gotten so attached to the standard Green-Red design that he wouldn't change it in a million years.

I wonder why he changed it from Silver-Blue to Green-Red whenever he got Jango's armor, though.
Probably so he didn't have to see the mental image of Mace decapitating his dad. I mean, I'd probably give a new paint job too if that happened too. Though tbh I'd probably just slowly earn and replace the armor so I don't have to wear the dead dad's armor.
 
Probably so he didn't have to see the mental image of Mace decapitating his dad. I mean, I'd probably give a new paint job too if that happened too. Though tbh I'd probably just slowly earn and replace the armor so I don't have to wear the dead dad's armor.
Armor being a type of family heirloom is a touchy subject and it being worned by someone like Jango had imbued major gravitas to it. Sure people may not know which Fett is wearing it but they do know it is a Fett wearing it. Well prior to Wendig shitting all over it.
 
Bob Justman of Star Trek fame put it best:

"Here we are in the outer reaches of our galaxy and who should Captain Kirk run into, but good old Kor – an adversary that he has encountered before and with whom he has been unable to get very far. Just think of it – billions of stars and millions of Class M-type planets and who should he run into, but a fella he has had trouble with before. No wonder Kor doesn’t recognize him at first. The coincidence is so astounding, that he must feel certain that it couldn’t possibly have happened."

Sometimes having characters meet up is understandable, especially when they have a common connecting factor and it adds some amusing interactions. But in Filoni shit, encounters are always convenient coincidences that manage to push the limit of expectations just for the sake of having his OCs front and center in one way or another. Its much like how the early comics would frequently use the same set of bounty hunters from ESB when bounty hunters were needed, but thankfully it was becoming more stable when they had Bossk and Dengar "retire" for the most part and IG-88's last double sacrifice himself, but Filoni then re-enforced it further by having them show up regularly in Filoni Wars, especially Bossk. Although that whole underground ninja planet arc was possibly just promoting the cancelled 1313 game. Maybe...
I really like the episode "Bounty." Seeing Bossk and Dengar was unexpected but cool at the time, I liked the droid and the Theelin girl, and I really liked that it opened up a new path for Ventress. I was ultimately really disappointed that long term they decided to kill her off in Dark Disciple.

Which brings me to my next big problem of Filoni in general and post-Disney in particular "making the universe smaller." They kill Ventress, kill most of the Inquisitors and the Inquisitorious branch is dissolved, throw Thrawn and Pelleon into the deep unknown, Aurra Sing is unceremoniously killed offscreen by an actor that clearly doesn't even want to be in these movies, Interdictor Cruisers are apparently discontinued after Yavin, the TIE Advanced and Defender make early prototype appearances but are discontinued afterwards - all those things that were well known or a part of the old EU are introduced but then unceremoniously eliminated so we're pretty much left only with whatever appeared directly in the Original Trilogy or with whatever Disney craps out later. The new "Expanded Universe" winds up being unbelievably smaller compared to what we had before.

And the worst part is the reasoning we hear from the story group and producers -"we figured it wouldn't make sense to have these things around during the Original Trilogy, otherwise they would've made an impact on the movies." The fuck? The original EU had these things around and it was clearly never thought that they impacted the movies! Part of me suspects that there's a deliberate effort at work to poke a thumb in the eye of the older fans.
 
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And the worst part is the reasoning we hear from the story group and producers -"we figured it wouldn't make sense to have these things around during the Original Trilogy, otherwise they would've made an impact on the movies."
But it's okay for Filoni to have Ahsoka be alive during the Original Trilogy and create plot holes when George had wanted her to die in The Clone Wars as she wasn't in those movies.
 
But it's okay for Filoni to have Ahsoka be alive during the Original Trilogy and create plot holes when George had wanted her to die in The Clone Wars as she wasn't in those movies.
Oh, but of course! Even better when Filoni ultimately winds up having her become what Luke should've been!
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Again, I don't hate/dislike the character, but I really think she's been overemphasized, especially compared to what happened to the OT trio in the sequel trilogy. They get the shaft, while Filoni's own creation survives every challenge/turmoil and comes out stronger and wiser.

