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He went to the butcher Dr. Bart Van De ven. This guy is terrible. Total pretentious twink before all this, and an even more insufferable troon afterward. It's amazing what fags will go through to secure that straight dick.
It is the bimbofication. Troons and other maladjusted males favor the kind of anime that feature high-pitched, clumsy girls with infantile faces, huge tits, and cat ears that complement their dependent demeanor befitting a house pet.Unsupported random theory: Anime attracts mentally ill people. I have no solid proof of it, but it checks out with my personal experiences. Because it seems all troons love the cute desu anime, and other mentally ill shits like it too.
Cant remember if I said it in this thread or another but they always use this excuse as to why they should be viewed as women and its just telling that in reality they view black women as being manly. Most online "terfs" are, as they put, WOC and are called transphobic for speaking about sex based violence in their countries and communities.I found this on his tumblr https://realphilosophytube.tumblr.c...-do-you-and-other-trans-rights-activists-feel
Its like a wordier way to say "since black woman are woman men can be too!!!" which just feels hilarious coming from a british tranny.
Who, the Troon or the Dr?This guy is terrible.

First items that come up in the search suggestions is Bart Van de Ven botched. Reddit bubbles up with unhappy customers.He went to the butcher Dr. Bart Van De ven.



Sorry about that, but now that you mention it. Both! I've read that he's killed more than your average cosmetic surgeon and named a lot of troons.Who, the Troon or the Dr?![]()
Hank hill ass syndrome and its consequences have been a disaster for the trannies onnthe web.
Look at what he did to "Kellie" Maloney.Who, the Troon or the Dr?
First items that come up in the search suggestions is Bart Van de Ven botched. Reddit bubbles up with unhappy customers.
From Chad Chin to Slow Joe
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Hearsay, but claims are he ignores patients requests on their own surgery.
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"He shouted at me when I mentioned to him I'm not happy with the result. He also said his work on me is a "miracle" and "godsend" and I should be thankful for it. I think NOT, as my nerves are damaged and he TOOK so much bones off my jaw WITHOUT my CONSENT instead of just a little on the chin alone."
I have to do some digging, but I remember this Doc commenting on a review website of ones of his patients voicing his displeasure and he was actually revealing details on what he did.
EDIT: Found it, someone posted it on reddit. Trying to find the website I saw it on.
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Also in the thread it circles round back to bitching about Kathy Rumer "the Butch of Ardmore"![]()
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I have to disagree with you there, amputees really aren't that widely sexualized and even if they were it's a category that can mostly only exist in the form of erotic drawings or a few photoshopped images. I think I've only unintentionally seen anything even related to amputee porn a handful of times in my life.BIID is basically just an analogue of AGP. And, exactly like in AGPs it is not a real, singular condition, but a product of interactions between social factors and (usually) more generally abnormal behavior.
In fact, it's actually startling how similar they are. To start with you commonly see the same pattern of other-directed sexual attraction which combines with or leads to self-directed attraction. So, in AGPs this would be jacking off to tranny porn then progressively coming to self-insert as the tranny while in BIID, it's arousal by amputees/amputation to arousal of being/becoming an amputee. This then graduates into an obsession that metastasizes into the subject's non-sexual fantasies and eventually they develop a powerful affective association with the mere concept of being a woman/amputee.
And just like in troons, this confounds researchers who recognize the obviously sexual element, but also observe that it evidently isn't purely sexual. Also, just like in troons some researchers postulate elegant "not a mental illness" brain-related etiologies, but fail to turn up any real evidence beyond some vague non-specific associations here and there. In BIID this is even more true since you don't have the confounding from HSTS's or from HRT. There is a view that it has something to do with right parietal lobe (the sensory homunculus), but the evidence is weak and what does exist is probably just a case of fMRI studies not being very reliable. My bet is that even if statistical differences in right parietal lobe grey matter (causal relevance of which would still be less than certain) is reliably replicable it's probably just because BIID patients are generally unusual for other reasons.
To really drive home just how much these are essentially the same phenomenon: BIID probably has the same comorbidity associations. Firstly, they have lots of paraphilias (pedophilia, transvestism or other fetishism):
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As an aside note how many of them had exposure to amputees; being exposed to amputees is apparently a major risk factor, which again you would expect since where else would they get the idea from? This all seems very familiar:
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Additionally, a huge fraction of them also are troons or want to be troons, at least:
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It seems likely that they are more often psychotic. There is also a tentative association with personality disorders:
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No clear evidence of any association with obsessive-compulsive tendencies, but small literature and it can still be noted that in specific case studies patients are described as having an obsessive-compulsive relationship with amputation etc., which is basically what you see in troons as well except in connection to gender. I would bet that a thorough investigation would turn up some at least weak association.
