The Dead Internet Theory

I reckon we should absolutely be suspicious of anyone with a profile created after 2020 and who goes for low-hanging fruit like self-deprecating jokes and archiving in lieu of actual content.
I am not one for self deprecation, but I do look suspicious by those criteria. Especially since I have a habit of intentionally misunderstanding or misrepresenting things for comedic effect, which could look like a bot actually being confused.
 
By the way, this theory isn't really a theory about the wider Internet. In fact, it has zero application to the Internet, which is many, many, many, many times larger than it was even 5 years ago by any metric you would choose to use. This theory only reveals information about the Internet addicts who are autistic and jaded enough to hold it. Go the fuck outside.
 
By the way, this theory isn't really a theory about the wider Internet. In fact, it has zero application to the Internet, which is many, many, many, many times larger than it was even 5 years ago by any metric you would choose to use. This theory only reveals information about the Internet addicts who are autistic and jaded enough to hold it. Go the fuck outside.
I dunno, I think websites sandbagging their userbase and sometimes content with fake accounts has some implications for society as a whole. I think that the *entire* internet falling victim to this is farfetched, but it seems clear enough to me that the practice is at least widespread. Then again, I suppose everyone here is just jaded enough to accept or even outright assume that companies would be willing to do such a thing in the first place.
 
I dunno, I think websites sandbagging their userbase and sometimes content with fake accounts has some implications for society as a whole. I think that the *entire* internet falling victim to this is farfetched, but it seems clear enough to me that the practice is at least widespread. Then again, I suppose everyone here is just jaded enough to accept or even outright assume that companies would be willing to do such a thing in the first place.
"Fake" accounts exist (they aren't really fake as such, the overwhelming majority serve a purpose and are bought and sold). This is not at issue. The issue is needing to imagine that the majority of activity on the extant Internet is done by fake accounts because you've run out of things to feed your Internet addiction, and no longer get the same rush you used to from your old haunts.

It's just addict behavior. And as is true of all addict behavior it is not representative of, nor does it connect with, the real world.
 
I like the term "gogol" for bots and automated accounts, after Nikolai Gogol and his novel "Dead Souls". Hannu Rajaniemi used "gogol" for uploaded human minds in his "Jean Le Flambeur" SciFi novels, and I don't know, I just like the sound of it.
Although I don't necessarily believe that a significant portion of the Internet is populated by such automated accounts. There are enough emptyheaded people out there without having the need to pad those numbers.
Maybe "gogol" instead of "NPC" is catchier for those people...
 
I like the term "gogol" for bots and automated accounts, after Nikolai Gogol and his novel "Dead Souls". Hannu Rajaniemi used "gogol" for uploaded human minds in his "Jean Le Flambeur" SciFi novels, and I don't know, I just like the sound of it.
Although I don't necessarily believe that a significant portion of the Internet is populated by such automated accounts. There are enough emptyheaded people out there without having the need to pad those numbers.
Maybe "gogol" instead of "NPC" is catchier for those people...
gogol
googl
google
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUN
 
Maybe the internet 'funnels' specific people in specific directions. Y'know how google has customized recommendations across YouTube and google search? etc?

Almost like each person gets their own little digital universe through algorithms and cookies... mhm.
I feel like the profiles gathered on us are much more extensive than we might think. I don’t think that we’re all divided into “seperate instances” of the internet or specific websites, with the missing users filled by bots, but I am almost certain that once a profile is built on you, search results are completely tailored to bury opposing opinions under pages of spam. It’s like the internet is designed to push you down a path of radicalization, with the intended endpoint obviously being leftist. We need some kind of shibboleth to identify actual people on the internet. It can’t be a simple question and response, has to be sort of like a knock-knock joke, customizable for any situation, with the answer impossible to determine by just the question because it requires a basic degree of human wit.

On a side note does anyone find captchas extremely self defeating? Apparently the way to figure out if you’re a bot is to show you a picture and ask you to find the streetlight in it. The implication is that a bot couldn’t possibly know, but if you don’t get it right, you fail the captcha, so which is it? Not to mention it’s a google thing anyway so there are probably intended backdoors all over it. I know the official explanation is that the bot has some squares that it “knows” aren’t what it’s looking for, but that’s still way too much cognitive dissonance for me.

I doubt most shills are actually bots, I find it much more likely they’re as others mentioned just third worlders with a list of replies for scraped keywords that they form a “lump” of unique english around. It’s going to be pretty terrifying once they have enough of a sample size from these indians that they can fire them and we’ll be just shouting into the void against super reply AI that argue in circles endlessly and have grammar and logic structures too advanced to discern from.

Anyway thanks for reading my gay blog. fuck bots and trannies, there are probably less than 100,000 real people using twitter, redditors that still believe they’re talking to other humans are braindead, i love you guys because I feel like I’m talking to real people on here unlike most sites, goodbye.
 
"Fake" accounts exist (they aren't really fake as such, the overwhelming majority serve a purpose and are bought and sold). This is not at issue. The issue is needing to imagine that the majority of activity on the extant Internet is done by fake accounts because you've run out of things to feed your Internet addiction, and no longer get the same rush you used to from your old haunts.

It's just addict behavior. And as is true of all addict behavior it is not representative of, nor does it connect with, the real world.
I think that's an overly narrow interpretation of why people are inclined to believe this theory. I would say a lot of it is much more rooted in people's mistrust of corporations and conspiracies (real or imagined, I leave this part up to the reader) related to controlling the narrative than it is some kind of convoluted apparatus surrounding a person's internet overuse.
 
