Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

[totallynotgypsy]

People who say "Destiny can debate" on this thread keep forgetting that he debates mental midgets to look good. Pit him against people who are actually knowledgeable or just know how to argue and he falls apart.

He's a typical case of an "I am very smart" midwit who thinks you can be smart if you just learn these simple tricks. He read some book on logical fallacies and assumed he now gets how the world works. He's a lesswrong type of guy. He's shtick is "define "definitions", "what do you mean by "what do you mean"?", "do you have a peer reviewed study to back that claim?" because he heard actual smart guys saying that so he tries to sound like them. Fake it till you make it.

You couldn't even defend the claim that the Sun rises in the East if your opponnent constantly bombards you with requests to define "Sun", "East", back that up with peer reviewed studies and also what about cultures that don't have the concept of "East"?

He also commits fallacies when it suits him, I don't know if he does it to "own the chuds" or because he's too autistic to realize that the world is a bit more complicated than Logic 101. The spectrum falacy when debating "Yeah, but what is white? Are Italians white? Where does white start?" comes to mind for example. Or when he tried to invalidate the concept of "woman" because of some edge cases. "Oh, so women have uteruses? What about about women who had hysterectomy? Oh, so women can have children? What about sterile women? Oh, so women have XX chromozomes, what about XXX genetic disorder? Gotcha, chud, smugface.jpg". (just in case someone is wondering, consider the statement "humans have two legs", you can attack it by mentioning amputees, people born with more limbs, asking for a definition of a leg(e.g. is a stump a leg? is prentally malformed leg a leg?) and so on, but this doesn't change the fact that everybody on this Earth instantly understands what "humans have two legs" means, that there is a "normal" state of a human, who has two legs, and that there are outliers and edgecases)

 

[NoTimeToLose]

Or when he tried to invalidate the concept of "woman" because of some edge cases. "Oh, so women have uteruses? What about about women who had hysterectomy? Oh, so women can have children? What about sterile women? Oh, so women have XX chromozomes, what about XXX genetic disorder? Gotcha, chud, smugface.jpg". (just in case someone is wondering, consider the statement "humans have two legs", you can attack it by mentioning amputees, people born with more limbs, asking for a definition of a leg(e.g. is a stump a leg? is prentally malformed leg a leg?) and so on, but this doesn't change the fact that everybody on this Earth instantly understands what "humans have two legs" means, that there is a "normal" state of a human, who has two legs, and that there are outliers and edgecases)

I remember when he did with Sargon, Fuentes & Hasan and the Race and IQ came. And Sargon fucked him by saying something along the lines of "Well let's talk about height then, there are average height differences".

I lost my shit there. He slipped it right in there. Calling out the manlet.

 

[Niggernerd]

I remember when he did with Sargon, Fuentes & Hasan and the Race and IQ came. And Sargon fucked him by saying something along the lines of "Well let's talk about height then, there are average height differences".

I lost my shit there. He slipped it right in there. Calling out the manlet.

The don personally sent his regards

 

[Tony Soprano]

I remember when he did with Sargon, Fuentes & Hasan and the Race and IQ came. And Sargon fucked him by saying something along the lines of "Well let's talk about height then, there are average height differences".

I lost my shit there. He slipped it right in there. Calling out the manlet.

https://youtu.be/Oif5sPWxAKY

If you want less subtle short jokes, Jim enters a debate which included names such as Nick Fuentes and Lauren Southern debating Destiny, and throughout the conversation he just makes short jokes with some actual discussion as Destiny just seems butthurt.

 

[NoTimeToLose]

https://youtu.be/Oif5sPWxAKY

If you want less subtle short jokes, Jim enters a debate which included names such as Nick Fuentes and Lauren Southern debating Destiny, and throughout the conversation he just makes short jokes with some actual discussion as Destiny just seems butthurt.

Lauren Chen: "Give me what they mean as Black Name in that study Destiny"
Destiny: "I don't know, like Jamal or Tyrone"
Jim: *bursting out of laughter*

I still lose my shit to this moment too

 

[weaver24]

I think Jim warmed up to Destiny tho in the last 2-3 years. I remember a long time ago some pedo was debating Jim and tried to rope Destiny in and Jim was having none of it saying something like "Destiny would dunk on you too if he were here".