Interestingly enough, I'm not aware of any association with autism in the literature. A PubMed search turns up no hits for any combination of BIID and autism or ASD. However, there is BIID sub-reddit (naturally) and they are apparently very autistic:
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Note also the "more likely to be gender diverse" thrown in there as well. I would also suspect that there is a association with autistic-ness more generally which would extend into the sub-clinical range.
Also there is - and I'm not shitting you on this - a kind of overlap with diaper fetishism where the individual wants to be rendered incontinent e.g. by having their spinal cord severed.
In conclusion, AGP-driven troonism is of the same family of psychological disorders as BIID; two different variants of identity-based coomsumption.
I broadly agree, but I'd more strongly emphasis the influence of post-pubertal social failure. This isn't really related to over-protective parenting or anything, but rather to the underlying psychological abnormalities present in a lot of troons. Autism or at least spergy tendencies loom large here. For a lot of autists, the end of childhood proper is difficult; they struggle with forming or even understanding romantic and sexual relationships, they often get bullied for making faux pas and bullying in general increases massively at around the same time. At the same time, making friends often becomes harder and they may become more conscious of their failure in this area. Further to this, the transition to secondary school denies them the ability to bond with younger kids which in my experience seems to be a very common coping mechanism for autists who struggle to make friends.
All of these factors, and particularly that last one can could drive a young autist to strongly idealize and want to return to their elementary school years when everything was better. Moreover, following from that last point you can very easily see how pedophilic tendencies could easily develop; feeling rejected or unable to associate with age-peers, they can easily look back at that say 4th grader who they played with when they were in 6th grade. And, like all romantic/sexual attractions that manifest at this stage, once they get into the brain, they don't tend to get out all that easily.
This story also explains why the phenomenon has both sexual and non-sexual components. I feel as though the diaper sort of stuff could be roughly analogous, just taken a few steps further. There may also be some abnormal sensory processing related stuff involved as well and there is something generally abnormal about autistic sexual development.
I have to disagree with you there, amputees really aren't that widely sexualized and even if they were it's a category that can mostly only exist in the form of erotic drawings or a few photoshopped images. I think I've only unintentionally seen anything even related to amputee porn a handful of times in my life.
I think that BIID is a genuine mental illness, akin to the actually dysphoric trannies. It's not an uncommon symptom of various psychoses that someone believes that some part of their body is fundamentally wrong. I've mentioned before that about a fifth of schizophrenics report gender dysphoria at some point in their lives, but I'd imagine that if the idea of, for example, having your right and left eyes switched was as culturally prevalent as the idea of switching gender roles (even before modern troonery there have been plenty of gender swap/crossdressing/subversions of accepted gender role stories in many cultures, possibly because of AGP/AAP) then we'd see plenty of eyeball dysphoria in these patients too.
And maybe some alleged BIID sufferers are just amputation fetishists, but if so I'm sure that that's mostly an extension of hardcore BDSM practitioners and I'd think (admittedly, I don't have hard data here) that anyone who seriously wants to be an amputee for fetish reasons would first work their way up through all the other BDSM body-mods/lifestyle things and would have long since moved past the need to be coy about their reasons for wanting to be a daruma.
Jesus, he looks like a harlequin baby
I think that a lot of autistic troons are separated from what Julian Jaynes calls the "Metaphor Me" - the internal perception of your own face / body. The trooning is their attempt to forego physical existence altogether and become a wispy, formless Internet sprite.
I love reading posts from gay trans guys, they are unequivocally straight girl af.
Grindr will ban gay dudes for saying that though. But somehow, they don't ban the straight chasers on Grindr looking for FtM-pussy. Go figure.I love reading posts from gay trans guys, they are unequivocally straight girl af.
They regularly post about being tempted to go on Tinder "female presenting" because they miss getting attention from men and if they do get attention from men, they don't like having to make any moves.
And of course complaining about being ghosted/transhobia in the gay community.
The dudes on Grindr don't want females, shocker.
So I was wrong about their YouTube,So one of the most interesting trannies I've seen on the internet has been Skiptty, they'll a ftm trans woman that specializes in fat fetish content. (art and animations)
(A self insert pic by their own words, there isn't any real life photo from my knowing so this is the closest thing we have, it's abit out dated tho)
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They started off on DA I think around 2017 or 2016 where they popular from their Weight gain Minecraft Alex pics, later down the line around the time they made thier first oc, "skibby" a fat lesbo cat girl, they moved on Twitter and deleted their DA for a unknown reason.
(Oldest design to the current design)
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I don't know too much about their personality other then they'll very depressed going off both their Twitter posts and their very monotone voice.