I think that's an overly narrow interpretation of why people are inclined to believe this theory. I would say a lot of it is much more rooted in people's mistrust of corporations and conspiracies (real or imagined, I leave this part up to the reader) related to controlling the narrative than it is some kind of convoluted apparatus surrounding a person's internet overuse.
Pretty much this.
Do I think most of the internet is fake? No. Do I think bots are potentially being abused to control a narrative? Absolutely. The feds will send agents to infiltrate militias with like 2 people in them, but posting on 4chan is a step too far?
 
I like the term "gogol" for bots and automated accounts, after Nikolai Gogol and his novel "Dead Souls". Hannu Rajaniemi used "gogol" for uploaded human minds in his "Jean Le Flambeur" SciFi novels, and I don't know, I just like the sound of it.
Although I don't necessarily believe that a significant portion of the Internet is populated by such automated accounts. There are enough emptyheaded people out there without having the need to pad those numbers.
Maybe "gogol" instead of "NPC" is catchier for those people...

I'm not entirely getting the Dead Souls reference; the dude was doing it as a tax scam.

There is a SciFi novel that escapes me now, maybe something by Gibson, where in the future most of the information posted on the internet is done by bots. And this information will be about actual events, either historical or current, just with tons and tons of articles that all have slightly different details. This is done so it is impossible to ever figure out what really happened at a given time and place.... unless you happen to hold on to an earlier accurate account of things (or hire a literal internet detective :story:)
 
There is a SciFi novel that escapes me now, maybe something by Gibson, where in the future most of the information posted on the internet is done by bots. And this information will be about actual events, either historical or current, just with tons and tons of articles that all have slightly different details.
I think it's Snow Crash that has "gargoyles" which are people covered in cameras and sensors that go around recording things.

Instead we have low-effort Youtubers who pontificate uneducated BS in a beanie and a bathrobe and roll in the money. While actual video of real events get suppressed.
 
I’m not sure how deep the infestation of bots go, but the use is turning opinions.

I know this reddit user, a gay 36 year old guy, and his beliefs are just whacked. Somehow reddit turned him into a white supremacist by proxy just by bots spamming that shit everyday. He hates trump votes democrat but also somehow believes that white people are inherently better than nonwhites, and the reason why whites control everything (they don’t) is because of these inherent traits.

the only place I ever see ANYBODY talk about white supremacy is the msm and reddit. If the purpose of the bots is to get people to think certain things, even when beliefs don’t make sense when taken as a whole. So if the goal is to push an agenda, well it’s working.
 
I remember back in 2016, after the election of trump, a document was leaked that discussed how Share Blue and other liberal think tanks were going to divide Trumps supporter base in light of his success. Among them were things like saying he abandoned them, discrediting all his accomplishment and using all of his compromises as weaknesses, and saying that Trump didn’t actually represent modern right wing ideology. There were other tactics in there too, like banning conservative hubs and disenfranchising websites using financial tools. It’s scary how accurate that document was in retrospect. I remember laughing at it, saying to myself “this is absurd. We’ve won. The election of trump is going to start a new age of conservatism”. Looks like we were playing checkers while they were playing chess
Respect your adversaries, especially when it comes to political goals.
David Brock is a genius political strategist, but that doesn't make him any less a dangerous pragmatist and hack, who will do anything to further divide the United States.

Also, ShareBlue got a facelift. It's now operating under a far more mild name, The American Independent.
 
I remember back in 2016, after the election of trump, a document was leaked that discussed how Share Blue and other liberal think tanks were going to divide Trumps supporter base in light of his success. Among them were things like saying he abandoned them, discrediting all his accomplishment and using all of his compromises as weaknesses, and saying that Trump didn’t actually represent modern right wing ideology. There were other tactics in there too, like banning conservative hubs and disenfranchising websites using financial tools. It’s scary how accurate that document was in retrospect. I remember laughing at it, saying to myself “this is absurd. We’ve won. The election of trump is going to start a new age of conservatism”. Looks like we were playing checkers while they were playing chess

I’m not sure how deep the infestation of bots go, but the use is turning opinions.

I know this reddit user, a gay 36 year old guy, and his beliefs are just whacked. Somehow reddit turned him into a white supremacist by proxy just by bots spamming that shit everyday. He hates trump votes democrat but also somehow believes that white people are inherently better than nonwhites, and the reason why whites control everything (they don’t) is because of these inherent traits.

the only place I ever see ANYBODY talk about white supremacy is the msm and reddit. If the purpose of the bots is to get people to think certain things, even when beliefs don’t make sense when taken as a whole. So if the goal is to push an agenda, well it’s working.

It's stuff like this that made me finally, fully understand why The Great Firewall of China actually exists. It's less about keeping their citizens in and more about keeping us out. China has a history of being controlled by foreign nations and they are well aware of how subversion works.
 
I'm not entirely getting the Dead Souls reference; the dude was doing it as a tax scam.

There is a SciFi novel that escapes me now, maybe something by Gibson, where in the future most of the information posted on the internet is done by bots. And this information will be about actual events, either historical or current, just with tons and tons of articles that all have slightly different details. This is done so it is impossible to ever figure out what really happened at a given time and place.... unless you happen to hold on to an earlier accurate account of things (or hire a literal internet detective :story:)
I haven't read "Dead Souls", and all I know is that uploaded (and then kinda enslaved to be used instead of AI) human minds are called gogols in those books. The guy put in a LOT of literary references in there, and I don't get a tenth of them. Starting from about a billion references to Arsene Lupin in the first novel, to just as many reference to 1001 Nights and so on... I don't really understand why they call them "gogols", I just liked the ring of it ^^
Not sure which SciFi novel you mean... Haven't read much Gibson beyond the Sprawl Trilogy.
 
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