The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[Applejack is Best Pony]

Yeah George was a criminal, but that's what the legal system should be for, not the bastardization we have currently. I just don't think anyone besides pedophiles should die screaming with their face mashed into the concrete.

"Have mercy on the drugged out scumbag who held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach and robbed her! At least he wasn't a pedophile."
George Floyd absolutely deserved to die with his face mashed into the concrete. Deserved worse, if you ask me. And you do too, if that offends you.

 

[Random Internet Person]

wonder whats going through Chauvin mind right now. think he regrets it?

Well, he was willing to do a plea deal, but prosecution wasn't having it.

 

[General Tug Boat]

Wow what fucked up timing for this happening, as soon as the weather is beginning to get nicer on the east coast.
ITS ALMOST AS IF THEY WANT PEOPLE TO GATHER AT THE AUTOZONE THIS YEAR FOR THE PANDEMIC SPECIAL...

In all seriousness though, this is just going to be another excuse for larpers to act like animals another summer. Considering that its almost riot season I hope you fuckers upgraded the fiber for the summer. Along with, stocked up on the shit tickets, ammo, and the popcorn. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

 

[Basketball Jones]

Anecdotal at best, and you're trying to make it all about you.
Here's another consideration; every movement the body makes has directional bias, including the diaphragm. You have more strength to close your jaw than open it, et cetera. It just so happens that the diaphragm has more power on the exhale.

Lol I’m not trying to make it all about me. I’m just saying that I can see where the logic of the phrase comes from.

And even with that statement under consideration, it doesn’t change my mind about him being unable to breathe as a direct result of the knee because he was saying that long before he was on the ground.

 

[Plank]

How are people still babbling about 'teh knee'.

The four police officers acted straight out of their training:

https://spectator.org/george-floyd-police-training-minneapolis/

https://archive.is/NSP1m

Go back to the Minnesota requirements for each of the three charges:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/the-trial-of-derek-chauvin.87600/page-29#post-8648844

and explain how a police office acting in a way straight out of his official training was "an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind" or "person creates an unreasonable risk".

This article is from eight fucking months ago.

 

[AnOminous]

"Have mercy on the drugged out scumbag who held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach and robbed her! At least he wasn't a pedophile."
George Floyd absolutely deserved to die with his face mashed into the concrete. Deserved worse, if you ask me. And you do too, if that offends you.

Chauvin didn't know any of that. It isn't up to cops to make personal decisions to execute some fuck anyway. Cops are mostly pretty dumb, not by normal person standards, but there's a reason some police departments literally will refuse to hire you if you score too high on their IQ test (I am not making this up).

I generally agree George Floyd was pretty much a piece of shit and deserved to die in some general sense, but what Chauvin did just isn't how professional police should be expected to behave.

and explain how a police office acting in a way straight out of his official training was "an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind" or "person creates an unreasonable risk".

That very clearly states to put the suspect in "the recovery position" and that's this:

So please tell me the time stamped part of the video, at what point after he'd been dead for several minutes, did they put him in this position?

 

[Bugs_Galore]

Not much of value in that city from what I can tell

Hey c'mon, the Mall Of America is pretty cool. Y'know when there aren't Somalian nogs throwing kids off balconies for shits and giggles.

I cannot fucking believe they didn't ship the trial off to another state and decided to have it in Minneapolis. I fully expect the city to burn down. I have a friend who hangs out regularly in downtown Minneapolis and he knows quite a few less than savory individuals who live down there, from what he says about the way people talk about the trial it's not if the city is going to burn again but simply when. People are asking questions like "What are you doing during the next riots?" or "Are you gonna go to the upcoming riots". He told me about a guy who literally planned a fucking riot shopping list. The nogs and city trash are salivating at the mouth preparing for the possibility to chimp out again and destroy Minneapolis.

They know that Jacob Frey is a spineless coward who will cuck out to the mob immediately and not do anything about the prolonged rioting. He didn't do anything last time so now they're emboldened to up the ante this time. Just in case anybody was wondering what the wonderful mayor of Minneapolis looks like, he looks like Justin Tredeau's gay lovechild. He is pictured below in a wonderful pair of Hillary Clinton kneesocks.

 

[AnOminous]

In all seriousness though, this is just going to be another excuse for larpers to act like animals another summer. Considering that its almost riot season I hope you fuckers upgraded the fiber for the summer. Along with, stocked up on the shit tickets, ammo, and the popcorn. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

My prediction is a chimpout when the verdict comes back that he's guilty of something but it isn't murder.

And then, if an appeals court reverses even that because the jury is as biased as any jury I've ever even heard of, another chimpout.

And I don't mean black people by chimpout even, I mean antifa fucks even more, who are lily white as fuck and act even more like apes.

 

[Rungle]

I meant in the trial. I believe everyone here has seen the BD footage.

 

[Chicken Picnic]

Exactly why you should live in a region less than 1% Black in addition to it being fairly conservative.

An armed society is a polite society.

Looks like a recovery position to me. Part of standard police training:
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A little late but timezones innit

This picture here is not showing the recovery position. At all. The recover position is on your side, head tilted upwards to open up the airway and typically with a hand under your head for support (but handcuffs make that bit moot).