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If you're wondering, this isn't stuff I'm saying about them, this is stuff from a meme they made about themselves.
There isn't too much to them other then they'll a memer and they like traps.
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Yes this is the main character from Friday Night Funkin', they'll a really big fan of it to the point that they made a mod for it.
(Yes, this is another self insert oc which is weird because they have been able to make completely original ocs the past but still the music is pretty good)
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Now the funny thing about this mod is that they made it and released it under a different name, "atsuover" where they have both a YouTube and Twitter under the name with with no connection to their fetish one.
As a side thing, here's a video talking about their voice and them being trans.
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My Voice is an Enigma
whahubbawahwah???Twitter: https://twitter.com/atsuoverMusic: https://youtu.be/33wOCNJ0-vswww.youtube.com
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So there's a chance that they'll be people who play the mod and follow them without knowing anything about them and how they'll a chubby chaser, now that's completely fine cuz if you want to make something normal without bringing it back to your weird fetish stuff.
I just find it funny and chuckle at my brother when I see him playing the mod.
That's it, I have nothing else to say about them lel.
I’m not caught up so rate me late if this has been posted.
Debunking the ACLU's '4 Myths About Trans People'
Great article pointing out how their talking points are wrong.
I think a key point is that it's sort of independent of the "realness" or at least legitimacy/unjustness (however conceived). It's very much a plug-and-play type of pre-formed way of viewing the world that holds particular groups as marginalized in some broad, context-independent sort of way. It posits those groups as possessing privileged knowledge about their condition. Finally, it is assumed that the causes of said marginalization are external or at least extrinsic to the people themselves (i.e. they are absolved of their agency).How could black people or women advance any of their causes via "an individual standpoint"? Do you think every single black person or woman should have previously fought only against his or her own personal racist or sexist experiences, and ignored everyone else's? What a weird idea and they'd all still be slaves/unable to vote or own property in that case.
But nice of you to concede they had "some legitimate gripes".
Don't lump the current tranny idiocy in with the real actual issues that black people and women have historically faced. Trannies are not persecuted or discriminated against except by reason of the stupid things they have deliberately caused to happen to themselves. If a mentally ill dude puts on a wig and a dress and doesn't get the job interview, or a depressed girl gets her tits chopped off and then gay men won't date her, it is in no way synonymous to a black man being shot by police for being black, or a woman being raped by a gang of men on a bus because she's a woman. For just 2 simplified examples.
Just a few thoughts: I don't think it's all autism per se, since many of the life experiences I mentioned aren't exclusively autistic. You could, for example, experience social failure/bullying in early secondary school and end up ideating over primary school without the 'tism. More generally, part of autism's connection to trooning out is indirect; the assocation is mediated by factors that are directly-linked to autism. Life experiences like social failure/isolation, NEETdom and being a shut-in are the most obvious examples of this. There is also the higher rate of hypersexuality and the at least partially associated tendency to develop paraphilias more generally. Related, in a more complex way is also the higher rates of generic mental illness (depression, anxiety etc.).Great write-up, very interesting. I don't think autism is the only factor at work; many who go trans are autistic but many more aren't. Labelle and Stefonknee don't show many signs of autism, for instance.
First, my read on Stefonknee. Paul Wolshct grew up Catholic, got married and had 6 kids. I suspect he spent most of his life reflexively following the norms of the culture he lived in without much thought to what he wanted. He started a family and played the part of the responsible father because it's what he was supposed to do. As his family grew, the pressures and stresses increased, as did a question in the back of his mind about if this was what he really wanted.
At some point he tumbled down the rabbit hole of sissy porn. The part of the fantasy that appealed to him the most was being a little girl with no responsibilities, and thus Steffy was born. His crazy destructive behavior was the eruption of a lifetime of subconscious resentment toward the culture he felt he had been forced to go along with.
Labelle seems like a case of arrested development and denial. He was groomed by an older man, developed an attraction to men but can't bear to think of himself as gay. His child characters are an effort to live out the perfect trans childhood he didn't get to have, and now we know that a lot of his fantasy life, sexual and otherwise, is focused on returning to infancy. What I take from it is that his sexual traumas, probably combined with other bad memories, have made him want to flee from his reality as an adult gay man and return to childhood, the younger the better.
In the case of autistic troons with more "typical" trauma from puberty I can see your model checking out, but I don't see how it applies to the many men who are married with families and suddenly fall into fantasies of being a teenage girl or a child. Plenty of the younger transitioners also seem to have normal lives and healthy relationships before trooning. The desire to be extremely young, even prepubescent, seems to cut across different transgender psych profiles, you can see it in a lot of the trans widow stories.