Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

Which reminds me. wasn't he working on a game at some point?

Yeah, Necromancer, but as far as I know they refunded everything, so it doesn't really matter.

 

[Hagfish]

Yeah, Necromancer, but as far as I know they refunded everything, so it doesn't really matter.

So he is officially going back to doing nothing and having nothing to show for it. And i was halfway hopeful he'd get back to it now that his political career is a meme.

 

[Benzo Samurai]

I'm not up to date. How is the 20-year plan going?

 

[kidatari]

a new video about the history of Sargon

 

[LordofCringe7206]

a new video about the history of Sargon

The comments are loving it.

 

[Hagfish]

a new video about the history of Sargon

As fun as it is to see people make fun of Carl in the comment section, part of me finds it fucking tragic that the dude who forged the first empire in human history will forever have to share search results with the swindon kekistani.

 

[Kingu Cinnamon]

As your average youtube enjoyer, I have noticed a weird trend which is there have been a number of people in roughly the last month have been reacting to Sargon's "The British Crusade Against Slavery" from back in 2015

Spoiler: Examples

This just seems to be an odd trend as Sargon doesn't seem to have other examples of his videos being reacted to as much and his videos don't strike me as the videos that would work as reaction fodder anyway.

 

[Cisna H. Scumale]

The future of Breadtube is their ideas being implemented IRL...

Not really, most of them are infotainment, desktop grifters who don't give a shit about applying their ideas IRL. They're content with being the champagne socialists who gain $100k+ per year off virtue signaling, pretending to be academic thinkers and stealing credit for the efforts of politicians and actual activist groups who really try to put these ideas to practice.

The skeptics will fit right in.

 

[Lambda]

Upon being brought up David Pakman talks about how he hasn't come across Sargon or heard his name in years, it's hilarious how irrelevant Sargon is.
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I hadn't heard about David Pakman since 2014. He was left, but without good arguments, and his videos are effectively all the same. It's unsurprising he's been passed by many people who are either entertaining or have interesting takes, from all political sides. I think this is mostly projection. Can't keep up, so mock the dude who's not making content anymore while you upload as many videos as possible desperately trying to be relevant.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

IS that better or worse though?
Tim pool has an air of legitimacy to him despite some of his frankly retarded hottakes, and the Quartering doubles as a pop-culture/media critic and verbal Ambien for those who cant afford the bottle.

Sargon meanwhile seems to be fumbling in terms of finding some kind of appeal and gaining traction. Considering how his entire "i'll save the west" goal was dependent on him having some form of widespread popular appeal, i think its fair to say that he is in a worse spot than the aforementioned two.

Better, unironically. Tim Pool is a total dirtbag that would hold a cat hostage and wreck his legitimate news company over it. Quartering is a MundaneMatt where his personality is unappealing, so he has to buy subs for 1 million followers. Sargon is more unlucky than anything else. It turned out no one actually wants political moderation of any kind, especially in the UK.

 

[Hagfish]

Sargon is more unlucky than anything else. It turned out no one actually wants political moderation of any kind, especially in the UK.

Going on stream and ragebabbling about how "metokur should be a leader" isnt bad luck, thats just straight up suicidal. When you want give yourself an air of legitimacy you dont immediatly act like a smug child wearing a suit for the first time, all whilst picking fights with trolls and alt-right anons.

"no one wants political moderation"
-Joining an infamously unpopular right wing party
-Unapologetic rape jokes
-fumbling when trying to talk about policy
-Constant smugness
-Fellating Trump
-Bringing up how popular you are on youtube and your various internet feuds
-Having a backlog of infamously poor hottakes that your opponents can dig up with ease.

Not voting for Ukip with Carl Benjamin in the party was less "we dont want moderation" and more "we dont want a party who unironically allowed this moron to become a figurehead".

I dont believe Carl singlehandledly sunk Ukip, unlike what Metokur and the like would like to make people believe. its always been a party thats entirely reliant on knee-jerk anti EU sentiments to gain traction.
But lets not beat around the bush. Carl trying to take the Trumpian approach to politics whilst having neither the money or the stardom was, at best, politically unwise.

 

[TheImportantFart]

But lets not beat around the bush. Carl trying to take the Trumpian approach to politics whilst having neither the money or the stardom was, at best, politically unwise.

Also, Trump hit on issues people actually cared about and were willing to get behind. Carl openly celebrated the fact he had no policies to propose and instead made a horrifically unfunny rape "joke" his hill to die on.

 

[Mr Cuddles]

I can unironically see Sargon making a comeback. Breadtube doesn't have much of a future, I give it 2 years max. The only ones that will last are Hasan and Vaush. The rest will be irrelevant or quit since half of them have severe depression.

