General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Namesarehardtocomeupwith]

So back then I posted a screen cap of a 4chan anon coming out to his family about liking Gura and got mocked for it because he failed to hide his powerlevel. The recent incident with Null, albeit unrelated, makes me thing about that a lot. When it's all said and done, it's easy to say that he came off as aggressive to regular posters in the thread because he picked some literally who vtuber who appears on his fediverse and started demanding explanation. Anon's family called him a pedo for watching Gura, same shit.

However, the important takeaway for me is that you can't force your hobby onto anyone. Force is a strong words but you get what I mean, vtuber and anime to an extend, while isn't more weird or outlandish than other hobbies out there, is still a niche and comes off as unorthodox to others and you can't make somebody get it. When talking to people who share your hobbies, you have a sense of how much you can talk and how far you can go without before it start to come off as spergy. On the contrary, when you're speaking to those who doesn't, you aren't even sure whether or not what you're talking about make sense to them in the first place. Even after @moments fade pain remains saved the thread (God bless you), he only convinced Null that vtuber isn't full of pedobaits that could endanger his site, not making him stop hating it in general. It is what it is.

TL;DR: Don't waste your time explaining yourself or forcing it on those who don't get your hobbies. Enjoy it with those who do. Just so you know, you guys are all faggots and I hate all of you, but you're my kind of faggots and I will defend to death your rights to post vtubers.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk. Here's the screenshot in question if you want to see more for yourself.



And now back to regular programing.

Kizuna got sponsored by a garbage disposal / waste management company to raise awareness about the environment. Would you live in a pod and eat bugs if your oshi demanded it?

 

[Cubanodun]

RIP Korone Sonic Adventure disc, it went to the great Valhalla of badly keep disc



Edit: Sonic Adventure 2 disc is ok

Edit 2: All Konami games are Halal so she want to play Suikoden and milk the Sega permits with Samba de amigo

 

[Cagestage]

Look dad I'm in the screencaps! While I have some twitter user's attention: you are, always have been, and always will be, a niggerfaggot

Can we please get back to our regularly scheduled programming? I know most of you view Vshojo as cancer but has anyone else noticed that the members have kinda drifted since the org became a thing? Seems like they enjoy doing collabs with other people more than each other now lol

Honestly, they didn't do a ton of collabs before either, it's more they're now collabing more frequently in general, just with a wider range of people.

Though I'm really enjoying the Lumi and Melody collab going on right now.

 

[Mister O.]

Kizuna got sponsored by a garbage disposal / waste management company

So that explains her upcoming collab with Nyanners

BADDA BOOM

 

[Sithis]

Feel like that's a common occurance for twitch streamers. You can be in the same stream team/group/organization and not have a collaborative stream for a good stretch.

More blessed Korone playing Megaman, what a time to be alive

Seems they used to collab more frequently pre-vshojo though to be honest. At one point it was pretty much once a week you'd see at least Mel/Ironmouse/Silver. Now it may be once or twice a month they all collab. They split off into groups, seems Zen and Froot do a lot together while Mel and Mouse both do their own things with other streamers and Mouse hangs with Nyanners, Silver still hangs a lot with Veibae. Idk. But it legit seems like they have formed fractions within the group lol

Though I'm really enjoying the Lumi and Melody collab going on right now.

Holy shit they're still going? Seems like they were on with Merryweather hours ago when I was boredsurfing. Lumi seems pretty high energy I enjoyed what I saw and Merry is fun with his obscure Euro humor.

 

[Cagestage]

Seems they used to collab more frequently pre-vshojo though to be honest. At one point it was pretty much once a week you'd see at least Mel/Ironmouse/Silver. Now it may be once or twice a month they all collab. They split off into groups, seems Zen and Froot do a lot together while Mel and Mouse both do their own things with other streamers and Mouse hangs with Nyanners, Silver still hangs a lot with Veibae. Idk. But it legit seems like they have formed fractions within the group lol

Yeah large group collabs seem to be less frequent, but most of them collab with another member of vshojo at least once a week. Mousey is at 2-3 a week between VN reading, Dark souls w/ Nyanners, and whatever she's doing with Hime this week.

