Pedophilia in the gay community - oh no, homophobia

[Lemmingwise]

Let me preface this by saying that there's obviously a lot of good homosexuals out there and I don't think it's right to lump all gays in the same

It's such a copout to say something like this. It's also more motivated by fear than caring to say it.

People only apply it to groups that the current discourse want to elevate.

I have yet to see someone say "let me preface this with the fact that there's obviously a lot of good prolifers out there", or applied to white people, q anons, or atheists, or people who really trust covid narrative or people who are really skeptical about it.

It also prevents the necessary examination of how certain things are much more prevalent in certain groups than others. If 80% of asians refuse to wear a mask and for other groups that is 20%, that is a necessary statistic to talk about.

If for example 50% of pedophilia cases were homosexual, when about 1-2% of people are homosexual, then that becomes a necessary stat to talk about.

Oh wait that's actually accurate stats.

But that's just a new thing with the internet right? The original fight for gay rights was virtuous? Oh wait even in the first gay rights protests NAMBLA was very prevalent with a number of its leaders including harry hays advocating for such.

Yeah, pedophilia is very overrepresented in gay community. You even see it in their art. Vagina monologues, an award winning play had an underage girl groomed with alcohol by an adult. "If it was rape, it was a good rape". Homosexual and lesbian media is rife with this.


And finally while I'm on a roll, "the gay community" is a meme, like "the nra community" "the q anon community". It's a nice sounding name. It's PR branding to make it sound cosy like a lemonade stand and a garage sale. In reality like these other things it's an interest group and a lobby.

The word community is to invoke fussy and wholesome feelings and only applied to groups that are powerful enough to demand being called that which shows it isn't a community, perversely.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

It also prevents the necessary examination of how certain things are much more prevalent in certain groups than others. If 80% of asians refuse to wear a mask and for other groups that is 20%, that is a necessary statistic to talk about.

If for example 50% of pedophilia cases were homosexual, when about 1-2% of people are homosexual, then that becomes a necessary stat to talk about.

Oh wait that's actually accurate stats.

Examining the prevalence of pedophilia in this group is exactly why I'm prefacing this by saying they're not all bad. To me anti-bigotry, anti-racism and anti-sexism means acknowledging harsh truths without lumping every member of a group in the same basket. Most violent crimes are committed by men but that doesn't mean we should gas them all, for instance.

If the pedo stats are that bad (can I get a source on that, btw?) it is an issue that should be addressed.

 

[Lemmingwise]

If the pedo stats are that bad (can I get a source on that, btw?) it is an issue that should be addressed.

It's been a couple of years since I've spent months going over the data and I've got it on a different hard drive that I don't have with me. I'll probably get them to you at some point, but it's going to take some time.

If you want some stats to dig into and get started right away, stats that are equally alarming if not more so, here you go.

Investigate for yourself their accuracy, I've not vetted these stats, but they seem somewhat compatible with the other research I've done.

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I should point out that it particularly relies on kinsey stats, which are always questionable, so I'd avoid those.

Most violent crimes are committed by men but that doesn't mean we should gas them all,

I just think it's mealymouthed to have to preface everything like that and that's why I criticize it. Men are more violent than women. The fact that it doesn't mean all men should be understood. Also, I never hear people preface "Obviously there are a lot of good men out there" when talking about violent men; it's particularly the double standard that I'm criticizing.

 

[Slap47]

I just think it's mealymouthed to have to preface everything like that and that's why I criticize it. Men are more violent than women. The fact that it doesn't mean all men should be understood. Also, I never hear people preface "Obviously there are a lot of good men out there" when talking about violent men; it's particularly the double standard that I'm criticizing.

This is simply not a certainty, especially if you factor in child abuse, and *dare I say* socially conservative issues like abortion.
Its not really possible to measure normal criminal violence since nobody takes women violence seriously as they're capable of far less in this regard.

 

[Rarghs]

I was friends with a group of homosexuals in L O N D O N and was at a house party and we're chilling out and two of them bring up a friend of theirs who worked in Brussels for the EU.. And that he was in prison.. and I forget how but somehow it's implied it was for pedo shit.. and one of them goes "it was just pictures though"

I'm not in this friends circle any longer.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Pedophiles create homosexuals out of their victims. Then the cycle is perpetuated.

 

[Lemmingwise]

This is simply not a certainty, especially if you factor in child abuse, and *dare I say* socially conservative issues like abortion.
Its not really possible to measure normal criminal violence since nobody takes women violence seriously as they're capable of far less in this regard.

Sure. You see something similar in suicide. Women commit more suicide, men die more from suicide. I think it's sensible to put more focus on the latter for that reason. For the same reason I think it's sensible to put more focus on violence perpetrated by males. Things like Duluth model go overboard of course and it's not uncommon for things to go overboard in that regard in our era, but even considering that, I think it's sensible to "gender profile" violence so to speak.

