Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

Laura’s love/hate relationship with ER’s. She needs a punch card at this point. Any medical kiwis who deal with people like this- I’m so sorry.
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>"It is necessary to NOT ignore bilirubin when it's that high."

The most likely cause of elevated bilirubin is Gilbert's Syndrome. Which is a scary, scary disease that... drumroll... elevates the bilirubin in your blood because your liver doesn't process it right. Negative side-effects of this include jaundice (which looks ugly, but isn't a bit deal in and of itself), and being slightly more likely to get gallstones. That's it. If your bilirubin's elevated on a blood test and you don't have, say, brain damage, or wack red blood cell counts, or an active hepatitis infection (all pretty noticeable), any decent doctor is going to mark "suspected Gilbert's" on your record and move on with their life. Either her doctor's a piece of shit, or she threw an almighty temper tantrum to get those referrals.
 
>"It is necessary to NOT ignore bilirubin when it's that high."

The most likely cause of elevated bilirubin is Gilbert's Syndrome. Which is a scary, scary disease that... drumroll... elevates the bilirubin in your blood because your liver doesn't process it right. Negative side-effects of this include jaundice (which looks ugly, but isn't a bit deal in and of itself), and being slightly more likely to get gallstones. That's it. If your bilirubin's elevated on a blood test and you don't have, say, brain damage, or wack red blood cell counts, or an active hepatitis infection (all pretty noticeable), any decent doctor is going to mark "suspected Gilbert's" on your record and move on with their life. Either her doctor's a piece of shit, or she threw an almighty temper tantrum to get those referrals.

A hypochondriac will freak out about all test results that deviate from the standard and think it is a sign of a severe and life-threatening illness, even if it is benign or clinically insignificant. I bet, even if the doctor would tell her it is nothing to worry about she would still think the doctor is wrong and demand more tests and diagnostics because it just has to be a horrible disease and the doctor overlooked something.
 
>"It is necessary to NOT ignore bilirubin when it's that high."

The most likely cause of elevated bilirubin is Gilbert's Syndrome. Which is a scary, scary disease that... drumroll... elevates the bilirubin in your blood because your liver doesn't process it right. Negative side-effects of this include jaundice (which looks ugly, but isn't a bit deal in and of itself), and being slightly more likely to get gallstones. That's it. If your bilirubin's elevated on a blood test and you don't have, say, brain damage, or wack red blood cell counts, or an active hepatitis infection (all pretty noticeable), any decent doctor is going to mark "suspected Gilbert's" on your record and move on with their life. Either her doctor's a piece of shit, or she threw an almighty temper tantrum to get those referrals.
Having had a friend and family member live with Gilbert's all their life. It's literally harmless. Their eyes are completely yellow, and it doesn't do much else.

I've noticed it particularly happens often to black people. Once again, harmless in most senses.
 
Whew, so the Laura post is gonna be a bit of a mixup today:

Laura vs the OSU endocrinology department (usually Dr K, the one she wants burned alive) and CareSource:


oh my fucking god she’s trying to find a cat with a health condition to buy it’s medicine.
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So she knows he’s an expert, but Dr K is still evil
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She hates other parts of OSU hospital too
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This man deserves....something for having to put up with her rage obsessions.
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I wonder why he didn’t respond?
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About to die from AI and pinches pennies but is making a road trip for weed. Ok
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How dare they deny her meds? She can’t take that many right?
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Oh.
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And of course she regularly drinks too. Bitch is going to die mixing all that with alcohol
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YAY Dr K!
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They need to take away her ability to use MyChart
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Sue! Sue EVERYONE
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Whew, so the Laura post is gonna be a bit of a mixup today:

Laura vs the OSU endocrinology department (usually Dr K, the one she wants burned alive) and CareSource:


oh my fucking god she’s trying to find a cat with a health condition to buy it’s medicine.
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So she knows he’s an expert, but Dr K is still evilView attachment 2027372
She hates other parts of OSU hospital too
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This man deserves....something for having to put up with her rage obsessions.View attachment 2027380
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I wonder why he didn’t respond?
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About to die from AI and pinches pennies but is making a road trip for weed. Ok
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How dare they deny her meds? She can’t take that many right?
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Oh.
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And of course she regularly drinks too. Bitch is going to die mixing all that with alcohol
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YAY Dr K!
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They need to take away her ability to use MyChart
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Sue! Sue EVERYONE
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Wow. What a fucking bitch. I love her!
 
