Depends on which 20k they lost really. They have over 5 million yeah but most of those don't translate into views or ad revenue. If it was just dead subs it's obviously no big deal, but if that many active viewers picked up and left that's a solid chunk off their average views per video.
Exactly. The churning does not reflect the things which would be concrete consequences here. Being mad on Twitter doesn’t mean the people you’re mad at are in hot water.
Noone needs to manipulate any 18-30yr old women into sex. Most of them are down to bang in a public bathroom
Social Blade charts already show a downward trend in both subs and views. This recent controversy isn't going to help improve that trend.
Recent data is going to biased because you can’t see where it falls on a trend line, show me a long-term downward spiral and then you can call it a correlation. Social Blade is not the be-all end-all of analytics and you’re not even reading the data the way it’s meant to be read. It’s not a real-time metric for the health of a YouTube channel.
Well, great. That just effectively halted any further evidence coming to light. IsThisYourBird tanked her reddit account. Any other woman with a similar story is going to see the witch hunt and keep her mouth shut. It was always a slim thing with the amount of drama this stirred up, but that post nailed the coffin shut. Mission accomplished, Lovlies.A timeline has been released on r/GameGrumps, detailing the events so far. By extension they also found the victim's Reddit account, and of course her IRL identity, and people are Main are now looking to get RantGrumps banned, and the comments are advocating for either the Game Grumps or the Main Subreddit to sue RantGrumps for slander/libel, despite OP's insistence not to and to remain "neutral".
Hey everyone! A LOT of information has been coming out from others, mutuals of dan, etc. So I want to summarize all of the important information you need to know. I will address the victim in question: The "Fan" AKA ( u/IsThisYourBird ).
I will also provide a TL;DR timeline at the very bottom. Please read that if you just want a short 30-second summary.
Note 1: This will NOT be covering prior accusations. This is focusing solely on the current accusation.
Note 2: If any of this gets disconfirmed, incorrect, or if I'm missing info, I WILL edit this post immediately to represent accurate information. The last thing we need in this situation is misinformation.
Note 3: A lot of this is information that The Fan u/IsThisYourBird (Age 24) DM'd another user after today's incident... Meaning this is coming from the source herself. HOWEVER, it is very possible that these conversations could be faked. So please take this timeline with a grain of salt. Nothing has been confirmed yet.
Note 4: And this should be obvious... DO NOT DM INSULTS OR DEATH THREATS TO THE PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THIS POST. THIS IS NOT AN EXPOSE TIMELINE, THIS IS TO HELP SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING!!!
Before the Storm
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- SUMMER 2013 - Nikki - a mutual of Dan hangs out with him every day during the summer while Nikki was in college. This is NOT the Fan in question. Nikki is 22, and Dan is 34 years old. Dan encourages Nikki that Nikki should bring along a friend every time they hung out for safety reasons due to the age gap. She explains this situation more in tweets later mentioned. (Source [8])
**NOTE**: PLEASE NOTE THAT THE TIMELINE FROM SEPTEMBER 2013 TO DECEMBER 2017 IS FROM THE POST FROM r/RantGrumps!! THERE HAVE BEEN STRANGE INCONSITENSIES - NONE OF WHICH HAVE BEEN PROVEN RIGHT OR WRONG. TAKE IN INFORMATION WITH A GRAIN OF SALT!
- SEPT. 2013 - The Fan contacts Dan Avidan. The fan mentions how Dan should visit, and Dan replies that he will be there to do some tours in 2014. The conversation ends with the Fan stating "Love ya man!" \1])
Parent Reddit Post - Image Source
- It's unclear how these two met. However, it's confirmed that the Fan met Dan at the age of 17.\2])
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- OCT. 2013 - Dan wishes a certain Fan a happy 18th birthday on her Facebook wall. \3])
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- This means that Dan was texting platonic texts with the Fan before the age of 18.
- DEC. 2017 - Dan sends the infamous "Tub" video to the Fan via WhatsApp.The Fan replies: "My god, I've never seen something so beautiful and fancy, I really wish I was there too!! Shit"Dan replies: "If you feel comfortable with the idea, you should send me a little video saying that you'd like to fuck my in that tub. That would do things for me haha" \4])
- This sexting occurred when the fan was already 22/23.