It'd be like if, say, the DC Universe had Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman wind up dying as failures and their accomplishments undone, and someone like, say, Batgirl/Oracle wound up becoming the legendary and accomplished sage figure everyone knew about and looked up to.
...Aw shit, I just gave the current writers at DC an idea, didn't I?
 
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RLM as alt-right.
Probably so he didn't have to see the mental image of Mace decapitating his dad. I mean, I'd probably give a new paint job too if that happened too. Though tbh I'd probably just slowly earn and replace the armor so I don't have to wear the dead dad's armor.
I liked the idea from Open Seasons that they were two separate armors.
But, that isn't canon anymore. (:_(
 
It's still canon, it's just not Disney canon which doesn't matter because Disney has absolutely no consistency in its canon.
And I still remember when the old EU was decanonized, people saying it was great because it was starting to get messy, and under new management things could be cleaned up, kind of like how DC rearranged their canon in the Crisis on Infinite Earths. And yet in six years Disney Wars has managed to make the "new" canon more muddled and contradictory than the "old" managed to do in 30+.
 
I think they mean his voice actor or whatever. I can't really give enough fucks about that shitty Emperor clone/knockoff.
Also...

1: Ahsoka and Obi-Wan will be featured as characters in that shitty Calrissian Andor/Rogue One-spinoff show because forcing Ahsoka into everything and trying to establish a forced cinematic streaming universe is all these people can think of.

2: The design for Boba's lady servant 'Fennec' in the Bad Batch was leaked and she looks pretty shitty tbh.
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Reminds me of the Nostalgia Chick but blockier. And they have her wearing the exact same outfit and hair despite the show taking place almost 30 years before the Mandalorian. Peak creativity there, Filoni frens. :stress:
Guess they though audiences would be too dumb to be able to recognize her or didn't think the character was memorable enough.
That model doesn't look finished.
 
Yeah but with that is excusable since its the whole "in honor of me dad's legacy" kind of shit and the armor has endured for all its wear and tear and is made of valuable stuff, which in Disney shit is made incredibly inconsistent because they just had Boba abandon the armor for no reason only to reclaim it almost a decade later from out of nowhere, and no reasons or explanations are ever given other than because Filoni wanted it to be cool and mysterious and not contradict Chuck Windbag's shitty novels. Anyway, here we have a girl wearing a basic outfit that she's been wearing along with exact same hair accessories for 35 years while she has not aged a bit. In contrast Chewbacca in ROTS looking almost identical to the OT is excusable since wookiees live for centuries, so 30 years is like a drop in the bucket for them, and they're pretty much nudists.

Not disagreeing with you that LITERALLY the exact same shit 35 years later with zero additions (no trophies, no battle damage, no momentos, no upgrades) is lazy character design. But its not out of line for Star Wars.

The immediate counter point is all the ESB bounty hunters were constrained by budgets and costume technology of the 70s/80, while that character design has only the limits of computer graphics. And despite that, Bobba's armor has character and Fennec is super bland.

Anyway, here we have a girl [...] with exact same hair [ ... ] for 35 years

All I'm getting from this is she's been dating the same guy for 35 years with no breakups. That's pretty impressive
 
Making Soontir Fel canon means fuck all if he's never going to have his romance with Wynessa Starflare (and by proxy, spark a sense of animosity with her cousin, Wedge Antilles), retain his ties to the Empire of the Hand, or ever produces a son in the form of Jagged Fel, who's arguably even more important for the long-term romance he fosters with one Jaina Solo, who for obvious reasons can never be part of the new continuity under any circumstances. This is what the slack-jawed canon monkeys over at the short bus that is the Story Group don't understand about canonizing characters: it's not the character themselves that people appreciate and love, it was the stories, relationships and vital narrative events surrounding that character. Without those things, the soul and integrity of what made the character great, the reason why readers are attached to the character AT ALL, are no longer present...and they're only the same character in name only, a hollow shell of their EU self that readers grew to love and cherish.

This is also why canonizing the likes of Dash Rendar is utterly pointless. If Shadows of the Empire or Shadow Games never happened, then fans aren't going to give a shit. It's the stories that make them worth a shit, not the sheer virtue of existing.
 