I don't see a comeback. The problem isn't just about popular demand but the whole system that it operates on. For the foreseeable future tech is going to be hard left (culturally) and will actively manipulate their platforms to give the result. Despite what many people seem to think monetizing your channel isn't a grift but kind of necessity to keep your channel going full time.

Demonetization was designed to kill off channels from producing work full time. What killed the "Skeptics" (god I hate that term) was having their income yeeted from them. Yes many of the channels fucked it up on their own as well, mundane matt being the prime example, but overall what killed anti-sjw content was demonetization. As channels that didn't want the financial banhammer had to switch politics. Chris Ray Gun comes to mind with this, ever notice that he is not a breadtuber but has very quietly walked back his anti-sjw past. That's not by accident.

What I'm seeing in Carl's future is being paid by loyal subscribers to put out videos on current political events from a culturally conservative perspective. He will live comfortably and will be fine. Any video that might ruffle any feathers of breadtube or other activist organisation will go on his "main" channel as he cannot make that content and still have a living.

The whole affair is pretty depressing.

 

[kapparomeo]

Depends how you define Right Wing. He openly defines himself as a Classical Liberal, ran a group called the Liberalists,

Hey all, long-time lurker first-time poster.

Going back a few pages here, but this comment jumped out at me and I thought it needed addressing: remember that Sargon is British. "Liberal" as a synonym for "left-wing" is a peculiarly American trait, and other countries don't use the same terminology that you do. "Classical Liberal" in particular means 18th-century Enlightenment-era ideas of being economically free-market, business-friendly and generally laissez-faire, beliefs which most people call right-wing or libertarian in the USA (here's the wiki on it for quick reference). In the UK in particular lefties absolutely HATE being called 'liberal' because it associates them with the Liberal Democrats, who used to be the main 3rd Party in British politics and trace back their lineage to the Whigs. The older generation of Cold War-era Bennite socialists in Britain hate the Lib Dems because their earlier incarnation, the Social Democratic Party (which broke off from Labour and later unified with the Liberals to form the Liberal Democrats), forms part of their stab-in-the-back myth: leftie legend blames the SDP for splitting the left-wing vote to Margaret Thatcher's benefit in the 1980s. In the 2000s their presence was inflated by a lot of votes from hip young socialists and college students who wanted to vote left-wing but didn't want to support New Labour's soft pink social democracy (the Lib Dems were also early adopters of idpol wokery, in fairness, although back then it was mainly LGB rainbows than the absolute Salem-on-Twitter witchhunting mental asylum it is now), but trendy lefties never read the small print that the party was never as economically radical as they thought it was. The Lib Dems have never been forgiven by grudge-bearing socialists for going into coalition with the Conservatives in 2010.

 

[Hagfish]

Also, Trump hit on issues people actually cared about and were willing to get behind. Carl openly celebrated the fact he had no policies to propose and instead made a horrifically unfunny rape "joke" his hill to die on.

That too. say what you will about trump, love him or hate him, but the policies he spouted back in 2016 on the campaign trail appealed to people on both sides of the political aisles, at least moreso than Hillary "Nuke syria, Nuke russia, blood for the blood god. also, im a woman" spiel. a sort of populist center-right that emphasized universally important issues, primarily based around economic isolationism for the purpose of building up an infrastructure.

Contrast that with Carl who is one rung away from thinking that the zombie of Stalin has risen to swallow the world in a wave of communist globalism, and only through redpilled right wing regimes and the eventual forging of the great state of kekistan can we stave off the red menace. Ironically, of course.

 

[Rekkington]

Hey all, long-time lurker first-time poster.

Going back a few pages here, but this comment jumped out at me and I thought it needed addressing: remember that Sargon is British. "Liberal" as a synonym for "left-wing" is a peculiarly American trait, and other countries don't use the same terminology that you do. "Classical Liberal" in particular means 18th-century Enlightenment-era ideas of being economically free-market, business-friendly and generally laissez-faire, beliefs which most people call right-wing or libertarian in the USA (here's the wiki on it for quick reference). In the UK in particular lefties absolutely HATE being called 'liberal' because it associates them with the Liberal Democrats, who used to be the main 3rd Party in British politics and trace back their lineage to the Whigs. The older generation of Cold War-era Bennite socialists in Britain hate the Lib Dems because their earlier incarnation, the Social Democratic Party (which broke off from Labour and later unified with the Liberals to form the Liberal Democrats), forms part of their stab-in-the-back myth: leftie legend blames the SDP for splitting the left-wing vote to Margaret Thatcher's benefit in the 1980s. In the 2000s their presence was inflated by a lot of votes from hip young socialists and college students who wanted to vote left-wing but didn't want to support New Labour's soft pink social democracy (the Lib Dems were also early adopters of idpol wokery, in fairness, although back then it was mainly LGB rainbows than the absolute Salem-on-Twitter witchhunting mental asylum it is now), but trendy lefties never read the small print that the party was never as economically radical as they thought it was. The Lib Dems have never been forgiven by grudge-bearing socialists for going into coalition with the Conservatives in 2010.