As for what cop man may or may not be guilty of, I was looking at what constitutes murder etc in America land as the concept of 1st/2nd/3rd degree is alien to me. Apparently, in the state this is happening in, third degree murder can also include killing someone via actions that may not have intended to kill, but the actions showed the person had a disregard for the impact they may of had on the victim's wellbeing.

Cop man was repeatedly told to check Floyd's pulse, was advised to roll him onto his side and even kept restraining him after the emergency services arrived. The argument was made yesterday in court that he still had his knee on Floyd after the paramedics had checked and not found a pulse. It wasn't until they brought over the trolley to put him in the ambulance that he stopped.

Obviously it's up to the jury, but I could see how that could be viewed as very heartless behaviour. The guy was cuffed and if someone was holding his legs, letting up just to check his pulse would have taken seconds. I believe there's definitely an argument that could be made that the actions the cops took showed a disregard for Floyd's wellbeing. They may have have been legitimate techniques, but when the guy who's been relatively vocal and anxious under you stops talking/moving and bystanders are very concerned about that, you should probably check if the guy's ok or not. He was handcuffed and other officers appeared to be restraining his lower half so it's not like the guy could have gotten up and ran off the moment he removed his knee.

I don't think the cops intended to kill or even harm Floyd. Here, what happened would just be considered manslaughter or negligence. But you folks across the pond have to make it difficult by adding weird ass "degrees of murder" to the pot

 

[Division2]

Would anyone be really surprised if Chauvin ends up guilty?

I think he might actually get a lower charge. The drug use, at least to me, plays a significant role in the situation that day, along with Chauvin's egregious actions.

 

[AnOminous]

Cop man was repeatedly told to check Floyd's pulse, was advised to roll him onto his side and even kept restraining him after the emergency services arrived.

Rolling him onto his side, incidentally, is the "recovery position" they advise in the manual that you move the restrained person into. I'm not sure why people supporting Chauvin would want to cite that because he quite clearly fucked up according to the very plain PowerPoint level instructions in that manual.

I don't think the cops intended to kill or even harm Floyd. Here, what happened would just be considered manslaughter or negligence. But you folks across the pond have to make it difficult by adding weird ass "degrees of murder" to the pot

I'm not sure where you're from, but while the terms of "degrees" of murder originate in the United States, the general concept that there are forms of homicide more serious than others comes straight from common law in the United Kingdom and is based on Blackstone's Commentaries, which while we have derogated from them by statute and subsequent law, are still fundamentally similar.

"Third degree murder" is a peculiarity of some jurisdictions. In most places in the United States, we'd call this something like "negligent homicide" or "manslaughter" or use some term other than "murder" for it too. Minnesota is slightly peculiar in that they have "third degree murder" as well as "manslaughter." Okay, Minnesota, you be you.

Incidentally, fun fact: "third degree murder" exists in only three states in the U.S.: Pennsylvania, Minnesota, and Florida.

 

[artilleryfroth]

wonder whats going through Chauvin mind right now. think he regrets it?

Probably he regrets bringing such a shitstorm down on himself. Floyd was probably going to jail anyway for the forgery and the drugs, someone else in jail could have knelt on his neck and Chauvin would still have a job. Or if the overdose was going to kill him anyway, Chauvin could have kept a safe distance and let it play out.

 

[Leopold II of Belgium]

Hope they riot more so I can turn more people racist

 

[lemme ASS you a question]

He's going to be charged guilty, no way would they risk another riot by saying otherwise. Besides, there is going to be no unbiased jury, he's going to be sentanced for sure

 

[AcidityLiquidity]

wonder whats going through Chauvin mind right now. think he regrets it?

I can't even begin to imagine what the poor guy is thinking. The entire [[[media]]] has labeled him evil white neon nazi supreme-ist, and I can only imagine after hearing that 24/7 for years now that guy is close to if not already at a mental breaking point. His wife left him, and he is known and will forever be known as the 'guy who killed Saint Fentanyl Floyd'

Probably just thinking he is one of the must unlucky mother fuckers on the planet right now.

 

[cyberdick]

what do you guys think will happen when they eventually declare everyone not guilty?

 

[Dumpsterfire Enthusiast]

Saint Floyd the patron saint of mushmouths. How many others have tried that “ I can’t breathe line”. Cops must be sick of hearing it. Chauvin was out of line though & deserves a charge of some kind though. Thug with a fucking badge. Power trip.

This is so fucking obvious & simple but the amount of fuckwits it doesn’t register with is insane. Same as the ‘levels’ for murder & manslaughter.

Didnt need the knee on his neck when he could have just put it on his back instead or just stood back and tackled him if he tried getting up but i really doubt that there was any intention to kill him

 

[SITHRAK!]

Yeah George was a criminal, but that's what the legal system should be for, not the bastardization we have currently. I just don't think anyone besides pedophiles should die screaming with their face mashed into the concrete.

Floyd died in hospital, you hyperbolic dweeb.

 

[HumanHive]

what do you guys think will happen when they eventually declare everyone not guilty?

That won’t happen, though. The jury is going to go along with the third degree murder charge in an attempt to avoid a lifetime of death threats.