This is what the slack-jawed canon monkeys over at the short bus that is the Story Group don't understand about canonizing characters: it's not the character themselves that people appreciate and love, it was the stories, relationships and vital narrative events surrounding that character. Without those things, the soul and integrity of what made the character great, the reason why readers are attached to the character AT ALL, are no longer present...and they're only the same character in name only, a hollow shell of their EU self that readers grew to love and cherish.
Thrawn is a prime example of this.

Sure, you can introduce him to the new canon with Rebels, but having him be thwarted by Space Aladdin and some space whales undermines what EU fans liked about his character.

And now they're going to make a half-assed Heir to the Empire adaptation in Ahsoka.
 
So it looks like Gina's appearance in that one Bear Grylls' episode got axed too... Never say there isn't a Disney blacklist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0CjVoXrE34

And that cunt Pablo Hidalgo ironically laughed at her getting fired back in February despite being let go himself just a little bit before that and getting his Mando guide book cancelled because of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOb0SAsmJH8
Did she wear that outfit in the first season?
I don't like the design of her face, it's like they're trying to get closer to the shitty SW Rebels art style. She doesn't even look like Ming-Na. At least her costume is highly-detailed and not drawn on a 3D stick figure.
They're using the same animation team as Rebels and S7 of Filoni Wars, which is why a lot of assets resemble it. The recycling is even notable in that they're using Zygerrians with the exact same tech and animals as their debut episode, same textures and all too to avoid over spending, so we know that much like Rebels and Resistance this show won't have a wide variety of locations and characters since Disney was way less loose with the budget than George.

And speaking of George... he and his wife did a thing a few months ago which has started trending as of yesterday.


Anyway, on a more notable note, Filoni has very little time to work on Bad Batch apparently, so he's left its writing and directing to Jennifer Corbett and Brad Rau, the two geniuses behind the failures that were the Resistance cartoon (the shitty CGI tie-in to TLJ and IX) and Forces of Destiny (the all-female SW shorts that were an attempt at making SW Barbies). So this already seems to be doomed from the get-go.
Not disagreeing with you that LITERALLY the exact same shit 35 years later with zero additions (no trophies, no battle damage, no momentos, no upgrades) is lazy character design. But its not out of line for Star Wars.

The immediate counter point is all the ESB bounty hunters were constrained by budgets and costume technology of the 70s/80, while that character design has only the limits of computer graphics. And despite that, Bobba's armor has character and Fennec is super bland.



All I'm getting from this is she's been dating the same guy for 35 years with no breakups. That's pretty impressive
True, but even so, the likes of Dengar (while still aesthetically similar) was made younger and given a somewhat different outfit for the pre-Disney Filoni Wars, while 'Fennec' over here is still completely unchanged even facially and is even wearing the same bucket-construction helmet she wore in Mando despite the 30+ year gap. Not even a variation of it. Its the same get up, weapons, clothing and face.
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Also since she is an adult in this show its gonna be hella awkward having this lady run into little boy Boba (and you know they'll do it), a dude she's fucking in Disney crap 30 years later. Overall, all this does is cement how fucking boring and bland the character is that they felt the need to leave her completely unchanged out of fear that no one would know who she is otherwise, despite that I'm pretty sure normalfags in general still won't know or care who she is.
That model doesn't look finished.
And surprisingly it is. This show seems to have red flags all over. But the most telling thing is the fact, that based on current summaries of the show, the clone main characters have chosen to become mercenaries instead of keeping them imperial characters and giving audiences a show that shows life on the Imperial side, but much like with Squadrons and EAfront II, Disney loathes the idea of letting the audiences connect with imperial characters unless they're victimized or defect. And Filoni's brain chip ensures that imperial clones with free will are never seen again in Disney shit. Although, its possible the mercenary shit might be a fake out since someone I know told me that the Disney Marvel comics feature stormtroopers who might be these Bad Batch assholes, but I highly doubt it since aside from Dr. Aphra appearing in a crappy mobile game and novels, the elements from the shitty new Marvel comics have remained largely ignored by the rest of Disney Wars for the most part afaik outside of shitty reference books.
Oh, but of course! Even better when Filoni ultimately winds up having her become what Luke should've been!
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Again, I don't hate/dislike the character, but I really think she's been overemphasized, especially compared to what happened to the OT trio in the sequel trilogy. They get the shaft, while Filoni's own creation survives every challenge/turmoil and comes out stronger and wiser.