- However, there is (conflicting??\***********)* evidence from a mutual friend of Dan - Nikki LeComte ("Nikki Homicide") - who claims that she has seen this specific video before. The video was sent directly from Dan to Nikki, but not personally. She says it was likely sent in a Snapchat story or a Facebook group chat. She believes that the video was taken out of context. \5]) (More context in source [7]).
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The Controversy Begins
- MAR. 21ST, 2021 08:15 GMT - Reddit user u/NotBlarg states that the Fan has come out to NotBlarg privately to present the story in r/rantgrumps. He states at the end " their conversations turned into sexts, and eventually led to her meeting him backstage at a Game Grumps Live show where sexual activity occurred. A couple of weeks after, all contact from Dan ceased." \6])
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- It is VERY important to note that in the Reddit post, NotBlarg weirdly words the order of the story, presenting the latest sext FIRST.
- They first present the infamous "Tub" video & text first \4]).
- Then the states that Dan was normally texting her when she was underage (technically true, but she was around 17Y,11M old).
- And follows up stating "As the years went by, and she became of legal age, their conversations turned into sexts". Partially true. Yes, it did take 4 years for the conversation to turn into sexts. However, she only became of age a month after the original text.
- It is also VERY important to note that NotBlarg is a very active user in the subreddit r/rantgrumps. In fact, NotBlarg has ONLY ever posted in rantgrumps since 2018 and has not posted in any other subreddit. RantGrumps is known to often consist of members actively attempting to cancel the members of Gamegrumps. The other times are legitimate concerns about Gamegrumps and how they've "changed".
- MAR. 21ST, 2021 2:23 GMT - A mutual of Dan Avidan (she supposedly helped work on Ninja Sex Party lyrics) came out due to the controversy. - Nikki LeComte ("Nikki Homicide"). There is a lot to unpack from this thread.
- She refers to the topic of ghosting: "I know from experience that Dan 110% will respond to texts or pick up calls from people he hasn't spoken to in years." This may mean that Dan and the Fan have not been in contact at all for 3-4 years.
- Nikki also says that the "Tub" video was clearly a joke that Dan would make and that she's seen it before. \7]) In fact, she states in another tweet that the video was sent directly from Dan to Nikki, but not personally. She says it was likely sent in a Snapchat story or a Facebook group chat. She believes that the video was taken out of context.\8])
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- Nikki states that Dan knew that the age gap was weird (she was 22, and Dan was 34), so Dan himself encouraged Nikkito always bring along a friend whenever they hung out so that Nikki would feel safe. While Nikki did not feel anything romantic, she does state that they felt like they were more than friends and felt safe around Dan during the summer that they hung out.
- Nikki also states that Dan would constantly say "bring a friend, you two can take my room if you need to crash I'll sleep on the couch."
- From these dates, it's safe to assume that Dan hung out with Nikki in the Summer of 2013. This would be several months before the Fan originally texts Dan in September of 2013.
- She states that she has not spoken with Dan for several years and doesn't throw out the idea that it's possible that fame could have possibly changed him.
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- MAR. 22ND, ~AROUND 12:00 GMT - Most of these Reddit posts are deleted, and the specific time is unclear. However, from reading the context, the Fan ( u/IsThisYourBird ) supposedly jump onto Reddit to talk about the situation. The Fan and u/GreatThisAgain2019 got into an argument on the original accusation post by u/NotBlarg. This conversation was deleted, but then GreatThisAgain2019 DM'd the Fan about more information. Again, there is a lot here to unpack. \9])
- The Fan was chuffed as Dan complimented The Fan for being beautiful and wanted to hug her.
- Dan does tell the Fan that it would be weird for him (age 34) to be talking with the Fan(age 17).
- Take notice that this is the second time Dan has taken precautions with hanging out with a person much younger. The first time was with Nikki a few months prior, and the second time is now.
- The Fan is glad that she hasn't done anything to hurt Ashley - Dan's current girlfriend.
- A friend of the Fan suggested that she needs to check out the current controversy with Dan. She also states that she isn't too familiar with Reddit.