 

[Spooky Doot Skelly]

I think Jim warmed up to Destiny tho in the last 2-3 years. I remember a long time ago some pedo was debating Jim and tried to rope Destiny in and Jim was having none of it saying something like "Destiny would dunk on you too if he were here".

Make no mistake, Destiny is still a massive faggot, but compared to others in his sphere he has just started to seem less-bad (which is really saying a lot about how far we've fallen)

 

[SpergWatcher]

Another double cow (Vaush + Destiny) debate but Vaush barely participated and this is more Destiny related.

https://youtu.be/uqxK7i1joN8

Is a tranny debate. 2 hours, pretty borefest until Vaush and Destiny joins which is about minute 45. What I found interesting about this convo what this specific time Destiny asked this question;

https://youtu.be/uqxK7i1joN8?t=01h43m50s

(hour 1, 43 min and 50 seconds)

So this is a very good point to bring, although not entirely new, however I applaud Destiny for bringing it to a panel of trannies. Basically Destiny makes the argument that if gender is fluid, and is not specific, then why should we encourage transpeople to transition to a gender that doesn't match their sex? Makes sense. If you can change genders, why wouldn't it be then more beneficial to simply mind train trannies to start viewing themselves as the gender that matches their sex? We know most these troons will never pass, therefore less suffering will be experienced by them if they just learn to cope and start accepting the gender that matches their sex. Not that the question gets answered not even by Vaush, they all proceed to pivot to different points irrelevant to Destiny's question but he ends the stream frustrated with the panel still wondering the same thing;

Destiny And Vaush Hot Drop Into Chaotic Debate Panel

Destiny gets baited and drops into a debate panel, later so does Vaush...Follow Destiny►STREAM - http://www.destiny.gg/bigscreen►DISCORD - https://discordapp...

youtu.be

Kudos on Destiny for spitting the troonpill, now let's see if he swallows it again in the future.

 

[NoTimeToLose]

It would be nice to find those Alt-Hype Streams that were deleted and archive them.

Another double cow (Vaush + Destiny) debate but Vaush barely participated and this is more Destiny related.

https://youtu.be/uqxK7i1joN8

Is a tranny debate. 2 hours, pretty borefest until Vaush and Destiny joins which is about minute 45. What I found interesting about this convo what this specific time Destiny asked this question;

https://youtu.be/uqxK7i1joN8?t=01h43m50s

(hour 1, 43 min and 50 seconds)

So this is a very good point to bring, although not entirely new, however I applaud Destiny for bringing it to a panel of trannies. Basically Destiny makes the argument that if gender is fluid, and is not specific, then why should we encourage transpeople to transition to a gender that doesn't match their sex? Makes sense. If you can change genders, why wouldn't it be then more beneficial to simply mind train trannies to start viewing themselves as the gender that matches their sex? We know most these troons will never pass, therefore less suffering will be experienced by them if they just learn to cope and start accepting the gender that matches their sex. Not that the question gets answered not even by Vaush, they all proceed to pivot to different points irrelevant to Destiny's question but he ends the stream frustrated with the panel still wondering the same thing;

Destiny And Vaush Hot Drop Into Chaotic Debate Panel

Destiny gets baited and drops into a debate panel, later so does Vaush...Follow Destiny►STREAM - http://www.destiny.gg/bigscreen►DISCORD - https://discordapp...

youtu.be

Kudos on Destiny for spitting the troonpill, now let's see if he swallows it again in the future.

This is amazing, his "2021 is the year where I work on my rethoric" seems to be pulling him AWAY from the retarded radical left shit. It went the same way the other day where he talked with retarded "Buddhist" Brenton Langel over self-defense and morality.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, there wasn't any women with a vagina in that stream, right? And what the fuck is happening with his speech?

"Like, and considering that like, and then this other stuff, like I don't know if this thing is like, so of course you have to like, like, like, like, like, like, like"

Is "like" the new "lot to Unpack here" ?

