Arin Hanson / Egoraptor / Grump - "Hey I'm Grump!" of Game Grumps fame, hypocritical SJW doxer, shat himself recording a let's play

[TenMilesWide]

Dan has always been inferior to Jon, even his scandals have less impact.

 

[DiabeticSP]

Okay but was she hot?

If she's hot, I'm all with Dan smashing.

If she's not, I'm team cancel culture.

I'm a man of standards and society has rules, 8s and up only if you're gonna emotionally manipulate college girls into putting out.

 

[MahFibro!]

A timeline has been released on r/GameGrumps, detailing the events so far. By extension they also found the victim's Reddit account, and of course her IRL identity, and people are Main are now looking to get RantGrumps banned, and the comments are advocating for either the Game Grumps or the Main Subreddit to sue RantGrumps for slander/libel, despite OP's insistence not to and to remain "neutral".

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamegrumps/comments/manlwj/a_general_timeline_with_the_drama_that_ensued/

https://archive.fo/ktX7d

Spoiler: A General Timeline with the Drama that ensued (with sources and more points to address!)

Hey everyone! A LOT of information has been coming out from others, mutuals of dan, etc. So I want to summarize all of the important information you need to know. I will address the victim in question: The "Fan" AKA ( u/IsThisYourBird ).
I will also provide a TL;DR timeline at the very bottom. Please read that if you just want a short 30-second summary.
Note 1: This will NOT be covering prior accusations. This is focusing solely on the current accusation.
Note 2: If any of this gets disconfirmed, incorrect, or if I'm missing info, I WILL edit this post immediately to represent accurate information. The last thing we need in this situation is misinformation.
Note 3: A lot of this is information that The Fan u/IsThisYourBird (Age 24) DM'd another user after today's incident... Meaning this is coming from the source herself. HOWEVER, it is very possible that these conversations could be faked. So please take this timeline with a grain of salt. Nothing has been confirmed yet.
Note 4: And this should be obvious... DO NOT DM INSULTS OR DEATH THREATS TO THE PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THIS POST. THIS IS NOT AN EXPOSE TIMELINE, THIS IS TO HELP SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING!!!

Before the Storm​

• SUMMER 2013 - Nikki - a mutual of Dan hangs out with him every day during the summer while Nikki was in college. This is NOT the Fan in question. Nikki is 22, and Dan is 34 years old. Dan encourages Nikki that Nikki should bring along a friend every time they hung out for safety reasons due to the age gap. She explains this situation more in tweets later mentioned. (Source [8])

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**NOTE**: PLEASE NOTE THAT THE TIMELINE FROM SEPTEMBER 2013 TO DECEMBER 2017 IS FROM THE POST FROM r/RantGrumps!! THERE HAVE BEEN STRANGE INCONSITENSIES - NONE OF WHICH HAVE BEEN PROVEN RIGHT OR WRONG. TAKE IN INFORMATION WITH A GRAIN OF SALT!

• SEPT. 2013 - The Fan contacts Dan Avidan. The fan mentions how Dan should visit, and Dan replies that he will be there to do some tours in 2014. The conversation ends with the Fan stating "Love ya man!" \1])

Parent Reddit Post - Image Source

• It's unclear how these two met. However, it's confirmed that the Fan met Dan at the age of 17.\2])

\2]) Parent Tweet - Specific Photo
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• OCT. 2013 - Dan wishes a certain Fan a happy 18th birthday on her Facebook wall. \3])

\3]) Parent Reddit Post - Image Source

• This means that Dan was texting platonic texts with the Fan before the age of 18.

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• DEC. 2017 - Dan sends the infamous "Tub" video to the Fan via WhatsApp.The Fan replies: "My god, I've never seen something so beautiful and fancy, I really wish I was there too!! Shit"Dan replies: "If you feel comfortable with the idea, you should send me a little video saying that you'd like to fuck my in that tub. That would do things for me haha" \4])

\4]) Parent Reddit Post - Video Source - Image Source

• This sexting occurred when the fan was already 22/23.
• However, there is (conflicting??\***********)* evidence from a mutual friend of Dan - Nikki LeComte ("Nikki Homicide") - who claims that she has seen this specific video before. The video was sent directly from Dan to Nikki, but not personally. She says it was likely sent in a Snapchat story or a Facebook group chat. She believes that the video was taken out of context. \5]) (More context in source [7]).