- It's clarified that the Fanis now 25 years old. She then gives her opinion on the situation: "It's not illegal, it's just a bit of an abuse of power I'd say, especially leading some of us (if not all of us) on"
- Essentially from the Fan's perspective, Dan was NOT grooming her, but she DOES BELIEVE that Dan was abusing his power.
- The Fan NEVER stated that Dan groomed her. u/NotBlarg & the whole r/RantGrumps subreddit formed that opinion themselves.
- She thinks back and says that back then, she thought being with Dan was her being happy and lucky. Now she thinks that she should have played video games (specifically Wind Waker) instead.
- After this part of the conversation, GreatThisAgain2019 deletes his Reddit Comments. \10])
- GreatThisAgain2019 proceeds to clarify in certain posts that the Fan was not groomed on the original accusation post by u/NotBlarg. HOWEVER, the moderator of the subreddit - u/TheValkumaproceeds to remove GreatThisAgain2019's clarification post saying that these issues stem further back
- This feels like SEVERE manipulation from the moderators and users at r/RantGrumps to hide the actual statement from the Fan. is that my unbiased stance flying out the window?
TL;DR TIMELINE
The "Fan" is the victim surrounding the whole drama.
- SUMMER, 2013 - Nikki (A long-time mutual of Dan) hangs out with Dan almost every day during the summer. Nikki is 22, and Dan is 34 years old. Dan encourages Nikki that Nikki should bring along a friend every time they hung out for safety reasons due to the age gap.
- SEPT. 2013 - The Fan & Dan meet and text each other normally. The Fan turns 18 a month after the initial text. Dan at this age is 34 years old.
- 2017 - Dan sends the Fan the infamous "Tub" video, comedically saying how they should "fuck" in the tub.
- MARCH, 2021 - Dan is accused on the r/RantGrumpssubreddit, and the information several hours later spreads like wildfire on Twitter.
- Nikki comes out on Twitter and mentions the information I provided above.
- The Fan herself mentions in a conversation with another Reddit user that she DOES NOT BELIEVE DAN GROOMED HER... However, she does think that DAN IS ABUSING HIS FAME.
- The person who spoke with the Fan then clarified on the original r/RantGrumps post that started it all and stated mentioned how the Fan does not believe she was groomed, and the moderator of RantGrumps proceeds to delete his comment.
EDIT: u/GreatThisAgain2019 has provided me with a twitter video to show that the texts with the Fan was not fabricated. I should note that he provided these quite quickly after I messaged him about it, proving that this video isn't fabricated. While this doesn't prove that the Fan is 100% the victim, this does prove GreatThisAgain2019's conversation is completely valid: https://twitter.com/gracd81439127/status/1374005639735869441
What Should We Be Discussing??
As of right now, there is NO OFFICIAL STATEMENT from any members of the Game Grumps.
On top of this, assuming that the information stated by the Fan is correct, there are several discussions that should still be discussed, and some that can be crossed out:
- Dan is a Pedophile: Dan's interactions began before the Fan turned 18, but sexting didn't occur until after she turned 18. This is not an valid conversation.
- Dan is a Groomer: This is a bit more up there, but I personally believe that this was not an issue of grooming. The Fan herself clarified this herself.
- Power Dynamic: This is definitely a conversation that does need to be taking place, whether you believe this or not. If these events did play out, this is something we should discuss.
- ?Age Gap?: This one is more up in the air. Yes, the age gap is creepy, but they were both legal. However, does legal ≠ moral, or legal = moral??? They're both adults who should be responsible for themselves, but it still feels creepy to some. Again, this one is more up in the air, but it may need to be discussed about too.
I also MUST address that the information coming from the Fan ( u/IsThisYourBird ) can very much be FAKED. Please take everything here with a grain of salt.
Gonna go to sleep. I'll update the post if anything new comes out once I wake up - EDITED on 3:41 PM GMT | 3:41 AM UTC | 8:41 AM PDT
It was still a bit more complicated than what was actually going on initially. They were doing that open relationship stuff and it was possible that the Grumps already knew about it for a while. Heidi made a lot of claims that he was abusive when people in his circle had more insight to his situation; which was why PBG responded to her in the way he did.