Whew, so the Laura post is gonna be a bit of a mixup today:

Laura vs the OSU endocrinology department (usually Dr K, the one she wants burned alive) and CareSource:


oh my fucking god she’s trying to find a cat with a health condition to buy it’s medicine.
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So she knows he’s an expert, but Dr K is still evilView attachment 2027372
She hates other parts of OSU hospital too
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This man deserves....something for having to put up with her rage obsessions.View attachment 2027380
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I wonder why he didn’t respond?
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About to die from AI and pinches pennies but is making a road trip for weed. Ok
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How dare they deny her meds? She can’t take that many right?
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Oh.
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And of course she regularly drinks too. Bitch is going to die mixing all that with alcohol
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YAY Dr K!
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They need to take away her ability to use MyChart
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Sue! Sue EVERYONE
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Holy crap, those drugs. Has none of her doctors ever asked for a list of her meds and maybe thought about side effects and drug interactions being the problem here?
 
Holy crap, those drugs. Has none of her doctors ever asked for a list of her meds and maybe thought about side effects and drug interactions being the problem here?
That’s what I was thinking. Any one of these drugs could be the problem.

Why the hell is she asking about a cat with hyperthyroidism when she’s taking generic Synthroid which is for HYPOthyroidism?

edit: I couldn’t remember correctly, so I looked it up. It’s not recommended to take Wellbutrin or Benadryl with Adderall because it increases the risk of serotonin syndrome:
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Still won't work. Had a friend convert the files to mp4. Tried again, now get an error message instead blank uploads. I've got a few of Sandy and Kiley argument audio clips and a couple what were presented as Matt to Sandy voicemails.

Kiley has been oddly quiet on Facebook lately. Burgeoning medical emergency?

Some details and a bit of a better timeline through an additional source.

Kileys pro-ana photographer friend asked her for medical evidence of her low weight. She replied to him. Then she made a post with some medical papers but quickly deleted it. I got some screen grabs. I'm way too invested in this now.

Here is some facebook medical device attention seeking with kileys service dogs, knee braces, and eye patches (she wore to a military function of all places). She says Stormy the dog got an award, but that's just a piece of paper if you zoom in. More proof of nazi dog per Dubya picture.

On medical records, Kiley's September weight is 61.2 pounds. Kiley says her landlord in Florida poisoned her.

Kiley has discussed this part in extraordinary detail in her former cult group. She says her doctor believes she is an attempted murder victim, and compared the situation to a Lifetime movie when discussing her condition to kiley and sandy. Kiley said she didn't understand at the time and asked her doctor not to talk about to police until kiley was able to speak for herself coherently. Before she came back to Nebraska in August, kiley had to talk to police in Florida for her poisoned dog and tampered meds. Kiley heavily implied that Matt made her talk to police and that and she didn't want to.

Matt was trying to pin the dog poisoning and tampered medications on their landlord, and kiley just wanted to get back to Nebraska because her dog had been poisoned and she was very sick. Police also make kiley nervous.

Kiley said her doctor agreed not to talk to police until she was ready. Kiley also says her doctor would have had no reason to suspect sandy was up to anything at that point, and even for weeks. There was no real precedent for it.

If both Sandy and Doctor believed Matt made kiley sick, why was Kiley telling Doctor it was the Florida landlord, especially if Kiley and landlord are still friends? Why was Matt trying to make kiley talk to Florida police to pin things on the landlord? Matt was definitely still in contact with kiley when she returned to Nebraska for at least a couple months, and seemingly making huge demands of her versus letting her recover. Their communication cut off sometime in October while sandy and matt continued to email, call, and text.

If Kiley consumed lithium in Florida as she says on the medical report, and kiley was tampering with tests in Nebraska, that wouldn't make sense because the lithium would be out of her system by the time the tests in Nebraska were taken and results released either way - whether she actually took the lithium or if she tampered with the test. There are very few pictures on kileys secret Florida facebook toward the end of her time there. Initially she posted a lot. It seems like the more weight she lost, the more kiley disappeared from facebook. Matt's surgery was in July when kiley started really thinning out, and then she went from 85 pounds to 60 pounds in weeks, would she have the mental capacity to think through all of these possibilities? Or even tamper with laboratory equipment? Kiley talks about her senses fading or blurring to almost nothing, and sandy mentions pushing kiley in a wheelchair.

If your daughter moved to Florida at 135lbs, came back from staying with a 47 year old man 7 months later, was at 80lbs and basically dying, would you blame Matt or the landlord, if you were a parent? Kiley was never allowed to speak with doctors privately without Sandy, so that leads me to think Sandy was also blaming the landlord, which again makes no sense to me. Everyone is trying to point the finger at someone else for poisoning kiley, but kileys doctor and the other players involved are not blaming Kiley for her own sickness.

I also noticed this: Kiley admits to not being able to eat, or "anorexia," as a main complaint to her doctor in September. But Doctor never adds an ED or anorexia to kileys chart. In the defunct cult, kiley talked about drinking 15,000+ calories daily during the worst times while still losing weight, and Doctor telling her to up the calories and get into nutrition asap.