Holy shit they're still going? Seems like they were on with Merryweather hours ago when I was boredsurfing. Lumi seems pretty high energy I enjoyed what I saw and Merry is fun with his obscure Euro humor.

They just finished. Merry had to leave early so the girls made plans to collab again next week after he left. I particularily enjoyed the cute noise exchange between Lumi and Melly.

 

[Thomas Talus]

VShoujo is more of a co-op than a company like Hololive, so I don't know that they need to stick with each other all the time.

 

[Gravemind]

Even after @moments fade pain remains saved the thread (God bless you), he only convinced Null that vtuber isn't full of pedobaits that could endanger his site, not making him stop hating it in general. It is what it is.

TL;DR: Don't waste your time explaining yourself or forcing it on those who don't get your hobbies. Enjoy it with those who do.

Pretty sure most of us here already understand that. In fact, I'd like to point out that there were a few people who came into the thread as formerly impartial observers who gave reasonable enough explanations regarding what vtubing and its appeal is, but it seems like Null just decided to gloss those over and only really go with whatever @moments fade pain remains explained to him in private.

Feels a bit disingenuous out of Dear Leader dumping all the credit on him as though he were the only one who made a good case, but I suppose it all falls back to what you just said about Null sticking to his guns regardless.

 

[Cubanodun]

nd only really go with whatever @moments fade pain remains explained to him in private.

He is a hololiver, let the rrat race begin

Edit: wait Okayu has a Bilibili ID on her ending? i never noticed until now

Edit 2: Korone believe her true rival is a streamer called "Kacho", is she talking about Arino?

 

[Revo]

The situation of this thread rn and this user called @moments fade pain remains are living up with this name/motto rn: Moments fade pain remains

 

[mr.moon1488]

So back then I posted a screen cap of a 4chan anon coming out to his family about liking Gura and got mocked for it because he failed to hide his powerlevel. The recent incident with Null, albeit unrelated, makes me thing about that a lot. When it's all said and done, it's easy to say that he came off as aggressive to regular posters in the thread because he picked some literally who vtuber who appears on his fediverse and started demanding explanation. Anon's family called him a pedo for watching Gura, same shit.

However, the important takeaway for me is that you can't force your hobby onto anyone. Force is a strong words but you get what I mean, vtuber and anime to an extend, while isn't more weird or outlandish than other hobbies out there, is still a niche and comes off as unorthodox to others and you can't make somebody get it. When talking to people who share your hobbies, you have a sense of how much you can talk and how far you can go without before it start to come off as spergy. On the contrary, when you're speaking to those who doesn't, you aren't even sure whether or not what you're talking about make sense to them in the first place. Even after @moments fade pain remains saved the thread (God bless you), he only convinced Null that vtuber isn't full of pedobaits that could endanger his site, not making him stop hating it in general. It is what it is.

TL;DR: Don't waste your time explaining yourself or forcing it on those who don't get your hobbies. Enjoy it with those who do. Just so you know, you guys are all faggots and I hate all of you, but you're my kind of faggots and I will defend to death your rights to post vtubers.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk. Here's the screenshot in question if you want to see more for yourself.

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And now back to regular programing.

Kizuna got sponsored by a garbage disposal / waste management company to raise awareness about the environment. Would you live in a pod and eat bugs if your oshi demanded it?

I really don't know why people bitch about Gura. The actual person behind the persona has to be at least 18 because Hololive requires it. The content is more G-rated than what you see real child actors doing on most shows and movies. On the rare occasion her avatar is even visible below the neck level, it's wearing an oversized hoodie. There likely are a few nonce coomers following her, but odds are fair that you have a lot more of those types following US child actors where Hollyjew encourages that sort of thing, rather than what you do with her where the behavior is discouraged by Hololive. I think a lot of it really is that a lot of westerners these days do just have a sick mind, so they read sexual shit into something that's not even remotely sexual.

 

[Airless]

She is asian though, so its kind of a wildcard. I was just curious if anything had been discovered.

She told a story at one point about how she stopped going to gyms because guys would hit on her. She's not really a braggart so I'm inclined to believe the story but it also happened before she became a vtuber. At this point it's probably a coin toss to which genetics are stronger, Japanese or Burger.

That pun is so bad

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I miss him everyday..

