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A trans witch (not even kidding) immediately jumps in to recommend r/AskTransgender for official, cult-approved advice. Even throws in a jab about the evils of CONVERSION THERAPY, which is code for any therapy that doesn't encourage trooning out ASAP.
The confused mother thanks the nice witch for the help, isn't that wonderful!
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And so here we are on r/AskTransgender. Interestingly, this is apparently her second attempt at posting here; she deleted her first post after the commenters attacked her for some reason. Again, "conversion therapy" gets brought up. Troons are really conniving about this, and it disgusts me. They consider any therapist who isn't "gender-affirming" and doesn't rubber-stamp transitions to be just as bad as those electric-shock gay conversion therapy kooks.
This will get too long if I screencap the replies, so check them out for yourself if you're interested. They basically all say that OP needs to be "supportive" (enabling) of her child trooning out. One comment even tells OP to "formally, explicitly, clearly apologize" to her 11-year-old basically for wrongthink. WTF?
What a surprise, mommy issues up the wazoo. Another data point for troonery being a maladaptive coping mechanism. It's easy to have delusions when you can intimidate the rest of the world into going along with said delusions.
Jesus christ, poor kid grew up with a troon for a father. I wish people actually saw troons as the disgusting perverts they are, but it looks like that'll take a long time
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The first three are practically interchangeable, good lord. LGBTQ+++ pride themselves on nonconformity, but they're as terrified to stand out from their own little tribes as any obnoxious hipster would be
What a surprise, mommy issues up the wazoo. Another data point for troonery being a maladaptive coping mechanism. It's easy to have delusions when you can intimidate the rest of the world into going along with said delusions.
I bet if this woman's actual daughter suddenly decided to "present" as male she'd willfully ignore the last shreds of her sanity, bury her fiercely protective parental instincts and immediately allow her child to walk around topless, so as not to be "bigoted" about her chosen gender identity. What an absolute nut job.
In a sane world this motherfucker would have been beaten senseless a long time before he ever got comfortable enough to say shit like this in public. Child sex predators deserve to eat lead
What a surprise, mommy issues up the wazoo. Another data point for troonery being a maladaptive coping mechanism. It's easy to have delusions when you can intimidate the rest of the world into going along with said delusions.
How do you ‘mistakenly’ raise your child as a boy? And why do they speak so nonchalantly about their child walking around nearly nude? I can’t be the only one who thinks it’s weird that they let their son (prior to deciding they’re trans) walk around the house in just boxers. Is the whole family autistic? Idk this situation is weird and sketchy to me
I keep meaning to do a big writeup in the SRS or parents of trans kids threads about hormone blockers so i wont get too into it, but far as ive researched there havent been any studies that specifically look at the long term effects on children/teens, and yet i have found pamphlets from US government medical agencies that say hormone blockers are a "reverseable treatment option". Genuinely concerned parents are being actively lied to on multiple fronts.
I keep meaning to do a big writeup in the SRS or parents of trans kids threads about hormone blockers so i wont get too into it, but far as ive researched there havent been any studies that specifically look at the long term effects on children/teens, and yet i have found pamphlets from US government medical agencies that say hormone blockers are a "reverseable treatment option". Genuinely concerned parents are being actively lied to on multiple fronts.
How do you ‘mistakenly’ raise your child as a boy? And why do they speak so nonchalantly about their child walking around nearly nude? I can’t be the only one who thinks it’s weird that they let their son (prior to deciding they’re trans) walk around the house in just boxers. Is the whole family autistic? Idk this situation is weird and sketchy to me
Considering the strong ties to autism in troonery and the age it's entirely possible the child has a sensory issue.
Reading the way the mother puts it this is some early ass AGP whose forcing everyone else to be involved in their fetish as well as testing the boundaries of how far they can push mom before she gets pissed off and see what exactly they can get away with. It's one thing to wander around with your genitals covered at home . It's another entirely when your choice of underwear is literally exposing you to your family.
Anyone here listen to NPR on Monday (2021/3/15)? They had Chase Strangio on, and until hearing her talk it was always a little difficult for me to think of her as female. Sure, she looks more like a 12-year-old boy with a drawn-on mustache than a real man, but so do some real men. But holy shit, that voice. I kind of expected her to have a hilariously female voice, but I was still caught off guard when I actually heard it. Coincidentally one of the other "experts" on the panel was a "trans non-binary" named Katie (she was an actual woman). The third guest was a nurse who, surprise surprise, whole-heartedly supported safe and totally reversible puberty blockers. I guess they just couldn't find a single person who thought that children shouldn't transition or that men and teenage boys shouldn't be competing in sports against women and teenage girls.