I'm starting to catch a vibe that Kiley is terrified of Matt and kiley seems to be doing whatever he is telling her to do. I also get the vibe Kiley's verbal diarrhea extends to her doctor's appointments and that Sandy is present and guiding them.

I have an audio file of Matt saying he'd shoot the landlord before Kiley left Florida. Kiley might have been recording him because she was scared. That one was too good not to save they are all crazy fucks.

Sandy got a bunch of consumable items laboratory tested in October, with results (surprise) coming back as all the items being poisoned. Results in November.

In November, a toxicologist in Florida accepted kiley as a patient near where she had lived. Why was kiley trying to go back to Florida, presumably to Matt, if kiley believed matt poisoned her? Kiley has gone on and on about sandy denying her medical care. Did kiley think she had a better shot at getting treatment with matt, or that she could just go straight to treatment and bypass him? It seems like kiley wants to be away from *both* sandy and matt, and it seems like she actually wants treatment. I don't know why Sandy would let her daughter hang out at Eugenia Cooney weights and *not* get her treatment for months, even just to get kiley off her hands.

By December, Kiley is around 76 pounds and in the emergency room for an aspirin overdose she alleges Sandy administered.

Sandy was kicked out of the ER for admitting to administering the aspirin, and because kiley was treated with sodium bicarbonate and fluids, law enforcement was called. The actual test result for salicylates was just under the OD value, so shy of an official OD, but the hospital (University of Nebraska Medical Center) kept sheriffs outside of her door in case Sandy returned. Kiley said she felt bad for sandy being kicked out even though she understood, and was terrified being in a hospital that wasn't one of her mom's where she knew the staff. (That would refer to a Catholic Health Initiatives, CHI, hospital where Sandy had what would be considered an all-access pass at each hospital.) Kiley thinks Sandy is Mommy Dearest but was simultaneously terrified without her for the first time.

The ER notes are golden. But why wouldn't the hospital admit a 76 pound, obviously mentally ill patient either medically or psychiatrically? Kiley said there was a three hour fight between the ER physicians and admitting team on whether or not to admit her either psych or medically.

Kiley said she showed the ER physicians text messages from Sandy, and they determined the aspirin OD was accidental and let her leave mentally on those grounds. They cleared kiley as a suicide risk. Medically, they wanted to admit her for "failure to thrive," but because she was stable and just a hair under the official aspirin overdose factor, they released her. Kiley's Nebraska boyfriend Nick arrived and took her home that night.

TL: DR: in December, stable skelly Kiley came into an ER and despite being a corpse, and was treated with fluids and medication and released.


I remember Kiley saying she called the police from the ER and said she was being held agaimst her will, and I think this was all the same event, but I can't remember. Kiley actually complimented the police officers who came to the hospital, which is weird on a different level. Cops and sheriffs in the ER over one crazy skelly. She has also called the police on Sandy for keeping her service dog away from her, too. No idea what the story behind that one is.

Some of the audios I saved but have been unable to upload are voicemails of Matt to Sandy during this period of time where kiley is a skelly in Nebraska, Matt is in Florida, and Sandy is alleging Matt poisoned kiley while ongoingly laboratory testing kiley and receiving packages from Matt it seems Kiley is still consuming. I find it very bizarre that Sandy continues to talk to Matt the entire time Kiley is a skeleton in Nebraska if sandy thinks matt poisoned her daughter. It's just too weird. I think Matt was kiley's boyfriend for awhile, but only Sandy is talking to matt while simultaneously spending thousands of dollars testing care packages Matt was mailing them for kiley. When the results were in that whatever sandy tested was all poisoned, Sandy continued to talk to Matt.

Sandy started talking to law enforcement in January of 2019. I get the feeling it went nowhere.

Kiley recently got a Facebook ban for a long post where she alleges Sandy and friend Paula contacted multiple law enforcement officers and agencies in both states, against kileys will, and she was never even allowed to meet the cops. She named names of officers, including a homicide detective Sandy interacted with twice, and a few jurisdictions.

Kiley has said numerous times that Sandy and Paula were infatuated with making kileys poisoning into a high-profile crime case, and kiley still had received no medical treatment beyond ER fluids a few times.

Omaha, Nebraska homicide detectives interviewed Kiley's doctors, Matt several times, and eventually told Sandy there is not enough evidence a crime has been committed in Nebraska and she'd need to pursue charges in Florida. The case was closed.

Kiley filed a domestic abuse protection order against Matt in early January because he was flying into town after she cut contact with him and coming by the house she lives and Sandy's house. Kiley says sandy forced her to file one but refused to file one for herself despite Matt still contacting Sandy. Totally sus.