 

[SpergWatcher]

Now correct me if I'm wrong, there wasn't any women with a vagina in that stream, right? And what the fuck is happening with his speech?

I don't know about the blond one, but the rest are full troons.

Is "like" the new "lot to Unpack here" ?

He got contaminated with cali speak.

 

[Tony Soprano]

It would be nice to find those Alt-Hype Streams that were deleted and archive them.



This is amazing, his "2021 is the year where I work on my rethoric" seems to be pulling him AWAY from the retarded radical left shit. It went the same way the other day where he talked with retarded "Buddhist" Brenton Langel over self-defense and morality.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, there wasn't any women with a vagina in that stream, right? And what the fuck is happening with his speech?

"Like, and considering that like, and then this other stuff, like I don't know if this thing is like, so of course you have to like, like, like, like, like, like, like"

Is "like" the new "lot to Unpack here" ?

I think one of them was Demonmama, a total troonwreck. I'm pretty sure Demonmama is a Xanderhal simp and had had it out for destiny ever since he's been shitting on the lefties.

All I know about the tranny is this context. https://youtu.be/l-fisPAzi3U

https://youtu.be/l-fisPAzi3U

 

[NoTimeToLose]

I think one of them was Demonmama, a total troonwreck. I'm pretty sure Demonmama is a Xanderhal simp and had had it out for destiny ever since he's been shitting on the lefties.

All I know about the tranny is this context. https://youtu.be/l-fisPAzi3U

https://youtu.be/l-fisPAzi3U

Lmao greatly done Steve.

6:53 "This peace of trash is gone, there's no point in saying anything else to HIM."

Ladies and Gentlemen, We got him.

Anyways I saw DM against The Distributist before and DM argued that children (less than 10 yrs old) should make their life choices without their parents interference, of course to justify the troon shit.

 

[Spooky Doot Skelly]

why should we encourage transpeople to transition to a gender that doesn't match their sex

I'm sure everyone here knows this but the whole reason transitioning is even considered an option is because there's huge monetary incentive for large powers at play, also the fact that these people don't have first principles; their only principle is troon identity supremacy. Bringing up this internal contradiction really does nothing rhetorically - interesting but ultimately pointless argument by destiny.

Edit: Not sure if this was also posted, but here's a full debate with Demonmama a (literally) insane tranny. I love how even after all this, Destiny and his mods still try to hedge and say shit like "don't use this as an excuse to be transphobic against demonmama."
And Destiny wonders why these people continue to have "shit takes"....maybe it's because they're fucking enabled by every level of society? lmao

Destiny vs. Demon Mama - the LEGENDARY SHOWDOWN

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[NoTimeToLose]

I'm sure everyone here knows this but the whole reason transitioning is even considered an option is because there's huge monetary incentive for large powers at play, also the fact that these people don't have first principles; their only principle is troon identity supremacy. Bringing up this internal contradiction really does nothing rhetorically - interesting but ultimately pointless argument by destiny.

Edit: Not sure if this was also posted, but here's a full debate with Demonmama a (literally) insane tranny. I love how even after all this, Destiny and his mods still try to hedge and say shit like "don't use this as an excuse to be transphobic against demonmama."
And Destiny wonders why these people continue to have "shit takes"....maybe it's because they're fucking enabled by every level of society? lmao

Destiny vs. Demon Mama - the LEGENDARY SHOWDOWN

☿ Want to Help Demon Mama Grow? Like, Comment, and Subscribe! ☿☿ Catch my Livestreams at https://www.DemonMama.com/live ! ☿When Destiny calls the banner of ...

www.youtube.com

I'm 8 minutes in, and I understand now why destiny can find himself spitting the troonpill, he has to keep encountering with this lunatics to see the light or just choke himself on HRT.

 

[Tony Soprano]

Lmao greatly done Steve.

6:53 "This peace of trash is gone, there's no point in saying anything else to HIM."

Ladies and Gentlemen, We got him.

Anyways I saw DM against The Distributist before and DM argued that children (less than 10 yrs old) should make their life choices without their parents interference, of course to justify the troon shit.