 

[I am not here]

my japanese vocabulary grows with each Korone Japanese Study Time. I now know how to use dogeza

and now she's quizzing us.. blessed dog

 

[moments fade pain remains]

Pretty sure most of us here already understand that. In fact, I'd like to point out that there were a few people who came into the thread as formerly impartial observers who gave reasonable enough explanations regarding what vtubing and its appeal is, but it seems like Null just decided to gloss those over and only really go with whatever @moments fade pain remains explained to him in private.

Feels a bit disingenuous out of Dear Leader dumping all the credit on him as though he were the only one who made a good case, but I suppose it all falls back to what you just said about Null sticking to his guns regardless.

I am one of those that read every post of this thread, because my psychology says that I have to. You are right, there were a lot of impartial observers over the tens of pages the drama was going on. I started a conversation with Null after he pulled the plug. And, to tell you the truth, I wasn't optimistic at all. I was just trying to give a better conclusion to all of this by saying that things could have been handled better. But, things went better than expected and this image below describes it to the tee.

 

[Style]

I just saw the title, wondered what happened and read a few pages.

Goddamn, people.

 

[augment]

I believe Korone stated Arino as being the single main influence in her doing the retro gaming thang. Well she and Okayu mostly.

 

[kuuu]

I really don't know why people bitch about Gura. The actual person behind the persona has to be at least 18 because Hololive requires it. The content is more G-rated than what you see real child actors doing on most shows and movies. On the rare occasion her avatar is even visible below the neck level, it's wearing an oversized hoodie. There likely are a few nonce coomers following her, but odds are fair that you have a lot more of those types following US child actors where Hollyjew encourages that sort of thing, rather than what you do with her where the behavior is discouraged by Hololive. I think a lot of it really is that a lot of westerners these days do just have a sick mind, so they read sexual shit into something that's not even remotely sexual.

Literally projecting plus anti-animu bias. Which you yourself kinda wrote. And with how media spreads, people that do lewds/fanfics/shit like that end up on the radar of compulsive-complainers(whose numbers are growing every year for some reason) resulting in reinforcement of aforementioned beliefs, arming them with a very broad brush. New type of media, same shit.
And obviously the reality of the situation (i.e. actors age or general circumstances) doesn't matter whatsoever.
In this timeline having common sense is a superpower, apparently.

But hey, not going to twitter is always an option. From my understanding this is the main source of people like that. Everywhere else they are in the very vocal minority.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Just warning about the account ban and ommiting the threadban thing completely is good enough i guess.

Fixed.

via @LullerDerbyRollin
https://twitter.com/VTuberCringe/status/1375827489222762499
Well then.

Spoiler

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I like that their idea of a serious crime is posting photos and stream screen caps of their roommates which a majority of time, they don’t show their face or are wearing a mask. Also sometimes it isn’t even us, but other people posting videos on YouTube

I'm not sure what's more hilarious – the fact that VTuberCringe went through all that trouble to continually document this thread while the Null crisis was ongoing (speaking of, which one of our regular faggots are you, anyway?), or the fact that he even included my shitposts as something worth documenting on Twitter.

Also, saw this in his replies:
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Ah, yes, the "serious crime" of doxxing that we don't even really commit ourselves in this thread (aside form people reposting what's already been posted elsewhere for the most part).

We survived Null, but can we survive the wrath of Cover DMCAs?

EDIT: I apparently long since got ninja'd on this one. Oh well.

These Twitter retards don't even what doxing is and none of the Hololive VTubers have been doxed.
Twitter was a mistake.

 

[Gravemind]

Tangentially related to the recent happenings of this thread:

Someone apparently saw fit to call it to people's attention in VTuberCringe's replies that Null's spergout is being talked about on OnionFarms as well.

Something about the fact that we have some amount of Twitter discussion and OF discussion about this, and now there's overlap between the two, is just kind of making the whole aftermath of this recent event feel a little like so:

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Tangentially related to the recent happenings of this thread:

Someone apparently saw fit to call it to people's attention in VTuberCringe's replies that Null's spergout is being talked about on OnionFarms as well.

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That would be TeaClips.
TeaClips would clip from Internet Bloodsport channels and post the highlights on YouTube.
Not sure what her beef is with Null, but I'm willing to say it has to do with @theralph.