We know what Classical Liberal means, dude. Everyone defined it again and again for like 3 years straight. The discussion was between me saying he is that precise definition of Liberal, and people saying he was Right-Wing or some sort of Cryptofascist.

 

[Hagfish]

Demonetization was designed to kill off channels from producing work full time. What killed the "Skeptics" (god I hate that term) was having their income yeeted from them. Yes many of the channels fucked it up on their own as well, mundane matt being the prime example, but overall what killed anti-sjw content was demonetization. As channels that didn't want the financial banhammer had to switch politics. Chris Ray Gun comes to mind with this, ever notice that he is not a breadtuber but has very quietly walked back his anti-sjw past. That's not by accident.

Didnt he literally adress this? he hasnt walked back shit, he never apologized and didnt delete any of his old videos or anything like that. He made reactionary hottakes in the past because he was a gamer tired of sjws shitting on his proverbial lawn and flinging shit everywhere, so he went hard at them and said stupid stuff in the process. like the time he said that Spencer was only allegedly a "nazi" to highlight how sjws throw out reactionary labels, only for Richard spencer to literally be an alt-right ethno-nationalist, thus chris made a massive fucking oopsie.

Cue 2020 Chris being called a traitor and an Sjw because he spoke to Vaush and whatnot and you can kind of see why he is less keen on taking sides, being that shitflinging humonculoids appear to be the vanguard of both "sides". But that hasnt really stopped him from calling out SJWs. i mean, his immediate video after going on Vaush's stream consisted of dunking on Jack saint for being retarded.

Likewise, i think its quite apparent that pretty much no one who makes political content, left wing or right wing, is going to face much success especially economically without a Patreon or subscribestar to back them up. Pretty sure David Pakman and Kyle Kulinski were completely demonetized since a long time back.

What killed the "skeptic community" if you can call it that, was being full of smug pretentious asshats. If the presence of Bunty King and Mundane matt didnt already cue you in. Lolcows, lolcows for days.

 

[Mr Cuddles]

Didnt he literally adress this? he hasnt walked back shit, he never apologized and didnt delete any of his old videos or anything like that. He made reactionary hottakes in the past........

I have to ask, you a fan of his? To describe the former "Skeptics" as reactionary is a tad strange, did he use the term or was it all yours? Chris has deleted his library, but he did private "punch a nazi" and I didn't watch his stream with Vaush but from I heard he was saying things that he wouldn't have agreed with 4 years ago.

As for your take about the "Skeptics" downfall I disagree.

 

[Pope of Degeneracy]

congratulations sargon, "smear merchants" was said by Tucker Carlson

 

[Hagfish]

I have to ask, you a fan of his? To describe the former "Skeptics" as reactionary is a tad strange, did he use the term or was it all yours? Chris has deleted his library, but he did private "punch a nazi" and I didn't watch his stream with Vaush but from I heard he was saying things that he wouldn't have agreed with 4 years ago.

As for your take about the "Skeptics" downfall I disagree.

Eh, wouldnt call myself a fan. occassionally checking in on the channel out of curiosity, but i got tired of the "lol im idubbbz" routine back in 2019 or so.

I think the term reactionary, discarding specific political affiliations of the word, can be applied to left wing and right wing political positions. Strong knee-jerk reaction to an issue that defines a person's angle of approach to the subject etc.
Likewise i think the anti-sjw storm of 2014-2016, with stuff like gamergate and whatnot, sort of represented a degree of reactionary mentality, though not unwarranted considering the people they were up against.
So i chose to apply the word "reactionary" to, at least in this case, Chris Ray gun's way of approaching the issue of Sjws infecting platforms and hobbies. From his unscripted videos and poor research to immediate jumping to conclusions, decisions which have bit him in the ass nowadays.

I did see that he had unlisted "Punch a Nazi", but his "there aint no rest for the triggered" and "come be PC" still remains up, so If it was him running away from his Anti-sjw content he would have removed those videos too. According to Chris himself this is entirely because "punch a nazi" was co-opted by the Alt-right and frequently used among them to actively misinterpret his message and maliciously twist his words. The video went from being about SJWs liberally using the term Nazi to discrediting everyone and everything they dont like to being used by Nazis to rile up anger against their opposition.

Most people might not see the big deal, and you can interpret his decision to private the video however you want. But personally i think its fair for a puerto-rican who lives in LA with his black friends not to want to be affiliated with literal white supremacists.