Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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There's this other thing you should learn about called strains. And reinfection can happen anyway.
A substrain that can subvert natural immunity implies a change in the spike protein, which would render vaccine immunity pointless anyways.

So this goes back to my initial question, through what mechanisms can a virus reinfect despite natural immunity but not despite vaccine immunity?
 
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It's very rare to actually die from it but it can fuck up your lungs. With the garbage masks that people breathe all day there probably are some people who will contract this otherwise-rare illness. It's a rare enough disease that it might be underdiagnosed, and the symptoms are similar enough to the Chinese virus that cases and deaths caused by it are being labeled as COVID-19.

Maybe, just like the paradise where the United States is not blowing up random villages in Afghanistan. Doubt I will ever get the vaccine (until I'm like 60 maybe) for the exact same reason I don't get flu shots, because why do I need a vaccination against a disease that has statistically zero risk to me? I'd rather get sick than deal with "whoops, you got an autoimmune disease from our gene thera--I mean vaccine!"
That's why I asked wjat would happen if people died from wearing them too much
 
People keep saying it, but I haven't seen any medical reports on the dangers being anywhere near worth talking about. Also, longer time on a vaccine means a longer lockdown. The paradise where we lift lockdown with no vaccine and let the old and infirm drop like flies isn't going to happen.
The problem is that, like thalidomide, we don't have the data of what it will do three or five years out. If they realized it was going to create a cluster of armless babies, they probably wouldn't have sold it. They stopped using it after the connection that it caused all the deformed babies, but if you were born without arms, they couldn't go back in time and prevent your mom from taking it.

Regular vaccines are viruses that have been killed or neutered, but then placed in your body where they are harmless, and then your immune system fights it like it was a living threat, and remembers how to fight that later.

This is injecting the infectious material into your cells, like an active virus, but hopefully just a small portion that codes for the spike protein, that hopefully hasn't degraded enough to make it unreadable or to become something unpredictable, so that hopefully that will be enough that your body will find anything with spikes like that dangerous.

It compromises a patch of your cells, which your body will then attack, but the mechanism is intervening on only partial data, it seems like the kind of thing that could cause autoimmune disease or cancer risk down the line. If the safety studies didn't have to be rushed under such heavy political pressure, it would be less intimidating.

We also thought insulating our houses and decorating our ceilings with asbestos was a great idea until we found out it caused cancer, too. None of us know the future, but we could decide to place our bets on where we think we stand the most risk. If your covid risk is only .3% death and the shot has like a .1% risk of death, they are still both small risks with uncertain future prospects, so it's down to which devil you most want to fight.

All vaccines have risks. It's about if you think your risk from an illness merits the risks of the vaccines. There are so many vaccines against illnesses that just aren't found in the country you live in that you never get, at least until you decide to take a tropical vacation and potentially create a need.
 
That's why I asked wjat would happen if people died from wearing them too much
Nothing will happen. A mask cultist dying of byssinosis won't receive a single news article about them, while something equally rare like a healthy (or "healthy") 20-something dropping dead of COVID-19 will have articles everywhere warning NO ONE IS SAFE YOU COULD DIE TOO. Unless said byssinosis-killed mask cultist is in their 20s, then they too will get an article but it will be described as a tragic COVID-19 death.

My guess is that byssinosis would be caused by particularly poorly made cotton masks (i.e. China-quality) or the ones some people wear made out of yarn and contracted by either someone who works 80 hours a week and has to wear a mask all 80 hours or the paranoid mask cultist type who won't even be in the presence of another person without one. It's probably already happened but again, it is a rare disease with symptoms that mimic a much more common disease with notoriously faulty tests.
 
People keep saying it, but I haven't seen any medical reports on the dangers being anywhere near worth talking about. Also, longer time on a vaccine means a longer lockdown. The paradise where we lift lockdown with no vaccine and let the old and infirm drop like flies isn't going to happen.
Have you consumed your bugs, citizen?
 
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Little anecdote about negative health effects from mask wearing:

I met a girl a little while back. She's in college and she's forced to wear masks all day (also double majoring so more class time than usual). I also noted that one time when she needed a mask, she busted out a dirty one from her purse. This was all whatever, didn't think anything of it at the time.

