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In my opinion, sex pests deserve whatever they get.
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To be fair, though - if whatever information you have on Dan were to get out (whether by you, one/more of his accusers or someone else in the know), the only person ruining Dan's career is Dan himself - as none of this apparent career damaging info would have been known if he didn't pull the stunts he had in the first place.In reality, the choice is, do I want to ruin this man's career?
I mean, technically you are correct there is a non 0% chance, but I think it is incredibly unlikely. Like you said, there's already a bunch of accusations against Danny and it hasn't really accomplished anything. Grump fans have shown time and time again their loyalty is unwavering. I think we've also seen a fair amount of times with internet personalities that, even the most vicious of leaks, rarely keeps them down, let alone destroys their life.There is a chance that I could release it and it be a giant nothing burger, or it becomes swept under the rug like so many other controversies, but there is a non 0% chance that I could singlehandedly destroy everything this man has worked for in the last 10+ years of his life.
It's that he feels Dan doesn't deserve it, and that even if he did he'd just be in danger of it either going completely unnoticed or brushed under the rug because the Lovelies could watch Arin and Dan murder a man and still try to defend them or make the victim's lives a living hell. Which isn't unfair, given the track record of the Lovelies. That being said...Basically, with all the stuff he has documented on Dan, he could potentially ruin his career. After long consideration he decided not to release it, because he feels Dan doesn't deserve it.
Yeah, pretty much this: letting it hang around you like an albatross around your neck as if knowing that information was your fault is unwarranted: the only person at fault in making those decisions was Dan, not you. "Don't shoot the messenger" and all that. Then again, the Lovelies don't really care about who said what or not, because they're that bloodthirsty; you say "don't shoot the messenger", they say "how many bullets do I need to riddle them with" so what do I know?To be fair, though - if whatever information you have on Dan were to get out (whether by you, one/more of his accusers or someone else in the know), the only person ruining Dan's career is Dan himself - as none of this apparent career damaging info would have been known if he didn't pull the stunts he had in the first place.
I'm not saying this because I think you should reveal anything (if you were told this info in confidence, it's more important to prove you're trustworthy by keeping that info confidential); I just don't agree with the idea that anyone other than Dan should be held accountable if his career suffered/ended if that info was leaked.
I get the wanting the moral high ground, but then why fucking bother telling us you could ruin him? Go all in or don't, don't flaunt.My short answer is, no.
My long answer is, [way too fucking long]
Pump and dumps is all it is. If this was something illegal, we would not be having this conversation.if it's something illegal, you should really share that because not sharing that is fucked, but if it's nothing but pump-and-dumps, then just let it be for now.
Then put up or shut up. Stop being a pussy.Pump and dumps is all it is. If this was something illegal, we would not be having this conversation.
You're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.Blarg if you're not gonna tell any of us this CAREER SHATTERING info then you might as well shut up before you go the way of Dom Cruise because if you don't want to then doing these stupid posts are only gonna ruin your credibility
You're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.
This isn't career shattering info. It's simply 100% confirmation about the information that is already out there, that Dan has slept with his fans. Nothing more, nothing less. I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be. I already dealt with this situation once before with Ben, where I provided the first links to an unverified new account post, and the sheer terror of coming back and seeing not only that post blow up, but knowing that I could have ruined that man's career. It wasn't until people found more links and that it had been going on for years that I relaxed and enjoyed the train wreck.
Someone said I got too invested, and you're right. I did. And I only have myself to blame as I willingly put myself in this position. It's why I've taken such a massive step back. But when you get multiple messages from random people for months stating that you're lying and making things up because Dan would never do such a thing, and you have something that instantly prove them wrong, but you can't talk about it, it 100% starts to wear on you. I used to wonder why Ding Dong kept coming to RantGrumps to defend himself. I now know from first hand experience why.
But I've talked about this enough. I knew someone was eventually going to question me on this subject, so I'm glad we talked about it soon rather than later so we can rip off the band aid. I know people are upset about my decision, and I know that if the roles were reversed, I'd be upset too. I only say all this to explain my experience.