Also, has anyone here watched SuperJail? It was an AdultSwim cartoon from about ten years ago and as you might have guessed from the title, it takes place in a jail. The reason I bring this up is that the security guard is a tranny named Alice. Now, when I first watched it I hadn't come even close to peaking, other than seeing a couple pass by on the street (at the time I'd assumed that I only noticed the particularly poorly passing ones and that I'd probably passed by dozens without even realizing it) so I thought it was a little mean to trans women, but not out-of-line for an over-the-top intentionally offensive show like SuperJail.
Looking back on it now though, Alice is an incredibly accurate portrayal of an AGP.
From Wikipedia
Alice (voiced by Christy Karacas) – The hulking, muscular head prison guard of Superjail who is transgender and regularly engages in sadomasochistic rituals with the prisoners (often without their consent), though she rebuffs the Warden's constant advances. She was originally a male guard at a normal prison but discovered her true nature when she fell in love with that prison's homosexual warden. However, she was fired as a result of the warden's transphobia and was hired by the Warden shortly after.[11] Alice doesn't seem to take hormone therapy, but does have breast implants and publicly considers herself a woman. It is apparent throughout the show that she has not undergone gender reassignment surgery.
He has a very male-dominated career (prison guard both before and after trooning out)
Named Alice
Sex-obsessed and thinks that he's intensely desirable
Sexually harasses prisoners
Into BDSM
Violent
Misogynistic ("I forgot how clingy they are")
When she gave a young girl a birthday makeover he dresses her like a prostitute
Horn-rimmed glasses (his hair is naturally red though)
Puts on over-the-top accoutrements of femininity
Otherwise puts minimal effort into looking like a woman
It makes me wonder whether the show creator knew what troons were like back then. Really, I think that he just chose the most unflattering stereotypes of TiMs and didn't realize how true they were.
Even though the show ended a while ago, I kind of figured that there would still be plenty of trannies out there complaining about it, but strangely enough it seems that enough of them liked the show back when it was on that they're usually willing to give it a free pass. Also, I found this
Wut? It's extremely easy to back up the claim that gender is a social construct; dresses are seen as feminine in the west, but are worn by men in Scotland, MENA countries, etc. And pink used to be a boys color, men used to wear makeup and high heels.... etc etc etc
These things relate to gender but have no basis in biological reality - therefore they're a social construct....
The problem with calling something a "social construct" is that on some level almost anything can be defined as a social construct. It's kind of my go-to, but tallness is a real quantifiable thing, but is also a social construct.
Almost everything is defined in specific contexts and loses meaning when put into other contexts and while the appropriate context usually makes sense, even that is based on our own minds and it's hard (in fact impossible) to figure out what human concepts are or are not social constructs.
So yes, gender is a social construct, and some people conclude that that makes it meaningless. Others assume that because you think that gender is a social construct you must think that gender is meaningless or otherwise unquantifiable.
I keep meaning to do a big writeup in the SRS or parents of trans kids threads about hormone blockers so i wont get too into it, but far as ive researched there havent been any studies that specifically look at the long term effects on children/teens, and yet i have found pamphlets from US government medical agencies that say hormone blockers are a "reverseable treatment option". Genuinely concerned parents are being actively lied to on multiple fronts.
You'll have trouble finding stuff on HRT for teens, but there's a good amount of stuff on GnRH agonists, but only if you specifically avoid the trans-related stuff. It used to be given to children suffering from precocious puberty (or some girls who stopped getting taller too young) and it ended up being a huge disaster and we have plenty of studies and documentation of those cases.
Ellen Page transing out is hilarious (tragic? ironic?) when you think about how Hollywood is full of tall, statuesque, angular, sharp/"masculine" jawed women. But OF COURSE it's the teeny tiniest, 5ft-nothing, soft faced chick out there that wants be Aiden.
How do you ‘mistakenly’ raise your child as a boy? And why do they speak so nonchalantly about their child walking around nearly nude? I can’t be the only one who thinks it’s weird that they let their son (prior to deciding they’re trans) walk around the house in just boxers. Is the whole family autistic? Idk this situation is weird and sketchy to me
I do rather think, these parents are your run of the mill sexist retards who overly police their girls and ignore the shit out of their boys.
The kid has a strong case of middle child syndrome and decided trooning out was best way to get attention, not really figuring that the kind of attention girls get are negative.
From here, the child might realise being a girl isn't as fun as the coomer-groomers promised, or the child will be lost to full blown degeneracy. Either way it seems haraam as fuck.
