Arin Hanson / Egoraptor / Grump - "Hey I'm Grump!" of Game Grumps fame, hypocritical SJW doxer, shat himself recording a let's play

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In reality, the choice is, do I want to ruin this man's career?
To be fair, though - if whatever information you have on Dan were to get out (whether by you, one/more of his accusers or someone else in the know), the only person ruining Dan's career is Dan himself - as none of this apparent career damaging info would have been known if he didn't pull the stunts he had in the first place.

I'm not saying this because I think you should reveal anything (if you were told this info in confidence, it's more important to prove you're trustworthy by keeping that info confidential); I just don't agree with the idea that anyone other than Dan should be held accountable if his career suffered/ended if that info was leaked.
 
There is a chance that I could release it and it be a giant nothing burger, or it becomes swept under the rug like so many other controversies, but there is a non 0% chance that I could singlehandedly destroy everything this man has worked for in the last 10+ years of his life.
I mean, technically you are correct there is a non 0% chance, but I think it is incredibly unlikely. Like you said, there's already a bunch of accusations against Danny and it hasn't really accomplished anything. Grump fans have shown time and time again their loyalty is unwavering. I think we've also seen a fair amount of times with internet personalities that, even the most vicious of leaks, rarely keeps them down, let alone destroys their life.

My two cents, if you have proof Danny did something illegal, it's pretty messed up not to share it. If it's just petty drama or people making bad decisions because someone with e-fame was involved, eh, I guess it doesn't matter. And if it is something like that, I'd also advise you to take a step away from everything because it seems like you're overly invested. We're here to document and laugh, when you're talking about making agonizing decisions that you can't live with/feeling like you have the potential to ruin someone's life or whatever, that's a little much.
 
Basically, with all the stuff he has documented on Dan, he could potentially ruin his career. After long consideration he decided not to release it, because he feels Dan doesn't deserve it.
It's that he feels Dan doesn't deserve it, and that even if he did he'd just be in danger of it either going completely unnoticed or brushed under the rug because the Lovelies could watch Arin and Dan murder a man and still try to defend them or make the victim's lives a living hell. Which isn't unfair, given the track record of the Lovelies. That being said...
To be fair, though - if whatever information you have on Dan were to get out (whether by you, one/more of his accusers or someone else in the know), the only person ruining Dan's career is Dan himself - as none of this apparent career damaging info would have been known if he didn't pull the stunts he had in the first place.

I'm not saying this because I think you should reveal anything (if you were told this info in confidence, it's more important to prove you're trustworthy by keeping that info confidential); I just don't agree with the idea that anyone other than Dan should be held accountable if his career suffered/ended if that info was leaked.
Yeah, pretty much this: letting it hang around you like an albatross around your neck as if knowing that information was your fault is unwarranted: the only person at fault in making those decisions was Dan, not you. "Don't shoot the messenger" and all that. Then again, the Lovelies don't really care about who said what or not, because they're that bloodthirsty; you say "don't shoot the messenger", they say "how many bullets do I need to riddle them with" so what do I know?

They would only want to take down whoever said these things about their idols. I mean, for fuck's sake, they ardently defended Ben after he (totally jokingly haha :^) ) texted a minor for nudes and was meeting up with that kid IRL for [Unspecified Reason], and he wasn't even part of the main group. Now imagine if Dan got #MeToo'd. Of course that said, I'm pretty much with @Cyber Bowling on this: if it's something illegal, you should really share that because not sharing that is fucked, but if it's nothing but pump-and-dumps, then just let it be for now.

Again, would really help if everything surrounding these guys wasn't so vague.
 
My short answer is, no.

My long answer is, [way too fucking long]
I get the wanting the moral high ground, but then why fucking bother telling us you could ruin him? Go all in or don't, don't flaunt.

That said, fuck Dan I need a constant supply of depraved shit to laugh at and him ruining his own life with his garbage decisions is his own goddamn fault.
 