Which would further enable the toxicity of their fanbase. And they'd still have the gall to say they have no influence over their fans.
I wonder how many of the troon flag avatar Twitter users actually watched that debate, like the entire thing, not a cherrypicked version. Probably none. I remember watching it and thinking, Destiny is a professional gish-galloper and Jon got shoved into a cultural argumentation corner. I love Jon, but he's terrible without a script. Even when he did the podcast with PsychicPebbles he had a difficult time expressing his thoughts.
Agreed. I hope we get a hilariously bad apology out of this. Arin burned the bridges of genuinely good and talented people who, at one point, would have dropped whatever they had going on to help him. He did a fine job of isolating himself for the sake of woke points, and big surprise, it wasn't worth it. I can't imagine that Oney and co. feel a shred of pity for him.
Don't call it a grave. It's the future 41% of them chose.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, Blarg.
GG?
POV: You're animating a POV from a Newgrounds Convention
Almost every public apology on youtube has ended in failure, people who have not apologized and just kept trucking had a better recovery rate.
Okay, the user they're talking about, IsThisYourBird, is the same person who posted this baby asking for confirmation that she other womaned Ashley. This was also the first person who sent the rantgrumps mods proof that she had gotten together with Dan.A timeline has been released on r/GameGrumps, detailing the events so far. By extension they also found the victim's Reddit account, and of course her IRL identity, and people are Main are now looking to get RantGrumps banned, and the comments are advocating for either the Game Grumps or the Main Subreddit to sue RantGrumps for slander/libel, despite OP's insistence not to and to remain "neutral".
Hey everyone! A LOT of information has been coming out from others, mutuals of dan, etc. So I want to summarize all of the important information you need to know. I will address the victim in question: The "Fan" AKA ( u/IsThisYourBird ).
I will also provide a TL;DR timeline at the very bottom. Please read that if you just want a short 30-second summary.
Note 1: This will NOT be covering prior accusations. This is focusing solely on the current accusation.
Note 2: If any of this gets disconfirmed, incorrect, or if I'm missing info, I WILL edit this post immediately to represent accurate information. The last thing we need in this situation is misinformation.
Note 3: A lot of this is information that The Fan u/IsThisYourBird (Age 24) DM'd another user after today's incident... Meaning this is coming from the source herself. HOWEVER, it is very possible that these conversations could be faked. So please take this timeline with a grain of salt. Nothing has been confirmed yet.
Note 4: And this should be obvious... DO NOT DM INSULTS OR DEATH THREATS TO THE PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THIS POST. THIS IS NOT AN EXPOSE TIMELINE, THIS IS TO HELP SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING!!!
Before the Storm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- SUMMER 2013 - Nikki - a mutual of Dan hangs out with him every day during the summer while Nikki was in college. This is NOT the Fan in question. Nikki is 22, and Dan is 34 years old. Dan encourages Nikki that Nikki should bring along a friend every time they hung out for safety reasons due to the age gap. She explains this situation more in tweets later mentioned. (Source [8])
**NOTE**: PLEASE NOTE THAT THE TIMELINE FROM SEPTEMBER 2013 TO DECEMBER 2017 IS FROM THE POST FROM r/RantGrumps!! THERE HAVE BEEN STRANGE INCONSITENSIES - NONE OF WHICH HAVE BEEN PROVEN RIGHT OR WRONG. TAKE IN INFORMATION WITH A GRAIN OF SALT!
- SEPT. 2013 - The Fan contacts Dan Avidan. The fan mentions how Dan should visit, and Dan replies that he will be there to do some tours in 2014. The conversation ends with the Fan stating "Love ya man!" \1])
- It's unclear how these two met. However, it's confirmed that the Fan met Dan at the age of 17.\2])
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- OCT. 2013 - Dan wishes a certain Fan a happy 18th birthday on her Facebook wall. \3])
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- This means that Dan was texting platonic texts with the Fan before the age of 18.