There's a reason MtF's are more dangerous than FtM's and why you have more videos of them threatening violence for example.

But the core of my point is, yes, you're right. Except it's possible to have discussions based on flawed data as well, or you sink in the quicksand of ever more preciseness. That was my point of the criticism in the first place; you can't talk about big issues by only looking at some of the details; you have to look at the large sweeping trends.

 

[Flavius Claudius Julianus]

I was friends with a group of homosexuals in L O N D O N and was at a house party and we're chilling out and two of them bring up a friend of theirs who worked in Brussels for the EU.. And that he was in prison.. and I forget how but somehow it's implied it was for pedo shit.. and one of them goes "it was just pictures though"

I'm not in this friends circle any longer.

I've known at least one or two gay men in my life who I wouldn't be surprised had similar attitudes to illicit content like that.

I think in the eye of public consciousness, paedophilia tends to be conceptualized as an adult male and a young girl, the kind of nonce you'd picture when thinking of the McCann case, if you even want to go with the abductor angle. Where it concerns the added layer of homosexuality, there definitely seems to be a built-in later of social and legal protection (not to mention blindness,) as you can't speak badly about the minorities! This essentially allows gay paedophiles to operate much deeper under the radar than their heterosexual offending counterparts.

As already mentioned, add in the 'tribe' of young looking/twink fetishism, and you've got a further layer of obfuscation. I believe in addition to Milo Faganapoulis, there have been numerous high profile gay men over the past 50 years who have recalled being abused/having had sexual experiences when preteens, if not children.

 

[Lame Entropy]

Couldn't tell you since I don't really interact with the "community". It's infested with obnoxious retards that kiss tranny ass.

I know jack shit about psychology but my thought is that people sexually abused as children develop maladaptive sexual behaviors. If you're a pervert and you fixate on it then you're likely to stop responding to "normal" porn and from there you slip into weirder and more degenerate shit. Homosexuality can be considered unusual so it's not too weird for someone to start fetishizing it.

 

[Helvítis Túristi]

Islam is a bad example, but it does point to this problem. Look up bachi bazi and the prevalence of faggots seems to be high in those regions. Of course, there's no lesbians. Which makes it bad to look into since we don't know if the causes of people becoming gay is the same for lesbians or it's a different problem altogether. That or lesbians are on super undercover to protect themselves. Either case, investigating these cases would probably make you both a homophobe and an islamaphobe.

 

[Saint Alphonsus]

Ideas rooted in faith and not hard reality should probably stay in church.

The anus and mouth are not sex organs.

Penis cannot couple with penis nor vagina with vagina.

Are these propositions rooted in faith or hard reality?

 

[Banditotron]

I think Knudson's theory on these behaviors in the furry community apply to the wider LGBT community. The fear of being accused of abusive behaviors leads to those behaviors being defended or covered up when found. The community "protects itself", but in the process actually creates an environment that normalizes such behavior.

This is the truth.
Frankly, I don't think a "gay community" needs to exist. Gay spaces and majority gay hobbies are fine, but as far as I'm concerned l think "integration" is better for everyone in the long run. Straight, mainstream society has police and support organizations. Gay society has no such accountability. I dont believe that gay people have any sort of increased or decreased predilection for crime, but I believe that a lawless culture will always have more crime than one with accountability.

 

[Vulva Gape]

"The gay community" is now an astroturfed political organization that has little to do with gay rights. The average gay or lesbian has no power over PinkNews churning out propaganda articles on why trooning your 4 year old out is stunning and brave. It's astroturfed and funded by billionaires who are now pushing the TQ stuff like crazy.

That being said, knowing a lot of gay people, I do believe it is overrepresented. I don't think anyone is condoning it though, in the community or out. In gay circles, it carries a lot of shame because most people want to believe they were "born that way". And whether or not it is innate, I believe your sexuality is a part of you that is largely immutable and people shouldn't feel shame about it (so stuff like conversion therapy should be banned).

Growing up as a young gay person, you're a lot more susceptible to predators, especially if you don't have a supportive family or friend group. Of course predators prey on these people. A young boy who's being bullied at school for being gay is going to want to find external validation from any place possible, and predators jump on the opportunity.

I think increasing societal tolerance and teaching basic sexual education to kids (that being gay is natural and some people are gay) would reduce this susceptibility that young gay kids have to predators. And chomos need to be stoned too.

 

[Sustainable War]

I just think it's mealymouthed to have to preface everything like that and that's why I criticize it. Men are more violent than women. The fact that it doesn't mean all men should be understood. Also, I never hear people preface "Obviously there are a lot of good men out there" when talking about violent men; it's particularly the double standard that I'm criticizing.