I keep meaning to do a big writeup in the SRS or parents of trans kids threads about hormone blockers so i wont get too into it, but far as ive researched there havent been any studies that specifically look at the long term effects on children/teens, and yet i have found pamphlets from US government medical agencies that say hormone blockers are a "reverseable treatment option". Genuinely concerned parents are being actively lied to on multiple fronts.
Lupron lawsuits are currently on an individual basis and like most personal injury cases, are settled out of court.
I want to note that it took 2 waves of class action lawsuits against Big Tobacco before the lung disease-smoking link was acknowledged, and 5 waves of class actions later the breast implant companies have still not admitted silicone breast implants cause cancer.
I don't even know how many waves of cases it will take for the cannabis - schizophrenia link to be acknowledged, and it might never be, because it is cheaper to throw literal weed to a populace than actually treat them.
My personal bet is that the medical community will dig their heels in and never acknowledge the use of "puberty blockers" was flat out wrong, while every clinician secretly avoids trooning out their own children.
Medical practitioners are one of the most conservative and openly racist/sexist/phobic out of all the professions.
Everything from the admissions test to the residency system is designed to weed out the "unworthy" - the best way to become a doctor is for your parents to be a doctor.
Even amongst those, surgery reigns supreme for clinical psychopathy, while inexplicably dentists off themselves at alarming rates that would make a troon green with envy.
It is often thrown around that the average medical practitioner begins their career $100k ~ $350k in debt.
There is every incentive for a doctor to receive kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies for filling prescriptions, especially if they are also supporting their kids through med school as well. It is also why you find a disturbing number of con artists amongst them.
Wut? It's extremely easy to back up the claim that gender is a social construct; dresses are seen as feminine in the west, but are worn by men in Scotland, MENA countries, etc. And pink used to be a boys color, men used to wear makeup and high heels.... etc etc etc
These things relate to gender but have no basis in biological reality - therefore they're a social construct....
Do behavioral differences between men and women count as gender, or sex? Because oftentimes, those behaviors inform gender roles to some extent. For example, women being (on average) more agreeable than men are. I obviously don't think we should enforce the more common female temperament onto all women, but it's not like the idea that women are more submissive than men came out of nowhere.
How do you ‘mistakenly’ raise your child as a boy? And why do they speak so nonchalantly about their child walking around nearly nude? I can’t be the only one who thinks it’s weird that they let their son (prior to deciding they’re trans) walk around the house in just boxers. Is the whole family autistic? Idk this situation is weird and sketchy to me
Kid was born a boy, then decides he's a girl despite not changing his behavior or anything. Woke Mommy decides that kid's troonery is retroactive, so he was always a girl, therefore she 'mistakenly' raised him as a boy.
I thought it was a trans woman who made this thread and was expected something like "I feel connected but I'm a dude, maybe I'm a tran", but no it's of course, an Ayden.
FTM can't stop making me laugh.
A comment I missed in the reddit thread about an 11-year-old girl trooning out:
Oh no no no no... Please tell me this is a troll!
He's threatened his mom and grandma with cutting off their access to the child unless they bow to the lunacy. Even brought up "suicide stats" in relation to a 5-year-old???
From his post history, this guy trooned out about 7 months ago himself. He's 36, works in software development, and lives in Portland (because of course he does). He's married to a woman and has two children - ages 5 and 9.
He mainly posts in femboy, nonbinary, and "egg" subreddits.
So this is how the 5-year-old was groomed... the dad was reading "Drag Queen Story Hour"-esque books to his children. On top of whatever other weird, fetishistic behavior he was displaying in the house.
He knows a COUPLE "little trans girls who are 5"?? His son and a playmate maybe? What in the world is going on?
More confirmation that this isn't a troll.
Why do I get the feeling that dressing up his son like this isn't so innocent?
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Oh no no no no... Please tell me this is a troll!
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He's threatened his mom and grandma with cutting off their access to the child unless they bow to the lunacy. Even brought up "suicide stats" in relation to a 5-year-old???
From his post history, this guy trooned out about 7 months ago himself. He's 36, works in software development, and lives in Portland (because of course he does). He's married to a woman and has two children - ages 5 and 9.
He mainly posts in femboy, nonbinary, and "egg" subreddits.
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So this is how the 5-year-old was groomed... the dad was reading "Drag Queen Story Hour"-esque books to his children. On top of whatever other weird, fetishistic behavior he was displaying in the house.
View attachment 2013571 He knows a COUPLE "little trans girls who are 5"?? His son and a playmate maybe? What in the world is going on?