The Mysterious Mr. Enter / Jonathan Rozanski's "Growing Around" - IndieGoGo Campaign Failed, John going off the deep end, "Turning Red" is ignorant about 9/11 (later retracted)

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

Screenshot of the video for the lazy like me who don't want to watch the whole thing:
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It's an improvement, definitely. The anatomy is still amateurish, but it's not too horrible. At least there's a little charm in the face compared to Enter's drawing.

I actually like Enter's version better. It's much cruder with less detail, but it's also less likely to give someone a heart attack when you say "Now draw this 8-12 times per second of film." If the lines were a little cleaner, it could pass for a Butch Hartman cartoon, trippy backgrounds and all.

 

[Computer Guardian]

Enter finally has made the final "Admiral Animations" with Pixar's Soul.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

Enter finally has made the final "Admiral Animations" with Pixar's Soul.

tbh, Enter should just quit as critic and move on. It's quite obvious he has grown tired of these shit.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

tbh, Enter should just quit as critic and move on. It's quite obvious he has grown tired of these shit.

Enter literally has nothing else since he is practically a man that made himself unemployable

 

[Petronella]

Enter finally has made the final "Admiral Animations" with Pixar's Soul.

It amazes me how little he can say in half a freaking hour.

 

[starborn427614]

It's like the cartoon community is not known for being intelligent.

You have to be pretty exceptional to criticize media for children in the first place, let alone follow (and in some cases) worship these caustic critics. Then again the same can be said for consooming the media in general so I'll have to lump myself in there.

 

[Clorox Cowboy]

You have to be pretty exceptional to criticize media for children in the first place, let alone follow (and in some cases) worship these caustic critics. Then again the same can be said for consooming the media in general so I'll have to lump myself in there.

All media is worthy of criticism and there is nothing wrong with having an interest in children's cartoons.
The problem is a lot of "cartoon critics" forget that they are not the target demographic and the shows need to be viewed in the context that they are designed for children. This isn't the same as giving them a pass because they are "just for kids," as many like to defend themselves with. But when you get to the point where Jerry Peet is getting upset that MLP redeemed its villain, or Enter complaining about Spongebob characters being sadistic and mean in a slapstick comedy you need to step back and ask yourself if this is a valid criticism.

To critique media of any sort aimed at children you need to engage with it differently than you would others, very few people in the "cartoon review" community do this.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

You have to be pretty exceptional to criticize media for children in the first place, let alone follow (and in some cases) worship these caustic critics. Then again the same can be said for consooming the media in general so I'll have to lump myself in there.

Honestly cartoon critics are fine but people like Enter and his ilk are god damn autistic because they take cartoons too personally compared to the average person which is probably most people don't care for them with the only cartoon reviewers gaining traction are people like PanPizza or Saberspark who are more humble and mature compared to Enter-tier reviewers.

 

[Delta Δ]

Enter finally has made the final "Admiral Animations" with Pixar's Soul.

Enter spends a good chunk of the video explaining that he can't like anything anymore for incredibly petty reasons, and that Soul is the greatest movie ever because it broke through his pettiness. He also gets to orgasm about body swap, again. Either way, what a pretentious douche.

 

[starborn427614]

All media is worthy of criticism and there is nothing wrong with having an interest in children's cartoons.
The problem is a lot of "cartoon critics" forget that they are not the target demographic and the shows need to be viewed in the context that they are designed for children. This isn't the same as giving them a pass because they are "just for kids," as many like to defend themselves with. But when you get to the point where Jerry Peet is getting upset that MLP redeemed its villain, or Enter complaining about Spongebob characters being sadistic and mean in a slapstick comedy you need to step back and ask yourself if this is a valid criticism.

To critique media of any sort aimed at children you need to engage with it differently than you would others, very few people in the "cartoon review" community do this.

Oh I agree, which is why I take issue with Enter etc. in the first place. Criticism is important, so it shouldn't be boiled down to bad faith takes or (god forbid) political shit. Nothing is above criticism and that's why it's important to criticize well.

 

[Icarus B. Nezzer]

All media is worthy of criticism and there is nothing wrong with having an interest in children's cartoons.
The problem is a lot of "cartoon critics" forget that they are not the target demographic and the shows need to be viewed in the context that they are designed for children. This isn't the same as giving them a pass because they are "just for kids," as many like to defend themselves with. But when you get to the point where Jerry Peet is getting upset that MLP redeemed its villain, or Enter complaining about Spongebob characters being sadistic and mean in a slapstick comedy you need to step back and ask yourself if this is a valid criticism.

To critique media of any sort aimed at children you need to engage with it differently than you would others, very few people in the "cartoon review" community do this.

And even when they ARE the target demographic (see Family Guy,) they turn around and judge it by the standards of "What if a child was watching?" It's got less to do with failing to understand the age difference and everything to do with never learning that most people aren't as immature and overly sensitive as they are. You probably shouldn't discuss the potential emotional burdens of a children's cartoon if you can't even handle the potential emotional burdens of a part-time job.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

Enter spends a good chunk of the video explaining that he can't like anything anymore for incredibly petty reasons, and that Soul is the greatest movie ever because it broke through his pettiness. He also gets to orgasm about body swap, again. Either way, what a pretentious douche.

I'm sure he was disappointed that the soul blob thing wasn't a male and the black guy wasn't a lady. He'd like it so much better if a little boy soul got put into a woman's body and had to wear the frilliest dress.

 

[Kier]

Lest this becomes the Consoomer thread all over again, having an interest in things is fine but taking anything more seriously then it is intended to be or feeling personal attacks from any product is just a recipe for disaster. This case is hilarious because it is over something so trivial as spongebob. But because that threat exists I'l cut the philosophy here and get back to Enter himself.