We were supposed to go out to dinner one week, and she said she was sick. OK, whatever. 5 days later, she's still sick and it's getting worse. We talked about it being china virus and she ended up going in for tests because it was getting bad. Negative to china virus, negative strep, negative basically all the other shit they test for. By the next day her throat is completely closed up and she can't talk or swallow. She went back to the hospital and they straight up put her on an IV antibiotic. Between that and the follow-up antibiotic course, it cleared her generic "Bacterial pharyngitis" right up.

Now I'm retarded so it took me a day or two to think about it, but I postulated to her that maybe this was a severe bacterial infection caused by re-using masks. She tended to agree, saying she had never had an infection like that in her life, and that she has to wear them all the time at school. She then also made a further connection: Alongside her at the ER on the second visit (for emergency antibiotic treatment) was another woman who presented with literally the same exact symptoms, who then also tested negative for all the usual stuff.

Mask-related bacterial pharyngitis? Just a data point or two I guess.

How many of these are we not hearing about? Not only do people reuse their shitty paper masks but they reuse all the other crap that passes as a "mask". We KNOW bacteria grows on that shit, like it grows on anything that's warm and wet. In a world of lies, only first principles and raw empiricism can shed any light on big questions of the day.
 
I change out a paper mask several times a day at work, I don't wear the same one for more than a few hours (I also have a medical condition that legitimately should make me exempt from this mask bullshit but work doesn't give a damn what my medical records say). I have had on several occasions that I do not "look good" and "sound awful" and "are you okay"; no I am legitimately depriving my body of oxygen to make this soulless corporation we work for feel good about itself for "combating" the scamdemic.

Someone else at my job got vaccinated, injection site is severely blistered and sore. Whoever the individual got the jab from refuses to give the 2nd dose until it clears up (it's been 3 weeks and it's still bad).
 
This is a disturbing trend I keep seeing. Some reddit commenter on a recent post was excited about how she and her mom were almost fully vaccinated, and then they'd finally be able to hug, and man, that's so fucking sad to me. It's been a whole year of this shit, and you know what I've done? Hugged my mom when I've seen her around holidays, and guess what? Neither of us are vaccinated, and we both work with the public to some extent, we both just follow very basic safety precautions. All these people talking about how excited they are to finally be "allowed" to hug family members just bums me out. This is the result of fear propaganda being pumped into your brain 24/7, where you need permission from the government to have contact with people. There's a healthy level of caution, and then there's living in a paranoid little bubble, far away from reality like these dorks. Just hug your mom, you fucking weirdos, but put on the masks if you really feel the need to
 
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Saw John Kerry was trending on Twitter for not wearing a mask on a flight, but it looks like he was legitimately eating something, so I'll give him a pass on that one. I am a fair man.
Nah. Reports are he put his mask under his chin as soon as he got past boarding. Then he did the one ear hang when he was reading his book.

He flew first class commercial, which would be a big come down from his usual private jet, so massive props for that.....gotta be fair.
 
If I had a twitter account, which I refuse to ever get, I would say this

"Ever since I got Covid, I got glass bones and paper skin. Every morning I break my legs, and every afternoon I break my arms. At night, I lie awake in agony until my heart attacks put me to sleep. Use your mask people and take your vaccines, people, or else more will end up like me...😭😭😭"
 
so we need to take the vax every month? lmao
Pfizer are looking at 3 shots instead of 2


Despite the 95 percent effectiveness at preventing coronavirus infection after two doses of its vaccine, Pfizer is now seeing what a third dose might do.

After your third shot you'll need the annual booster dose, or maybe a 6 monthly shot.

Also they're thinking about jacking up the prices for the vaccine, because of course they are.

Basically you'll be getting the 'vaccine' injections for the rest of your life. For a bad chest cold that only kills fat diabetics.

Or you could just catch the fucking coof. But no, having the actual antibodies against Covid is not as good as having the non antibodies for Covid from the vaccines.

That's science.
 
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