\5]) Parent Tweet - Specific Tweet
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The Controversy Begins​

• MAR. 21ST, 2021 08:15 GMT - Reddit user u/NotBlarg states that the Fan has come out to NotBlarg privately to present the story in r/rantgrumps. He states at the end " their conversations turned into sexts, and eventually led to her meeting him backstage at a Game Grumps Live show where sexual activity occurred. A couple of weeks after, all contact from Dan ceased." \6])

\6]) Parent Reddit Post

• It is VERY important to note that in the Reddit post, NotBlarg weirdly words the order of the story, presenting the latest sext FIRST.
  • They first present the infamous "Tub" video & text first \4]).
  • Then the states that Dan was normally texting her when she was underage (technically true, but she was around 17Y,11M old).
  • And follows up stating "As the years went by, and she became of legal age, their conversations turned into sexts". Partially true. Yes, it did take 4 years for the conversation to turn into sexts. However, she only became of age a month after the original text.
• It is also VERY important to note that NotBlarg is a very active user in the subreddit r/rantgrumps. In fact, NotBlarg has ONLY ever posted in rantgrumps since 2018 and has not posted in any other subreddit. RantGrumps is known to often consist of members actively attempting to cancel the members of Gamegrumps. The other times are legitimate concerns about Gamegrumps and how they've "changed".

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• MAR. 21ST, 2021 2:23 GMT - A mutual of Dan Avidan (she supposedly helped work on Ninja Sex Party lyrics) came out due to the controversy. - Nikki LeComte ("Nikki Homicide"). There is a lot to unpack from this thread.

\7]) Tweet Thread

• She refers to the topic of ghosting: "I know from experience that Dan 110% will respond to texts or pick up calls from people he hasn't spoken to in years." This may mean that Dan and the Fan have not been in contact at all for 3-4 years.
• Nikki also says that the "Tub" video was clearly a joke that Dan would make and that she's seen it before. \7]) In fact, she states in another tweet that the video was sent directly from Dan to Nikki, but not personally. She says it was likely sent in a Snapchat story or a Facebook group chat. She believes that the video was taken out of context.\8])

\8]) "I KNOW I've seen that video before" Tweet

• Nikki states that Dan knew that the age gap was weird (she was 22, and Dan was 34), so Dan himself encouraged Nikkito always bring along a friend whenever they hung out so that Nikki would feel safe. While Nikki did not feel anything romantic, she does state that they felt like they were more than friends and felt safe around Dan during the summer that they hung out.
  • Nikki also states that Dan would constantly say "bring a friend, you two can take my room if you need to crash I'll sleep on the couch."
  • From these dates, it's safe to assume that Dan hung out with Nikki in the Summer of 2013. This would be several months before the Fan originally texts Dan in September of 2013.
• She states that she has not spoken with Dan for several years and doesn't throw out the idea that it's possible that fame could have possibly changed him.