Is there a link to this Distributist v Demonmama debate? I couldn't find it on my end, not sure why. But as someone who has spent a long time studying catholic social teaching, and with a love for Chesterton, I want to see some revival of the ideology of Distributism. I did see clips of him debating Vaush, and from what I saw, from minute one Vaush was bad faith and would not even give the man the time of day.

 

[NoTimeToLose]

Is there a link to this Distributist v Demonmama debate? I couldn't find it on my end, not sure why. But as someone who has spent a long time studying catholic social teaching, and with a love for Chesterton, I want to see some revival of the ideology of Distributism. I did see clips of him debating Vaush, and from what I saw, from minute one Vaush was bad faith and would not even give the man the time of day.

Here you go bud: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB-AkfKxjIM

Don't expect a stellar performance from Dave, he wanted to have fun but it's impossible with DM.

EDIT: If you want to see peak Distributist though, you should just watch his videos though. Or his DistAns, that can get lengthy. He also did a video about Vaush and Destiny split in morals.

 

[anuscabbage12]

Kudos on Destiny for spitting the troonpill, now let's see if he swallows it again in the future.

Well, Destiny didnt really reject trannies, he just took the piers morgan approach, that gender/sex is biological and finite and that its a woman with a mans brain or a man with a womans brain type argument. That the transition is meaningful because they are a biological man trapped in a woman's body so transition is justified. But in reality they just have a mental illness

Not that the question gets answered not even by Vaush,

Vaush added nothing but repeating his position over and over again. I dont get how people listen to this guy. At least with demon mama it was funny to see him sperg out.
Vaush can just be blown out by the many cases of people like David Reimer who is the study that Destiny forgot about. Also Vaush would have the 94% of children who "experience gender dysmorphia" be on SRS and later on regret transitioning (94% of children with gender dysmorphia grow out of it by puberty) because the 6% of people with mental illness need to cut their dick off and then commit suicide. This is not "maximizing social utility"

also about this two spirit shit, because people kept bringing it up in that debate.
After a glancing at the wiki article about "two spirits", its pretty clear everyone that uses "two spirits" for LBGT+ has no idea what they are talking about. For one this concept that universally native cultures had "third genders, non binary etc" is just not true. Even the term two spirit was invented in the 1990s. It is not something shared by native american cultures.

Two-spirit does not acknowledge either the traditional acceptance or the nonacceptance of individuals in various nations and tribes. The idea of gender and sexuality variance being universally accepted among Native American/First Nations peoples has become romanticized.
Accordingly, the change from berdache to two-spirit is most accurately understood as a non-Native idealization of the social acceptance of gender variance, idealizing a romanticized acceptance of gender variance.

One term from the cree is napêw iskwêwisêhot, "A man who dresses as a woman".
This doesnt at all deviate from western norms. We call that a cross dresser. Its not giving legitimacy to trannies. IDK how this meme came about. Two Spirits seems to just be derogatory terms for weridos that was memed into being pro trans

Also in the debate it was claimed that "gender across the world does not conform to western standards". Again not true.
Gender almost universally across all cultures has been recognized exclusively as being dimorphic or male and female. Its one of the Cultural Universals. which goes in line with the idea that there is biological meaning to gender not a "social construct". Its something that is inherent, which makes sense from an evolutionary point of view for best maximizing resources and encouraging the propagation of their species.

 

[Shek$il]

I'm 8 minutes in, and I understand now why destiny can find himself spitting the troonpill, he has to keep encountering with this lunatics to see the light or just choke himself on HRT.

By the grace of Allah I look forward to the Demonmama lolcow thread if they ever grow larger than "wacky panelist" size on Youtube.

They are one of my new favorites- it's like a fat dude who spends most of his day arguing with Gamestop employees discovered a Vaush stream, decided to not get a haircut, threw on some leggings, called it a day as far as trooning out and autistically devoted their lives to trying to be him.

 

[DarkSoulsPhil]

By the grace of Allah I look forward to the Demonmama lolcow thread if they ever grow larger than "wacky panelist" size on Youtube.