- DEC. 2017 - Dan sends the infamous "Tub" video to the Fan via WhatsApp.The Fan replies: "My god, I've never seen something so beautiful and fancy, I really wish I was there too!! Shit"Dan replies: "If you feel comfortable with the idea, you should send me a little video saying that you'd like to fuck my in that tub. That would do things for me haha" \4])
- This sexting occurred when the fan was already 22/23.
- However, there is (conflicting??\***********)* evidence from a mutual friend of Dan - Nikki LeComte ("Nikki Homicide") - who claims that she has seen this specific video before. The video was sent directly from Dan to Nikki, but not personally. She says it was likely sent in a Snapchat story or a Facebook group chat. She believes that the video was taken out of context. \5]) (More context in source [7]).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Controversy Begins
- MAR. 21ST, 2021 08:15 GMT - Reddit user u/NotBlarg states that the Fan has come out to NotBlarg privately to present the story in r/rantgrumps. He states at the end " their conversations turned into sexts, and eventually led to her meeting him backstage at a Game Grumps Live show where sexual activity occurred. A couple of weeks after, all contact from Dan ceased." \6])
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- It is VERY important to note that in the Reddit post, NotBlarg weirdly words the order of the story, presenting the latest sext FIRST.
- They first present the infamous "Tub" video & text first \4]).
- Then the states that Dan was normally texting her when she was underage (technically true, but she was around 17Y,11M old).
- And follows up stating "As the years went by, and she became of legal age, their conversations turned into sexts". Partially true. Yes, it did take 4 years for the conversation to turn into sexts. However, she only became of age a month after the original text.
- It is also VERY important to note that NotBlarg is a very active user in the subreddit r/rantgrumps. In fact, NotBlarg has ONLY ever posted in rantgrumps since 2018 and has not posted in any other subreddit. RantGrumps is known to often consist of members actively attempting to cancel the members of Gamegrumps. The other times are legitimate concerns about Gamegrumps and how they've "changed".
- MAR. 21ST, 2021 2:23 GMT - A mutual of Dan Avidan (she supposedly helped work on Ninja Sex Party lyrics) came out due to the controversy. - Nikki LeComte ("Nikki Homicide"). There is a lot to unpack from this thread.
- She refers to the topic of ghosting: "I know from experience that Dan 110% will respond to texts or pick up calls from people he hasn't spoken to in years." This may mean that Dan and the Fan have not been in contact at all for 3-4 years.
- Nikki also says that the "Tub" video was clearly a joke that Dan would make and that she's seen it before. \7]) In fact, she states in another tweet that the video was sent directly from Dan to Nikki, but not personally. She says it was likely sent in a Snapchat story or a Facebook group chat. She believes that the video was taken out of context.\8])
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Nikki states that Dan knew that the age gap was weird (she was 22, and Dan was 34), so Dan himself encouraged Nikkito always bring along a friend whenever they hung out so that Nikki would feel safe. While Nikki did not feel anything romantic, she does state that they felt like they were more than friends and felt safe around Dan during the summer that they hung out.
- Nikki also states that Dan would constantly say "bring a friend, you two can take my room if you need to crash I'll sleep on the couch."
- From these dates, it's safe to assume that Dan hung out with Nikki in the Summer of 2013. This would be several months before the Fan originally texts Dan in September of 2013.
- She states that she has not spoken with Dan for several years and doesn't throw out the idea that it's possible that fame could have possibly changed him.
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- MAR. 22ND, ~AROUND 12:00 GMT - Most of these Reddit posts are deleted, and the specific time is unclear. However, from reading the context, the Fan ( u/IsThisYourBird ) supposedly jump onto Reddit to talk about the situation. The Fan and u/GreatThisAgain2019 got into an argument on the original accusation post by u/NotBlarg. This conversation was deleted, but then GreatThisAgain2019 DM'd the Fan about more information. Again, there is a lot here to unpack. \9])
- The Fan was chuffed as Dan complimented The Fan for being beautiful and wanted to hug her.
- Dan does tell the Fan that it would be weird for him (age 34) to be talking with the Fan(age 17).
- Take notice that this is the second time Dan has taken precautions with hanging out with a person much younger. The first time was with Nikki a few months prior, and the second time is now.
- The Fan is glad that she hasn't done anything to hurt Ashley - Dan's current girlfriend.