It'd be like if, say, the DC Universe had Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman wind up dying as failures and their accomplishments undone, and someone like, say, Batgirl/Oracle wound up becoming the legendary and accomplished sage figure everyone knew about and looked up to.
...Aw shit, I just gave the current writers at DC an idea, didn't I?
This pretty much sums up the whole issue with Ahsoka perfectly, but many just prefer to outright deny or justify how weird it is that the sidekick from that one cartoon from 2008 is now the linchpin and heart of the franchise. That's like if Luke, Han and Leia had been killed off in Crucible only to have Ken Palpatine show up through a time portal to reveal that he has become the alpha-omega jedi and will watch over the universe from now on.

Filoni trying to turn Ahsoka into the SW Gandalf just makes this even more shamelessly noticeable.
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(Yes Dave, because everyone was worried about Ahsoka and not about the state of the galaxy, the ruined New Republic, the death of the Jedi and the Sith, and the fact that the Skywalkers and Solos got jilted and have been left without fucking heirs)

Or like how they cement Ahsoka and the Filoni OC crew as the true founders of the Rebellion with Leia essentially being just a glorified cameo who just got caught all the time, with Ahsoka even replacing Bel Iblis and others as the jedi who helped the Organas get the Rebellion started.

I really like the episode "Bounty." Seeing Bossk and Dengar was unexpected but cool at the time, I liked the droid and the Theelin girl, and I really liked that it opened up a new path for Ventress. I was ultimately really disappointed that long term they decided to kill her off in Dark Disciple.

Which brings me to my next big problem of Filoni in general and post-Disney in particular "making the universe smaller." They kill Ventress, kill most of the Inquisitors and the Inquisitorious branch is dissolved, throw Thrawn and Pelleon into the deep unknown, Aurra Sing is unceremoniously killed offscreen by an actor that clearly doesn't even want to be in these movies, Interdictor Cruisers are apparently discontinued after Yavin, the TIE Advanced and Defender make early prototype appearances but are discontinued afterwards - all those things that were well known or a part of the old EU are introduced but then unceremoniously eliminated so we're pretty much left only with whatever appeared directly in the Original Trilogy or with whatever Disney craps out later. The new "Expanded Universe" winds up being unbelievably smaller compared to what we had before.

And the worst part is the reasoning we hear from the story group and producers -"we figured it wouldn't make sense to have these things around during the Original Trilogy, otherwise they would've made an impact on the movies." The fuck? The original EU had these things around and it was clearly never thought that they impacted the movies! Part of me suspects that there's a deliberate effort at work to poke a thumb in the eye of the older fans.
It was pretty much Filoni trying to push the whole "Legends" narrative which he even forced into the dialogue of the show by having Ahsoka say "there is truth in Legends", but they're ultimately not true as far as Disney and him are concerned, so they showcase a bunch of stuff from the old canon then have said stuff destroyed, erased or humiliated to explain why they never appear again or why you shouldn't care about them in order to do a "they did exist (sort of) but everything you know about them is wrong", like Droids, Thrawn, the B-Wing, KOTOR, Malachor V, or replacing Darth Traya with Filoni's donut steal "Darth Tanis", even though all that does is basically make them be completely unrelated to the originals, only sharing names and/or appearances for the sake of clickbait. I could go on, but @Mississippi Motorboater already said it perfectly while I was writing this.
Making Soontir Fel canon means fuck all if he's never going to have his romance with Wynessa Starflare (and by proxy, spark a sense of animosity with her cousin, Wedge Antilles), retain his ties to the Empire of the Hand, or ever produces a son in the form of Jagged Fel, who's arguably even more important for the long-term romance he fosters with one Jaina Solo, who for obvious reasons can never be part of the new continuity under any circumstances. This is what the slack-jawed canon monkeys over at the short bus that is the Story Group don't understand about canonizing characters: it's not the character themselves that people appreciate and love, it was the stories, relationships and vital narrative events surrounding that character. Without those things, the soul and integrity of what made the character great, the reason why readers are attached to the character AT ALL, are no longer present...and they're only the same character in name only, a hollow shell of their EU self that readers grew to love and cherish.