I think the reason people are inclined to do that, is to signal they're not about to go on some actually bigoted retard sperg. You can of course go too far with this, plenty of content here seems to come from wokies who can barely form a single sentence without prefacing it with a concession that they care about minorities and never voted Republican and would totally fuck a tranny, but sometimes you wanna put up a couple conversational signs after see enough discussions where retardation slowly ramps up about how putting your wiener in proximity of anything other than vagina is inherit degeneracy. It's funny that male violence is brought up, because that whole issue can be a thing on radfem and similar feminist flavored online communities where they start shit because someone feels inclined to drop a "well, not really all men, but -" just because at least a few of them (or more) have been pretty explicitly saying "all men, inherently because they are degenerate men with evil inside them and can never change."

This place seems to have a wide array of opinions and I wouldn't have it any other way, but here we have Exhibit A, proving the point.

The anus and mouth are not sex organs.

Penis cannot couple with penis nor vagina with vagina.

Are these propositions rooted in faith or hard reality?

I've heard this before in highschool when this guy was big mad that no girls would suck his wiener and decided that it wasn't all that great anyway and everybody who did it was a sinner. I know he quit that bullshit around the same time I heard his college girlfriend had him eating her ass. I respectfully disagree with you, Exhibit A, and I hope one day you find that special person who sucks your wee wee, but doesn't pressure you into eating her ass unless you want to.

 

[Slap47]

This is the truth.
Frankly, I don't think a "gay community" needs to exist. Gay spaces and majority gay hobbies are fine, but as far as I'm concerned l think "integration" is better for everyone in the long run. Straight, mainstream society has police and support organizations. Gay society has no such accountability. I dont believe that gay people have any sort of increased or decreased predilection for crime, but I believe that a lawless culture will always have more crime than one with accountability.

I know very few gay people who would claim to be part of the "LGBTQ+" community outside of applying for scholarships.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I think the reason people are inclined to do that, is to signal they're not about to go on some actually bigoted retard sperg.

As I said, I don't think that's the real reason people do it, for the reasons outlined before.

There are plenty of instances where people do something for a different reason than they think (present company included). And I believe this is one of them, and the way you can tell is how the reverance or acknowledgement of good people is pretty much not given to certain other groups. But that's just the double standards; even without those we could do with a little more mild bigotry toward all groups.

 

[Noir drag freak]

This is the truth.
Frankly, I don't think a "gay community" needs to exist. Gay spaces and majority gay hobbies are fine, but as far as I'm concerned l think "integration" is better for everyone in the long run. Straight, mainstream society has police and support organizations. Gay society has no such accountability. I dont believe that gay people have any sort of increased or decreased predilection for crime, but I believe that a lawless culture will always have more crime than one with accountability.

As a gay man, I don't like straight men due to how they treated me in middle school. I don't care for integrating my life with straight people. I think that part of the reason I am a homosexual is because of straight boys treated me. So I feel that the majority of straight can rot for all I care.

 

[Banditotron]

I know very few gay people who would claim to be part of the "LGBTQ+" community outside of applying for scholarships.

I couldn't bring myself to mention my sexuality in scholarship applications. I mean, I still got one, but I've got too much pride to want to let things like that influence my chances at success. If I tried to apply specifically for a LGBTQ+blah scholarship specifically or even mention it another scholarship application, I could never be sure of my own work.

As a gay man, I don't like straight men due to how they treated me in middle school. I don't care for integrating my life with straight people. I think that part of the reason I am a homosexual is because of straight boys treated me. So I feel that the majority of straight can rot for all I care.

Burn all the bridges you like, old man, but if you hold grudges against the vast majority of humanity you'll only make things harder for everyone else, gay or straight. You still have your freedom of association, and no matter what happens in the future you can choose to only associate with gay people if you like. Just as a straight person might choose to only associate with straight people, I'd still think it was bigoted. There's no law against feelings I wouldn't like there to be.
But the point I was adressing earlier- if you're older than me, you must have seen it - I'm saying that there are problems with accountability in the gay community and it goes unaddressed. I'd like to see people all held to the same expectations of responsibility.

 

[Jason Wynn]

As a gay man, I don't like straight men due to how they treated me in middle school. I don't care for integrating my life with straight people. I think that part of the reason I am a homosexual is because of straight boys treated me. So I feel that the majority of straight can rot for all I care.

This autism sounds exactly like something Chris Chan would say. “Hmmm yeah I sure hate all those dang dirty males among which they prevented me from achieving my love quest”

thank god faggots like you don’t represent all of us

 

[theshep]

Common. on the extreme end I'd say less common but there's definitely 16 year olds getting into clubs. Add in there's definitely a fetishization 'twink' which kind of disgusts me at this point.

Spoiler: PL

I was 18 but when I first joined a college group and a pervy older guy started chatting me up. Naivety + Wanting to grow up lead me to talk to him. Nothing happened but the dude was seriously in his 60s and I was deluded enough to think nothing of it.

So like the 60+ year old men who have a chase after young bimbos?