Blarg if you're not gonna tell any of us this CAREER SHATTERING info then you might as well shut up before you go the way of Dom Cruise because if you don't want to then doing these stupid posts are only gonna ruin your credibility
You're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.

This isn't career shattering info. It's simply 100% confirmation about the information that is already out there, that Dan has slept with his fans. Nothing more, nothing less. I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be. I already dealt with this situation once before with Ben, where I provided the first links to an unverified new account post, and the sheer terror of coming back and seeing not only that post blow up, but knowing that I could have ruined that man's career. It wasn't until people found more links and that it had been going on for years that I relaxed and enjoyed the train wreck.

Someone said I got too invested, and you're right. I did. And I only have myself to blame as I willingly put myself in this position. It's why I've taken such a massive step back. But when you get multiple messages from random people for months stating that you're lying and making things up because Dan would never do such a thing, and you have something that instantly prove them wrong, but you can't talk about it, it 100% starts to wear on you. I used to wonder why Ding Dong kept coming to RantGrumps to defend himself. I now know from first hand experience why.

But I've talked about this enough. I knew someone was eventually going to question me on this subject, so I'm glad we talked about it soon rather than later so we can rip off the band aid. I know people are upset about my decision, and I know that if the roles were reversed, I'd be upset too. I only say all this to explain my experience.

Moral of the story, after documenting shit for so long, and thinking that it could never happen to me, I found myself waste deep in shit. It's a classic tale that I'm sure many of you know or have seen before. Learn from my mistake, so you don't repeat it.
 
You're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.

This isn't career shattering info. It's simply 100% confirmation about the information that is already out there, that Dan has slept with his fans. Nothing more, nothing less. I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be. I already dealt with this situation once before with Ben, where I provided the first links to an unverified new account post, and the sheer terror of coming back and seeing not only that post blow up, but knowing that I could have ruined that man's career. It wasn't until people found more links and that it had been going on for years that I relaxed and enjoyed the train wreck.

Someone said I got too invested, and you're right. I did. And I only have myself to blame as I willingly put myself in this position. It's why I've taken such a massive step back. But when you get multiple messages from random people for months stating that you're lying and making things up because Dan would never do such a thing, and you have something that instantly prove them wrong, but you can't talk about it, it 100% starts to wear on you. I used to wonder why Ding Dong kept coming to RantGrumps to defend himself. I now know from first hand experience why.

But I've talked about this enough. I knew someone was eventually going to question me on this subject, so I'm glad we talked about it soon rather than later so we can rip off the band aid. I know people are upset about my decision, and I know that if the roles were reversed, I'd be upset too. I only say all this to explain my experience.

Moral of the story, after documenting shit for so long, and thinking that it could never happen to me, I found myself waste deep in shit. It's a classic tale that I'm sure many of you know or have seen before. Learn from my mistake, so you don't repeat it.

Summarize, you stupid arrogant bastard. No one is going to read your essay. You're not that fucking important.
 
You're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.

This isn't career shattering info. It's simply 100% confirmation about the information that is already out there, that Dan has slept with his fans. Nothing more, nothing less. I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be. I already dealt with this situation once before with Ben, where I provided the first links to an unverified new account post, and the sheer terror of coming back and seeing not only that post blow up, but knowing that I could have ruined that man's career. It wasn't until people found more links and that it had been going on for years that I relaxed and enjoyed the train wreck.

Someone said I got too invested, and you're right. I did. And I only have myself to blame as I willingly put myself in this position. It's why I've taken such a massive step back. But when you get multiple messages from random people for months stating that you're lying and making things up because Dan would never do such a thing, and you have something that instantly prove them wrong, but you can't talk about it, it 100% starts to wear on you. I used to wonder why Ding Dong kept coming to RantGrumps to defend himself. I now know from first hand experience why.

But I've talked about this enough. I knew someone was eventually going to question me on this subject, so I'm glad we talked about it soon rather than later so we can rip off the band aid. I know people are upset about my decision, and I know that if the roles were reversed, I'd be upset too. I only say all this to explain my experience.