For the first part of the video, I almost caught myself agreeing with him. It is almost hard for me to watch some things these days because I can't stop the racing thoughts from completing the script for me in advance. Which is why.... and this is a hot take to Enter-types.... different genres is a good thing. Imagine getting burned out on a genre, especially one so limited as children's animations, after spending at least 20 years with it.... because it keeps doing the same thing. Children's movies do the same plots because there is not a whole lot of plots with genuine intrigue that are child appropriate and accessible. MLP is never going to go break the mold and go 3rd impact on you, and it shouldn't. Is this the dawn of him breaking out of nostalgic loops? Probably not because he's retarded.

But really dude, if you are tired of archetypes to a genre, go watch other genres. Get into media from other cultures if you are so inclined, and I don't mean xdxd watch Anime. I got into Korean war movies for a few months because it was a fun chance of pace when it came to the writing and cinematography and I genuinely did not know what would happen because I do not have the historical background.

"I ask why not, and I don't get an answer" *has a failed crowdfunding campaign showing lack of interest*

(Also living life for the small nice moments is not hedonism dipshit)
(Also 22 is seen falling rapidly towards Syria so 22 is fucking dead lmao git wreked)

 

[Mr Roboto]

Which is why.... and this is a hot take to Enter-types.... different genres is a good thing.

Definitely agree with this. There's so much great animated works out there and he's just set so many unnecessary limitations upon himself. There's so much great adult animation or great foreign-language animation that he just doesn't cover when it would really help broaden his reach.

 

[LiquidKid]

I really don't get the Superchats idiocy. He never answers these questions and they just keep sending him more money in the hopes that he will eventually.


I'd say that it's an improvement, but still not very good. The new version has better proportions IMO, and the head-shape is better. But the animu eyes are off-putting to me (The green is, like, neon. It's way too bright.) and the background is too distracting. Both versions have bad hands, but the "fixed" version is slightly better. Legs and foot anatomy are a little better in the "fixed" version as well. So, yeah, it's better than Enter's, but still looks like a teenager's dA submission.

we have long since established that “being better than enter” at anything isn’t a sign of competence, just a sign that you’re not the worst.

As for the critic topic, the problems with enter are similar to most internet reviewers. They come from a place of passion be it positive or negative rather than from a technical understanding of the subject. They all love to bash specific plot points but if actually tested on it, I doubt many would even get the mechanical reasons why said plot point was used, even if it wasn’t used well.
Animation in particular is interesting because if just how deep the collaboration is. More individual people impact the end product than live action by a massive margin, and as a result it’s harder to discern where a project went bad. Someone with intimate knowledge of the development process that is also capable of articulating their views would make for an excellent critic.
That’s also why you tend to see people in animation being more positive to les then savory projects. It’s not just ass kissing(though there is plenty of that) a lot of it is them looking at the aspect they are most familiar with and enjoying it. A background designer would have a different reception than a story artist, as would writers and voice actors.
Online critics though, most of them are just people who happen to like cartoons. Which is totally valid, they just lack a lot of understanding that’s vital to making a proper analysis.

that said, Enter is also a literal moron. His reviews would be bad regardless

 

[starborn427614]

we have long since established that “being better than enter” at anything isn’t a sign of competence, just a sign that you’re not the worst.

As for the critic topic, the problems with enter are similar to most internet reviewers. They come from a place of passion be it positive or negative rather than from a technical understanding of the subject. They all love to bash specific plot points but if actually tested on it, I doubt many would even get the mechanical reasons why said plot point was used, even if it wasn’t used well.
Animation in particular is interesting because if just how deep the collaboration is. More individual people impact the end product than live action by a massive margin, and as a result it’s harder to discern where a project went bad. Someone with intimate knowledge of the development process that is also capable of articulating their views would make for an excellent critic.
That’s also why you tend to see people in animation being more positive to les then savory projects. It’s not just ass kissing(though there is plenty of that) a lot of it is them looking at the aspect they are most familiar with and enjoying it. A background designer would have a different reception than a story artist, as would writers and voice actors.
Online critics though, most of them are just people who happen to like cartoons. Which is totally valid, they just lack a lot of understanding that’s vital to making a proper analysis.

that said, Enter is also a literal moron. His reviews would be bad regardless

There's also the issue of people supporting these critics simply because they target media (and in some cases the fans) that they don't like. I've enjoyed video essays that are more negative overall, but even then they're more constructive than caustic.

 

[LiquidKid]

There's also the issue of people supporting these critics simply because they target media (and in some cases the fans) that they don't like. I've enjoyed video essays that are more negative overall, but even then they're more constructive than caustic.

Oh I am positive the overwhelming majority of people who watch angry reviewers and rant channels are the same people who google “___ is bad” just to reaffirm their beliefs after someone has the audacity to like something they don’t approve of

 

[starborn427614]

Oh I am positive the overwhelming majority of people who watch angry reviewers and rant channels are the same people who google “___ is bad” just to reaffirm their beliefs after someone has the audacity to like something they don’t approve of

I'm actually a big fan of long-form essay content so I can't help but feel sorry for those who have to deal with being skipped over by people who got burned by Enter etc.'s takes on stuff. There's plenty of great media criticism online, but like with finding decent content on Youtube in general you have to dig through some shit to get to it first.

 

[LiquidKid]

I'm actually a big fan of long-form essay content so I can't help but feel sorry for those who have to deal with being skipped over by people who got burned by Enter etc.'s takes on stuff. There's plenty of great media criticism online, but like with finding decent content on Youtube in general you have to dig through some shit to get to it first.

I only ever listen to videos like that for content I was never going to watch or read myself.
Usually that allows me to remove personal biases and hopefully enjoy whatever is being examined

 

[ZiggySawdust]

So Cerra's gone completely down the shitter, it seems.