- A friend of the Fan suggested that she needs to check out the current controversy with Dan. She also states that she isn't too familiar with Reddit.
- It's clarified that the Fanis now 25 years old. She then gives her opinion on the situation: "It's not illegal, it's just a bit of an abuse of power I'd say, especially leading some of us (if not all of us) on"
- Essentially from the Fan's perspective, Dan was NOT grooming her, but she DOES BELIEVE that Dan was abusing his power.
- The Fan NEVER stated that Dan groomed her. u/NotBlarg & the whole r/RantGrumps subreddit formed that opinion themselves.
- She thinks back and says that back then, she thought being with Dan was her being happy and lucky. Now she thinks that she should have played video games (specifically Wind Waker) instead.
- After this part of the conversation, GreatThisAgain2019 deletes his Reddit Comments. \10])
- GreatThisAgain2019 proceeds to clarify in certain posts that the Fan was not groomed on the original accusation post by u/NotBlarg. HOWEVER, the moderator of the subreddit - u/TheValkumaproceeds to remove GreatThisAgain2019's clarification post saying that these issues stem further back
- This feels like SEVERE manipulation from the moderators and users at r/RantGrumps to hide the actual statement from the Fan. is that my unbiased stance flying out the window?
TL;DR TIMELINE
The "Fan" is the victim surrounding the whole drama.
- SUMMER, 2013 - Nikki (A long-time mutual of Dan) hangs out with Dan almost every day during the summer. Nikki is 22, and Dan is 34 years old. Dan encourages Nikki that Nikki should bring along a friend every time they hung out for safety reasons due to the age gap.
- SEPT. 2013 - The Fan & Dan meet and text each other normally. The Fan turns 18 a month after the initial text. Dan at this age is 34 years old.
- 2017 - Dan sends the Fan the infamous "Tub" video, comedically saying how they should "fuck" in the tub.
- MARCH, 2021 - Dan is accused on the r/RantGrumpssubreddit, and the information several hours later spreads like wildfire on Twitter.
- Nikki comes out on Twitter and mentions the information I provided above.
- The Fan herself mentions in a conversation with another Reddit user that she DOES NOT BELIEVE DAN GROOMED HER... However, she does think that DAN IS ABUSING HIS FAME.
- The person who spoke with the Fan then clarified on the original r/RantGrumps post that started it all and stated mentioned how the Fan does not believe she was groomed, and the moderator of RantGrumps proceeds to delete his comment.
EDIT: u/GreatThisAgain2019 has provided me with a twitter video to show that the texts with the Fan was not fabricated. I should note that he provided these quite quickly after I messaged him about it, proving that this video isn't fabricated. While this doesn't prove that the Fan is 100% the victim, this does prove GreatThisAgain2019's conversation is completely valid: https://twitter.com/gracd81439127/status/1374005639735869441
What Should We Be Discussing??
As of right now, there is NO OFFICIAL STATEMENT from any members of the Game Grumps.
On top of this, assuming that the information stated by the Fan is correct, there are several discussions that should still be discussed, and some that can be crossed out:
- Dan is a Pedophile: Dan's interactions began before the Fan turned 18, but sexting didn't occur until after she turned 18. This is not an valid conversation.
- Dan is a Groomer: This is a bit more up there, but I personally believe that this was not an issue of grooming. The Fan herself clarified this herself.
- Power Dynamic: This is definitely a conversation that does need to be taking place, whether you believe this or not. If these events did play out, this is something we should discuss.
- ?Age Gap?: This one is more up in the air. Yes, the age gap is creepy, but they were both legal. However, does legal ≠ moral, or legal = moral??? They're both adults who should be responsible for themselves, but it still feels creepy to some. Again, this one is more up in the air, but it may need to be discussed about too.
I also MUST address that the information coming from the Fan ( u/IsThisYourBird ) can very much be FAKED. Please take everything here with a grain of salt.
Gonna go to sleep. I'll update the post if anything new comes out once I wake up - EDITED on 3:41 PM GMT | 3:41 AM UTC | 8:41 AM PDT
I honestly hope that's not the case, though. If anything, I sincerely hope it encourages these girls to come forward in solidarity.