Moral of the story, after documenting shit for so long, and thinking that it could never happen to me, I found myself waste deep in shit. It's a classic tale that I'm sure many of you know or have seen before. Learn from my mistake, so you don't repeat it.
Dump it or get the fuck out dumbass, you're just begging for attention now
 
You're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.
God this is the fucking dumbest thing I've seen in this entire thread and it's about ARIN of all people.
I have to agree with everyone here, it's Dan's fault 100% and either you put up or shut up.

He brought this on himself and we're just here to ridicule him as we see fit. Who the fuck cares how the Lovelies gonna react? It's nothing new to how they've reacted to every single controversy and criticism, which included Dan being a sex pest and Ben being wanting to fuck kids.

Stop being an attention seeking whore
 
You're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.

This isn't career shattering info. It's simply 100% confirmation about the information that is already out there, that Dan has slept with his fans. Nothing more, nothing less. I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be. I already dealt with this situation once before with Ben, where I provided the first links to an unverified new account post, and the sheer terror of coming back and seeing not only that post blow up, but knowing that I could have ruined that man's career. It wasn't until people found more links and that it had been going on for years that I relaxed and enjoyed the train wreck.

Someone said I got too invested, and you're right. I did. And I only have myself to blame as I willingly put myself in this position. It's why I've taken such a massive step back. But when you get multiple messages from random people for months stating that you're lying and making things up because Dan would never do such a thing, and you have something that instantly prove them wrong, but you can't talk about it, it 100% starts to wear on you. I used to wonder why Ding Dong kept coming to RantGrumps to defend himself. I now know from first hand experience why.

But I've talked about this enough. I knew someone was eventually going to question me on this subject, so I'm glad we talked about it soon rather than later so we can rip off the band aid. I know people are upset about my decision, and I know that if the roles were reversed, I'd be upset too. I only say all this to explain my experience.

Moral of the story, after documenting shit for so long, and thinking that it could never happen to me, I found myself waste deep in shit. It's a classic tale that I'm sure many of you know or have seen before. Learn from my mistake, so you don't repeat it.
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Oh, who ever could have predicted that the transplant from Reddit would go on long-winded monologues about how morally conflicting the release of certain incriminating info would be?

Seriously, Blarg, you did a great job with compiling the info, however absolutely no one here gives a shit about how you feel about it. If you don’t want to release the info, then that’s absolutely your choice. Just don’t go on long-winded rants about how it’d be a bad idea or some bullshit like that, we get it.
 
Pump and dumps is all it is. If this was something illegal, we would not be having this conversation.
You're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.

This isn't career shattering info. It's simply 100% confirmation about the information that is already out there, that Dan has slept with his fans. Nothing more, nothing less. I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be. I already dealt with this situation once before with Ben, where I provided the first links to an unverified new account post, and the sheer terror of coming back and seeing not only that post blow up, but knowing that I could have ruined that man's career. It wasn't until people found more links and that it had been going on for years that I relaxed and enjoyed the train wreck.

Someone said I got too invested, and you're right. I did. And I only have myself to blame as I willingly put myself in this position. It's why I've taken such a massive step back. But when you get multiple messages from random people for months stating that you're lying and making things up because Dan would never do such a thing, and you have something that instantly prove them wrong, but you can't talk about it, it 100% starts to wear on you. I used to wonder why Ding Dong kept coming to RantGrumps to defend himself. I now know from first hand experience why.

But I've talked about this enough. I knew someone was eventually going to question me on this subject, so I'm glad we talked about it soon rather than later so we can rip off the band aid. I know people are upset about my decision, and I know that if the roles were reversed, I'd be upset too. I only say all this to explain my experience.

Moral of the story, after documenting shit for so long, and thinking that it could never happen to me, I found myself waste deep in shit. It's a classic tale that I'm sure many of you know or have seen before. Learn from my mistake, so you don't repeat it.
Then why the secrecy? You're making it sound like the information on him was something big like him sexually assaulting one of the victims or dating a minor or something.