They are one of my new favorites- it's like a fat dude who spends most of his day arguing with Gamestop employees discovered a Vaush stream, decided to not get a haircut, threw on some leggings, called it a day as far as trooning out and autistically devoted their lives to trying to be him.

May Allah bless us with a Demonmama thread.

 

[Alter Ego]

As I reminder, I made a post a couple months ago explaining the scuffle Destiny had with DemonMama, the story behind the "WHAAAT?" video:

Haven't been paying attention to Destiny shenanigans for the past month, but skimming over his subreddit, it appears that this is to do with fallout after a conversation last week between this DemonMama person (a transwoman who clearly doesn't pass) and Destiny's 19-year-old friend DaSkrubKing. I haven't listened to it myself as it's apparently two-hours long, but you can listen for yourself:

• The DemonMama version on YouTube
• The DaSkrubKing version on Twitch

DaSkrubKing subsequently got pissed off when DemonMama uploaded his version of the conversation to YouTube as seen above with a title implying that DaSkrubKing is an incel, "Government Mandated Compliments from Females?? DaSkrubKing Weighs In!" DaSkrubKing then ranted on various social media platforms not just about DemonMama essentially calling him an incel, but also DemonMama's disingenuous conduct throughout the conversation:

• DaSkrubKing's Twitter rant
• DaSkrubKing's longer Reddit rant
• DaSkrubKing's Twitch rant w/ guests

So in the Destiny clip, referenced in the Reddit rant above, Destiny was mostly making fun of DemonMama's vocal and physical mannerisms, but also got DemonMama to quickly admit to the simple positions that DaSkrubKing was trying to get across, thus concluding that DemonMama was always disingenuous from the start.

A couple of things that I find interesting:

• Does anyone here know what Destiny's regard is towards so-called Men's Rights Activists? Because the usual internet Left position is to deride MRAs, yet DaSkrubKing was apparently making MRA arguments (albeit with complaints about "the patriarchy" throughout), hence why DemonMama called him an incel.
• For as much as Destiny's crowd is on DaSkrubKing's side against DemonMama, it's amusing that DemonMama still has them all playing his game by successfully asserting to them that his cantankerous male self is actually a woman.

I've long wondered whether Destiny is honestly delusional enough to think that his (open) relationship with Melina is anything but a ticking time bomb that might not even get to marriage, or if he simply won't admit to being content with never having anything more than transient sexual partners who are ultimately just after his diminishing clout.

Regarding that tranny podcast panel, I'd like to highlight a comment Destiny made during the livestream (before he joined and was only listening from the outside) that didn't make it into his edited YouTube video:

Okay. I don't want to get baited into this shit, okay? I feel that trans issues are going to be what get me banned, which is going to be really irritating because I'm pretty sure I have one of the if not the largest trans community on this fucking platform. I feel like that's going to be the thing that gets me banned. Unironically.

After that, I was surprised to see that he not only went back to listening after seemingly quitting, but also joined the panel directly. Even so, I think it's remarkable that he appeared to go by without explicitly laying out what he believes about trannies, rather positioning himself as a "just asking questions" guy, a way he talks about the issue that I've noticed before. He even subtly laid out the "I identify as an attack helicopter" memetic argument using "chair" instead, which DemonMama recognized. Destiny has been coming across as a closeted trans-skeptic who wants to be a believer, only to then become frustrated when nobody he talks to can provide pro-trans reasoning that's sensible enough for him to agree with and adopt. As Destiny has been recently building out his "positions" website as a one-stop shop for the ideological battles he gets in with Leftists, I wonder when or even if he's going to write a section that explains what he actually believes regarding trannies. At the moment, the only mention is under the "Social Justice" section, stating, "In general, the government should work to protect the rights of minority groups, including trans people." As Destiny himself remarked, to elaborate further is very dangerous territory, more so than any of his other positions.

As for DemonMama, I'm amused that his much-discussed absurd recursive definition of "woman" (i.e., a woman is someone who identifies as a woman) comes across as a desperate attempt to assert (even to himself) that he is, in fact, a woman. He can't find or come up with any other definition in which he can confidently insert himself into that category.