The protection order filing is what prompted the attempted murder investigation. Matt was unable to fly in for the protection order hearing, and it stood in place for two months then was mysteriously dropped. Tree Nichols and another parishioner from church went to the protection order hearing, as did Kiley's Nebraska boyfriend Nick, and kiley's sister.

Sandy did *not* attend the protection order hearing.

In February, Sandy told Kiley it is her "job" to collect evidence for the police against Matt. Kiley seems displeased by this assignment.
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Part of Laura’s (many) issues, at least, seems to be suffering very normal side effects of stimulant medications (she’s named Vyvanse and the paper she posted listed Adderall, both extended- and immediate release, with the IR Addy presumably as a booster to the dying out Extended Release she takes in morning.)

I would hazard a guess that she was removed from Adderall and placed on Vyvanse, but even a cursory Google search of the Mecca of stimulant subs, Reddit, will show new and long-time users sweating through their clothing, bright-red cheeks from mild physical exertion like taking out a trash bag, to more severe sorts like sweating through multiple shirts, bra and panties just walking to the next room.

Beyond the sweating and red face, made all the more prominent by her fair skin, the rage she exhibits nearly constantly, triggered by the slightest of inconveniences, could potentially be applied to the side effect category, although to my eye, Laura seems to have come by that one on her own merits, and it’s at best enhanced by the stims.

Vyvanse sweats are bad
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That's a lot of allergy meds. Those alone could explain more than half her issues.

A lot of off the shelf / over the counter stuff being misused that most of her doctors won't even be aware of course.

The weekly boric acid up her vagina would explain why she keeps needing antifungal treatments for there. Same with the sinuses and various sprays.

She's on Adderall and a couple of other meds that might have a psychiatric prescriber- I haven't seen her speak much about that recently.
 
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Laura is another level of Munchie. She’s a rage filled hypochondriac munch. She likely actually believes that she’s ill, I think the emails and statuses show that she does think there is something serious wrong. But using phrases like ‘on the brink of death’ is hypochondriac talk. Everything is to the extreme I wouldn’t be surprised if she was bipolar, mania can manifest as rage.

If I was her friend I’d have blocked her and cut her out by now. I’m just sad that the ‘person who left her in her extra emergency adrenal crisis’ didn’t respond telling her to get over herself and shut the fuck up. She manipulates her doctors with ‘If you won’t do x I don’t want to live anymore’ and publicly posting over exaggerated lies about her care plus disgusting insults wishing them all dead.

She manipulated ‘friend’ by sending those messages that scream narcissism and attention seeking. Her attitude stinks and she literally has no shame., thousands, millions of people have a real crisis every day. The amount of shit some people have to put up with in life is beyond tragic but then you get Laura. Emailing her doctors that she’s dying, in crisis, slowly sweating away into a puddle. She wants help but not from them because they’re incompetent fucks who want to see her die.
But she still wants her bucket load of meds. I’m surprised the pharmacy hasn’t cut her off by now too. She’s isolating herself by being so openly rude and bitter online, who’s going to want to be her friend in real life? Maybe she should try the approach of ‘treat people as you would like to be treated’ and she might get somewhere.

Something like ‘I am so sorry to take up your time I know you are very busy right now, I just have some concerns over my medication and a few symptoms I’ve been having. It’s causing me great anxiety and I would be really grateful if you could give me a call or respond with some advice. Thank you, Laura’

That is really all it would take.
 
Laura shares the same munchie obsession of adrenal insufficiency as her long-lost religious ginger cousin Anna the Ginger Vegan.

Adrenal insufferable insufficiency bullshit was so popular in munchie circles for awhile. Did the hot fad for it fade away because it didn’t come with lots of narcotic and benzo scripts?

Also, no surprise Laura takes Rx speed. Taking her off the adderall would probably greatly dial down the crazy, or at least considerably reduce her energy to manically pursue unneeded medical treatment.
 
Morgan is moving Facebook groups again. The only thing recently that seemed to warrant it, is when people kept telling her temporal thermometers aren't accurate. Apparently she took offense that no one thought she just runs fevers in rare and unusual ways 🤔🤷‍♂️
Laurie and Morgan are doing damage control since the post on Reddit about how Laurie asked the mother of a recently deceased girl to send her the leftover pain medications because Morgan isn’t prescribed enough. Laurie hasn’t denied she did it, she’s just having a meltdown that people now know
 
Laurie and Morgan are doing damage control since the post on Reddit about how Laurie asked the mother of a recently deceased girl to send her the leftover pain medications because Morgan isn’t prescribed enough. Laurie hasn’t denied she did it, she’s just having a meltdown that people now know
It is humiliating and really weird, so she probably should feel shame. Weirdly, Morgan does not seem to.
 
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