Moral of the story, after documenting shit for so long, and thinking that it could never happen to me, I found myself waste deep in shit. It's a classic tale that I'm sure many of you know or have seen before. Learn from my mistake, so you don't repeat it.
Dump it or get the fuck out dumbass, you're just begging for attention nowYou're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.
This isn't career shattering info. It's simply 100% confirmation about the information that is already out there, that Dan has slept with his fans. Nothing more, nothing less. I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be. I already dealt with this situation once before with Ben, where I provided the first links to an unverified new account post, and the sheer terror of coming back and seeing not only that post blow up, but knowing that I could have ruined that man's career. It wasn't until people found more links and that it had been going on for years that I relaxed and enjoyed the train wreck.
Someone said I got too invested, and you're right. I did. And I only have myself to blame as I willingly put myself in this position. It's why I've taken such a massive step back. But when you get multiple messages from random people for months stating that you're lying and making things up because Dan would never do such a thing, and you have something that instantly prove them wrong, but you can't talk about it, it 100% starts to wear on you. I used to wonder why Ding Dong kept coming to RantGrumps to defend himself. I now know from first hand experience why.
But I've talked about this enough. I knew someone was eventually going to question me on this subject, so I'm glad we talked about it soon rather than later so we can rip off the band aid. I know people are upset about my decision, and I know that if the roles were reversed, I'd be upset too. I only say all this to explain my experience.
Moral of the story, after documenting shit for so long, and thinking that it could never happen to me, I found myself waste deep in shit. It's a classic tale that I'm sure many of you know or have seen before. Learn from my mistake, so you don't repeat it.
God this is the fucking dumbest thing I've seen in this entire thread and it's about ARIN of all people.You're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.
You're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.
This isn't career shattering info. It's simply 100% confirmation about the information that is already out there, that Dan has slept with his fans. Nothing more, nothing less. I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be. I already dealt with this situation once before with Ben, where I provided the first links to an unverified new account post, and the sheer terror of coming back and seeing not only that post blow up, but knowing that I could have ruined that man's career. It wasn't until people found more links and that it had been going on for years that I relaxed and enjoyed the train wreck.
Someone said I got too invested, and you're right. I did. And I only have myself to blame as I willingly put myself in this position. It's why I've taken such a massive step back. But when you get multiple messages from random people for months stating that you're lying and making things up because Dan would never do such a thing, and you have something that instantly prove them wrong, but you can't talk about it, it 100% starts to wear on you. I used to wonder why Ding Dong kept coming to RantGrumps to defend himself. I now know from first hand experience why.
But I've talked about this enough. I knew someone was eventually going to question me on this subject, so I'm glad we talked about it soon rather than later so we can rip off the band aid. I know people are upset about my decision, and I know that if the roles were reversed, I'd be upset too. I only say all this to explain my experience.
Moral of the story, after documenting shit for so long, and thinking that it could never happen to me, I found myself waste deep in shit. It's a classic tale that I'm sure many of you know or have seen before. Learn from my mistake, so you don't repeat it.
Pump and dumps is all it is. If this was something illegal, we would not be having this conversation.
Then why the secrecy? You're making it sound like the information on him was something big like him sexually assaulting one of the victims or dating a minor or something.You're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.
This isn't career shattering info. It's simply 100% confirmation about the information that is already out there, that Dan has slept with his fans. Nothing more, nothing less. I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be. I already dealt with this situation once before with Ben, where I provided the first links to an unverified new account post, and the sheer terror of coming back and seeing not only that post blow up, but knowing that I could have ruined that man's career. It wasn't until people found more links and that it had been going on for years that I relaxed and enjoyed the train wreck.
Someone said I got too invested, and you're right. I did. And I only have myself to blame as I willingly put myself in this position. It's why I've taken such a massive step back. But when you get multiple messages from random people for months stating that you're lying and making things up because Dan would never do such a thing, and you have something that instantly prove them wrong, but you can't talk about it, it 100% starts to wear on you. I used to wonder why Ding Dong kept coming to RantGrumps to defend himself. I now know from first hand experience why.