This is also why canonizing the likes of Dash Rendar is utterly pointless. If Shadows of the Empire or Shadow Games never happened, then fans aren't going to give a shit. It's the stories that make them worth a shit, not the sheer virtue of existing.
That's pretty much what Disney fails to grasp. These corporate suits think names and IPs make the characters and not the stories themselves. Without the events that build and mold them they are nothing. And for some reason they are incapable of wrapping that notion around their heads. Like how they think Galaxy's Edge would be the ideal SW park just because it has the SW logo on it and a pseudo-copy of the Falcon.
I want The Book of Boba Fett to show how Dengar becomes Rothgar Deng to further rub it in that Filoni Wars isn't going to retcon the Sequel Trilogy to troll The Fandom Menace.

Dengar's fate under Disney perfectly embodies the overall state of the franchise while under KK's run tbh, much like with the OT gang and Thrawn. They butcher the character beyond recognition and make him a miserable and broken shell of what he used to be whose life went in the completely opposite direction of his original counterpart. Under Disney he just becomes a soulless and broken monstrosity addicted to cybernetics, murder and greed, all his traits flanderized to the extreme. In contrast to his original counterpart who managed to rediscover his humanity, find new purpose and even settle down through actual growth and development.
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Making Soontir Fel canon means fuck all if he's never going to have his romance with Wynessa Starflare (and by proxy, spark a sense of animosity with her cousin, Wedge Antilles), retain his ties to the Empire of the Hand, or ever produces a son in the form of Jagged Fel, who's arguably even more important for the long-term romance he fosters with one Jaina Solo, who for obvious reasons can never be part of the new continuity under any circumstances. This is what the slack-jawed canon monkeys over at the short bus that is the Story Group don't understand about canonizing characters: it's not the character themselves that people appreciate and love, it was the stories, relationships and vital narrative events surrounding that character. Without those things, the soul and integrity of what made the character great, the reason why readers are attached to the character AT ALL, are no longer present...and they're only the same character in name only, a hollow shell of their EU self that readers grew to love and cherish.

This is also why canonizing the likes of Dash Rendar is utterly pointless. If Shadows of the Empire or Shadow Games never happened, then fans aren't going to give a shit. It's the stories that make them worth a shit, not the sheer virtue of existing.

Sorry I was too busy consuming product and/or getting excited for next product to read all that text.
Did you see they're making a Luke from the final 30 seconds of the Mandalorian figure? I have one on preorder, that's PROOF disney cares about the fan and is ready to decanonize the sequels.

All of them. And at this point, I want cancel culture to red/black pill everyone so they can see what these Leftists are like.

That stone toss about the next under the wheel deciding cancel culture has gone too far is more accurate by the day.
I disagree with Bill Maher about a lot of things, but I'll give him props for calling it out when its not hovering over his head.
 
Anyway, on a more notable note, Filoni has very little time to work on Bad Batch apparently, so he's left its writing and directing to Jennifer Corbett and Brad Rau, the two geniuses behind the failures that were the Resistance cartoon and Forces of Destiny
Holy fuck, that show is going to be concentrated ass. I can't wait to see the gradual look of horror on the faces of Filoni Fags when they tune in for what they believe to be the next great seminal work of their Lord and Savior, only to watch it turn into narrative drivel of the highest order.

I'm unironically looking forward to this now, just for the delicious amounts of disappointment. "Best time to be a Star Wars fan" indeed, motherfuckers.
 
Holy fuck, that show is going to be concentrated ass. I can't wait to see the gradual look of horror on the faces of Filoni Fags when they tune in for what they believe to be the next great seminal work of their Lord and Savior, only to watch it turn into narrative drivel of the highest order.

I'm unironically looking forward to this now, just for the delicious amounts of disappointment. "Best time to be a Star Wars fan" indeed, motherfuckers.
Oh they'll just cope superhard and say "FUCK ME OVER HARDER FILONI THIS SHIT IS ACTUALLY GOOD", thus once again proving that Star Wars fans in general have less dignity than full blown drug addicts that willingly let themselves become human cattle for more crack.

And I'm actually baffled on how come it's so hard for Wolf-Fucker to invent new characters given how bad he is at widening a plot. It's making me suspect that he didn't even make his own characters and very likely just took George's proto-designs and traced them given how reluctant he is with it.
 
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