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• MAR. 22ND, ~AROUND 12:00 GMT - Most of these Reddit posts are deleted, and the specific time is unclear. However, from reading the context, the Fan ( u/IsThisYourBird ) supposedly jump onto Reddit to talk about the situation. The Fan and u/GreatThisAgain2019 got into an argument on the original accusation post by u/NotBlarg. This conversation was deleted, but then GreatThisAgain2019 DM'd the Fan about more information. Again, there is a lot here to unpack. \9])
• The Fan was chuffed as Dan complimented The Fan for being beautiful and wanted to hug her.
• Dan does tell the Fan that it would be weird for him (age 34) to be talking with the Fan(age 17).
  • Take notice that this is the second time Dan has taken precautions with hanging out with a person much younger. The first time was with Nikki a few months prior, and the second time is now.
• The Fan is glad that she hasn't done anything to hurt Ashley - Dan's current girlfriend.
• A friend of the Fan suggested that she needs to check out the current controversy with Dan. She also states that she isn't too familiar with Reddit.
• It's clarified that the Fanis now 25 years old. She then gives her opinion on the situation: "It's not illegal, it's just a bit of an abuse of power I'd say, especially leading some of us (if not all of us) on"
  • Essentially from the Fan's perspective, Dan was NOT grooming her, but she DOES BELIEVE that Dan was abusing his power.
• The Fan NEVER stated that Dan groomed her. u/NotBlarg & the whole r/RantGrumps subreddit formed that opinion themselves.
• She thinks back and says that back then, she thought being with Dan was her being happy and lucky. Now she thinks that she should have played video games (specifically Wind Waker) instead.
• After this part of the conversation, GreatThisAgain2019 deletes his Reddit Comments. \10])

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• GreatThisAgain2019 proceeds to clarify in certain posts that the Fan was not groomed on the original accusation post by u/NotBlarg. HOWEVER, the moderator of the subreddit - u/TheValkumaproceeds to remove GreatThisAgain2019's clarification post saying that these issues stem further back
  • This feels like SEVERE manipulation from the moderators and users at r/RantGrumps to hide the actual statement from the Fan. is that my unbiased stance flying out the window?

\9]) Text Conversation || \10]) Deleted Reddit Comment

TL;DR TIMELINE​

The "Fan" is the victim surrounding the whole drama.

• SUMMER, 2013 - Nikki (A long-time mutual of Dan) hangs out with Dan almost every day during the summer. Nikki is 22, and Dan is 34 years old. Dan encourages Nikki that Nikki should bring along a friend every time they hung out for safety reasons due to the age gap.
• SEPT. 2013 - The Fan & Dan meet and text each other normally. The Fan turns 18 a month after the initial text. Dan at this age is 34 years old.
• 2017 - Dan sends the Fan the infamous "Tub" video, comedically saying how they should "fuck" in the tub.
• MARCH, 2021 - Dan is accused on the r/RantGrumpssubreddit, and the information several hours later spreads like wildfire on Twitter.
  • Nikki comes out on Twitter and mentions the information I provided above.
  • The Fan herself mentions in a conversation with another Reddit user that she DOES NOT BELIEVE DAN GROOMED HER... However, she does think that DAN IS ABUSING HIS FAME.
    • The person who spoke with the Fan then clarified on the original r/RantGrumps post that started it all and stated mentioned how the Fan does not believe she was groomed, and the moderator of RantGrumps proceeds to delete his comment.

EDIT: u/GreatThisAgain2019 has provided me with a twitter video to show that the texts with the Fan was not fabricated. I should note that he provided these quite quickly after I messaged him about it, proving that this video isn't fabricated. While this doesn't prove that the Fan is 100% the victim, this does prove GreatThisAgain2019's conversation is completely valid: https://twitter.com/gracd81439127/status/1374005639735869441

What Should We Be Discussing??​

As of right now, there is NO OFFICIAL STATEMENT from any members of the Game Grumps.
On top of this, assuming that the information stated by the Fan is correct, there are several discussions that should still be discussed, and some that can be crossed out:

• Dan is a Pedophile: Dan's interactions began before the Fan turned 18, but sexting didn't occur until after she turned 18. This is not an valid conversation.
• Dan is a Groomer: This is a bit more up there, but I personally believe that this was not an issue of grooming. The Fan herself clarified this herself.
• Power Dynamic: This is definitely a conversation that does need to be taking place, whether you believe this or not. If these events did play out, this is something we should discuss.
• ?Age Gap?: This one is more up in the air. Yes, the age gap is creepy, but they were both legal. However, does legal ≠ moral, or legal = moral??? They're both adults who should be responsible for themselves, but it still feels creepy to some. Again, this one is more up in the air, but it may need to be discussed about too.