But I've talked about this enough. I knew someone was eventually going to question me on this subject, so I'm glad we talked about it soon rather than later so we can rip off the band aid. I know people are upset about my decision, and I know that if the roles were reversed, I'd be upset too. I only say all this to explain my experience.
Moral of the story, after documenting shit for so long, and thinking that it could never happen to me, I found myself waste deep in shit. It's a classic tale that I'm sure many of you know or have seen before. Learn from my mistake, so you don't repeat it.
The lack of self-awareness here is astounding.I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be.
you're gossipping about a retard who plays video games online for 9 year olds, you're not a retired federal agent who got too deep in a human trafficking investigation. post funny/embarrassing Dan gossip or go awayYou're right, and I completely agree with you, so I'll make this my last.
This isn't career shattering info. It's simply 100% confirmation about the information that is already out there, that Dan has slept with his fans. Nothing more, nothing less. I only say this could ruin his career because I know how both the internet and RantGrumps work, where things get blown out of proportion and that they make a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said, this could be nothing, but at the same time there is a non 0% chance that it won't be. I already dealt with this situation once before with Ben, where I provided the first links to an unverified new account post, and the sheer terror of coming back and seeing not only that post blow up, but knowing that I could have ruined that man's career. It wasn't until people found more links and that it had been going on for years that I relaxed and enjoyed the train wreck.
Someone said I got too invested, and you're right. I did. And I only have myself to blame as I willingly put myself in this position. It's why I've taken such a massive step back. But when you get multiple messages from random people for months stating that you're lying and making things up because Dan would never do such a thing, and you have something that instantly prove them wrong, but you can't talk about it, it 100% starts to wear on you. I used to wonder why Ding Dong kept coming to RantGrumps to defend himself. I now know from first hand experience why.
But I've talked about this enough. I knew someone was eventually going to question me on this subject, so I'm glad we talked about it soon rather than later so we can rip off the band aid. I know people are upset about my decision, and I know that if the roles were reversed, I'd be upset too. I only say all this to explain my experience.
Moral of the story, after documenting shit for so long, and thinking that it could never happen to me, I found myself waste deep in shit. It's a classic tale that I'm sure many of you know or have seen before. Learn from my mistake, so you don't repeat it.
I've subjected this thread to enough of my essays. So if you or anyone wants to talk more about it, let's take it to private messages.Then why the secrecy? You're making it sound like the information on him was something big like him sexually assaulting one of the victims or dating a minor or something.
Everyone, including the Lovelies, already knows about the pump and dumps and ghosting, and plenty of people have come forward about that already with their own receipts. In fact, added receipts on top of the ones already shared would've been REALLY helpful in helping that shit gain traction, but now the Lovelies are absolutely going to ignore it and brush the others off as the ramblings of a bunch of crazy exes.
Do you wanna know why you're probably getting all those messages? You wanna know why people were gonna ask you this eventually? Because you keep mentioning it. Here, on Rant, wherever. Hell, no one gave a shit until you brought it up saying how if you got permission you'd love to see the fallout with the Lovelies. By all means: if you don't want toor can'tshare, fine. But then stop talking about it. You sound like an attention seeking nut when you go "Dude I have this thing, where it would 100% destroy Dan, but I can't actually talk about it, but I've so badly wanted to talk about it even though I can't, but I can tell you that it's not illegal but I still can't talk about it! Stop questioning me!"
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The lack of self-awareness here is astounding.
nigger, get to the point or fuck offI've subjected this thread to enough of my essays. So if you or anyone wants to talk more about it, let's take it to private messages.
"People have been DMing me constantly about this, and getting them all calling me a liar is really starting to wear me down."I've subjected this thread to enough of my essays. So if you or anyone wants to talk more about it, let's take it to private messages.