Everyone, including the Lovelies, already knows about the pump and dumps and ghosting, and plenty of people have come forward about that already with their own receipts. In fact, added receipts on top of the ones already shared would've been REALLY helpful in helping that shit gain traction, but now the Lovelies are absolutely going to ignore it and brush the others off as the ramblings of a bunch of crazy exes.

Do you wanna know why you're probably getting all those messages? You wanna know why people were gonna ask you this eventually? Because you keep mentioning it. Here, on Rant, wherever. Hell, no one gave a shit until you brought it up saying how if you got permission you'd love to see the fallout with the Lovelies. By all means: if you don't want to or can't share, fine. But then stop talking about it. You sound like an attention seeking nut when you go "Dude I have this thing, where it would 100% destroy Dan, but I can't actually talk about it, but I've so badly wanted to talk about it even though I can't, but I can tell you that it's not illegal but I still can't talk about it! Stop questioning me!"

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I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be.
The lack of self-awareness here is astounding.
 
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You're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.

This isn't career shattering info. It's simply 100% confirmation about the information that is already out there, that Dan has slept with his fans. Nothing more, nothing less. I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be. I already dealt with this situation once before with Ben, where I provided the first links to an unverified new account post, and the sheer terror of coming back and seeing not only that post blow up, but knowing that I could have ruined that man's career. It wasn't until people found more links and that it had been going on for years that I relaxed and enjoyed the train wreck.

Someone said I got too invested, and you're right. I did. And I only have myself to blame as I willingly put myself in this position. It's why I've taken such a massive step back. But when you get multiple messages from random people for months stating that you're lying and making things up because Dan would never do such a thing, and you have something that instantly prove them wrong, but you can't talk about it, it 100% starts to wear on you. I used to wonder why Ding Dong kept coming to RantGrumps to defend himself. I now know from first hand experience why.

But I've talked about this enough. I knew someone was eventually going to question me on this subject, so I'm glad we talked about it soon rather than later so we can rip off the band aid. I know people are upset about my decision, and I know that if the roles were reversed, I'd be upset too. I only say all this to explain my experience.

Moral of the story, after documenting shit for so long, and thinking that it could never happen to me, I found myself waste deep in shit. It's a classic tale that I'm sure many of you know or have seen before. Learn from my mistake, so you don't repeat it.
you're gossipping about a retard who plays video games online for 9 year olds, you're not a retired federal agent who got too deep in a human trafficking investigation. post funny/embarrassing Dan gossip or go away
 
Then why the secrecy? You're making it sound like the information on him was something big like him sexually assaulting one of the victims or dating a minor or something.

Everyone, including the Lovelies, already knows about the pump and dumps and ghosting, and plenty of people have come forward about that already with their own receipts. In fact, added receipts on top of the ones already shared would've been REALLY helpful in helping that shit gain traction, but now the Lovelies are absolutely going to ignore it and brush the others off as the ramblings of a bunch of crazy exes.

Do you wanna know why you're probably getting all those messages? You wanna know why people were gonna ask you this eventually? Because you keep mentioning it. Here, on Rant, wherever. Hell, no one gave a shit until you brought it up saying how if you got permission you'd love to see the fallout with the Lovelies. By all means: if you don't want to or can't share, fine. But then stop talking about it. You sound like an attention seeking nut when you go "Dude I have this thing, where it would 100% destroy Dan, but I can't actually talk about it, but I've so badly wanted to talk about it even though I can't, but I can tell you that it's not illegal but I still can't talk about it! Stop questioning me!"

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The lack of self-awareness here is astounding.
I've subjected this thread to enough of my essays. So if you or anyone wants to talk more about it, let's take it to private messages.
 
I've subjected this thread to enough of my essays. So if you or anyone wants to talk more about it, let's take it to private messages.
"People have been DMing me constantly about this, and getting them all calling me a liar is really starting to wear me down."
"I ain't telling you shit. If you need me, come talk to me, I'll be in my trailer DMs."
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