I also MUST address that the information coming from the Fan ( u/IsThisYourBird ) can very much be FAKED. Please take everything here with a grain of salt.
Gonna go to sleep. I'll update the post if anything new comes out once I wake up - EDITED on 3:41 PM GMT | 3:41 AM UTC | 8:41 AM PDT

Does this Nikki person have proof that the video was not sent to the fan, though?

I mean, if people shouldn't believe the accusations coming from girls who claimed Dan used them (even if they provide some evidence to support their claims), why should anyone believe Nikki because she says she knows Dan, states he'd never do such a thing and claims she saw that video elsewhere (without providing evidence of the latter)?

If it exists, I hope she's going above and beyond to find it in order to save her 'friend's' sorry backside; as it would be very hypocritical of her to deny the allegations against Dan, but expect people to take her at her word alone.

 

[TheShedCollector]

I think the biggest lesson we can learn from this is that women cannot be trusted to make decisions about who they have sex with.

We should lock them in chastity and potential suitors are to be screened by the woman's father. Once a marriage contract is agreed the male shall pay three camels to the father to be returned after seven years of marriage. If the woman fails to perform her wifely duties she shall be traded back to the father but not until the word "PRUDE" has been tattooed on her forehead.

 

[Smithfield Ham]

It’s pathetic and creepy to be an old man who deliberately focuses on young women who are barely legal knowing they are incredibly easy to manipulate especially since they already feel like they know you due to your fame AND since you started talking to them when they were underage. He was the FIRST to wish that girl a happy 18th birthday lmao

You don’t have to give a fuck, this is predictable and not the worst thing in the world, but assess from every angle otherwise risk being dishonest. Or don’t, I’m only saying this in case you legit don’t get why people care. Maybe you do and still don’t care. Fair enough if so.

22 is not "barely legal" it's firmly in the "legal" range. A grown ass adult doesn't need to be shielded from spooky older men because at that point they have the mental capacity to think and form decisions for themselves. The closest thing you have to an argument is that he "groomed" her but that kind of falls apart when you see how minimal their interactions were.

Infantilizing people because they're wammen or because they're not famous is retarded and how fake accusations get to a fever pitch in the first place. Cut it out, dingbat.

I think the biggest lesson we can learn from this is that women cannot be trusted to make decisions about who they have sex with.

We should lock them in chastity and potential suitors are to be screened by the woman's father. Once a marriage contract is agreed the male shall pay three camels to the father to be returned after seven years of marriage. If the woman fails to perform her wifely duties she shall be traded back to the father but not until the word "PRUDE" has been tattooed on her forehead.

Um? Hello? Based Department? Could you be anymore based?

 

[Neil]

In all honesty we shouldn't be surprised when a large chunk of the Game Grumps' fanbase are mentally unstable white teenagers looking for attention. (That doesn't make Dan less of a sex pest, just a more obvious sex pest.)

That's another reason to watch what happens to the Dream/Minecraft MCYT or whatever crowd. The Dream fandom/standom is a billion times more cultish and desperate than the Lovelies could ever hope to be. That shit is a powder keg of overweight teenage girl angst and horniness waiting to explode.

Those girls openly want to fuck the guys so badly, to the point where Dream and his friends have several pages of porn with fetishes like BDSM and Guro dedicated to them on r34 because conventions are cancelled and fat ugly teenage girls need some way to fulfill their fantasies of fucking a famous content creator.

Either Dream's story ends in two ways, he takes his earnings and retires after his fame is gone, or he combusts because him or one of his friends decided to score some vaguely legal pussy and got Twitlonger'd/Google Doc'd for it by said barely legal attention whore.

 

[axon2020]

Do it you cowards.

Imagine thinking RG had anything to do with it

 

[XMassAllYearRound]

8 years later and still winning by doing nothing

 

[ToddleDoddle]

I can't believe this blatant female privilege. These women get to fuck their celeb crushes but are mad because these celebs don't want to dedicate their entire lives to them, yet here I am unable to even get a reply from Pokimaine no matter how much money I give her.

 

[Helvetica]

imo i think this Dan fiasco is gonna be like ProJared, in the sense that he's being accused of being a groomer but he's just a plain' ol retarded sex pest. still bad, but not full-on evil.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

Grumps just uploaded a regular episode and the uglies are going hard on the astroturfing

 

[Smithfield Ham]

imo i think this Dan fiasco is gonna be like ProJared, in the sense that he's being accused of being a groomer but he's just a plain' ol retarded sex pest. still bad, but not full-on evil.

That one was worse because Jared was married and broke up another man's marriage to cum in some non-wife cunny. Danny's single and doesn't bang married chicks (*as far as I know)

 

[Punished “Venom” pH]

In Projard's case, can you really say he fully recovered after his own controversy?

In regards to Dan - it's unlikely Dan will ever address these accusations (doing so would be admitting guilt; and would he honestly want that? Best to let the Lovelies fight his battles for him). As far as the game Grumps go, according to Social Blade, they lost 20k subs in less than 12 hrs; and considering how slowly their channel grows and how much their views have dropped over recent years, they can't afford to lose so many.

Are you joking? They have over five million subs, 20,000 doesn’t even move the needle

 

[Socrates]

I'm slowly beginning to grow an almost Alog level of hatred for the youtube community, specifically the folks that target teen/preteen audiences.

Spoiler: Spergy Alog rant about haha poopy youtubers

It's not even the degenerate behavior or toxic political purity testing that upsets me, that's par for the course for any group of people on the whole god damn planet. It's the way these people put on this "UwU so wholesome we love our fans like our own friends/siblings/children and all of us creators are all good chums who support each other!~" act. That is until the nutcases they've encouraged and stoked up the whole time form the monthly lynch mob and come for one of their "good friends" for whatever real or imagined crime, and they promptly throw them out to the mob, disvow ever even really knowing them, and move on like nothing ever happened a month later. I don't give a fuck about Dan being a creepy sex fiend. Him being a coward that has never stood up for anybody else and encouraged this culture means that he's reaping what he sowed and is why I'm glad this shit is coming back around on him and Arin, the kings of hypocrite shitbags of youtube

TL;DR Youtube is full of disgusting cowards and I'm starting to enjoy that the toxic parasitic system they've established is starting to eat itself alive on a weekly basis.

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

Are you joking? They have over five million subs, 20,000 doesn’t even move the needle

It does when they only get 200,000 views at best every video. Nearly all of those subs are completely inactive.

 

[Helvetica]

That one was worse because Jared was married and broke up another man's marriage to cum in some non-wife cunny. Danny's single and doesn't bang married chicks (*as far as I know)

yeah, that's true and way more fucked-up because he WAS sleeping with a woman he knew* was married but she was pretty equally on-board with it, which is honestly worse in my eyes. still, the whole scandal literally boiled down to three retards slapfighting over retarded things they did, not the insane "ProJared is a cheating pedo" thing it was initially portayed as, so he was just a scummy philanderer type (much like Dan appears to be)

 

[ToddleDoddle]

It does when they only get 200,000 views at best every video. Nearly all of those subs are completely inactive.

Who is to say how many of those 20k are active watchers? You have to account for the virtue signalers who stopped watching Game Grumps long ago but still feel like they need to "do their duty" and unsubscribe. Don't want to get called out for subscribing to a youtuber canceled by their peers, even if they don't watch them anymore.

 

[Raisin Boy]

Danny's single and doesn't bang married chicks (*as far as I know)

Dollars to donuts he has and will continue to. You think that man vets the holes he's shaking them out in? Or that the kind of mediocre woman who's still a Grumps fan by adulthood wouldn't throw away their marriage for a one night stand with a C-list celebrity? I'm just saying.

 

[MahFibro!]

Are you joking? They have over five million subs, 20,000 doesn’t even move the needle

Over 5 mil subs; but only get 1.5 mil view a day, if they're lucky.

That's not good.

 

[Punished “Venom” pH]

It does when they only get 200,000 views at best every video. Nearly all of those subs are completely inactive.

But how many sub losses are those same inactive groups of people? Their audience is defending them, they’re not losing active subs. They’ll start worrying if they start having consistently low views on new videos going forward and that’s unlikely to happen.