The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
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So maybe I’m a retard (most likely true). But when I did my calculations on the Fentanyl this wouldn’t be anywhere near a lethal dose.

2-3 mg is the lethal dose for Fentanyl, but at 223 lbs (during autopsy) he would’ve had 0.08mg of Fentanyl in his his system.

I’m sure theres something I’m missing (either in calculations or in how these drugs interact with each other). But in case I’m not wrong, wouldn’t it be a bad idea for the defense to emphasize the Fentanyl if its not anywhere near the lethal dose?
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IIRC Floyd was at 11 ng/ml of Fentanyl in the hospital blood draw.
Plus other stuff.
 
No you fucking won't. You'll post racist memes online to your friends and cross the street to avoid black people in real life just like most of the tough guys in this thread.
It's the same as mentally handicapped black people saying one day they will move to Wakanda and return to the motherland to get away from whitey. It's the same shit every day.

Plus COVID, plus sickle cell, plus 85%+ blockage in all his major arteries, plus a history of heart disease, etc and so on.

Dude was rolling the dice on the daily.
IMO cops should have an AED in the car just ready to go, anyway.
 
So maybe I’m a retard (most likely true). But when I did my calculations on the Fentanyl this wouldn’t be anywhere near a lethal dose.

2-3 mg is the lethal dose for Fentanyl, but at 223 lbs (during autopsy) he would’ve had 0.08mg of Fentanyl in his his system.

I’m sure theres something I’m missing (either in calculations or in how these drugs interact with each other). But in case I’m not wrong, wouldn’t it be a bad idea for the defense to emphasize the Fentanyl if its not anywhere near the lethal dose?
I think the argument is that he wasn't in good health to begin with, and the drugs tipped him over the edge.
 
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No matter what happens, there'll be rioting. But it'll probably fizzle out like last time and as long as you aren't balls deep in a Dem-run city it won't affect you much, if at all.

I live in a safe area, so I'll just look at the chimpout streams with a cup of tea in hand, be mildly amused for an hour, then fuck off to play STALKER.

Happenings keep escalating and deescalating so rapidly that I doubt even the results of this trial will last much more than a month, max. It's kind of scary actually, it's like real life events are mirroring social media in how frequently they occur and disappear as people's attention spans shorten.
I live in a dem city that got rocked last summer, albeit in a really white ethnic neighborhood. A few days after the big riots they had a march through our little main drag of bars and shops past the police station. The most ironic part was that most of the young black guys marching and young white guys drinking on bar patios exchanged hellos/lets stop this bullshit while the white sjw types were pissed about the people at bars congregating and not wearing masks. Nothing happened. I was kinda pissed.
 
I’m sure theres something I’m missing (either in calculations or in how these drugs interact with each other). But in case I’m not wrong, wouldn’t it be a bad idea for the defense to emphasize the Fentanyl if its not anywhere near the lethal dose?
Not in particular. The entire trial rests on Chauvin's team proving that he was acting according to procedure, and that he had no ill intent/indifference and did not put Floyd in a potentially risky position needlessly.

The actual death itself is likely going to be chopped up to a combination of causes: heart condition, drugs, adrenaline, etc + the knee on neck.

If he can prove knee on neck is procedure, then second degree murder charge goes away because Chauvin was not in the process of committing a felony and it can't be stretched as abnormal practice.

Third degree murder should still have been tossed out imo, but the thing that this hinges on is "depraved mind". Its also a stretch, but shouldn't really be used in cases involving cops doing their duty, because while they can fuckup, the gross indifference to human life thing is more akin to that pakistani carjacking and I just don't see that within this case. You also have similar precedents where it was tossed out as a charge vs cops within the same court, which is why the Judge tossed it out initially, but woke politics demanded it be added again.

Second degree unintentional manslaughter is similar to third degree murder, but it doesn't have to rely on a depraved mind/gross indifference to human life. It relies on putting someone else in a situation that has a significant and unreasonable risk to their life, and that situation resulting in their death. Its the only charge that I think would have a chance of sticking under normal circumstances, and also the one with the lowest jailtime. Will Chauvin be able to prove that the situation did not have unreasonable risk? No, I don't think he will. Argued it in another thread, but the position he placed Floyd in could have contributed to his death, and thats what the prosecution will secure in their argument. That Chauvin should have taken his knee off of Floyd's neck once Floyd's breathing was getting significantly more shallow, and that's where the witnesses will come in, including the other cops testimony potentially. This doesn't rely on the procedure itself being criminal or wrong, but just that he continued with the procedure for too long when he should have switched to another one, thus engaging in unreasonable risk that could have contributed to Floyd's death.
 
I can see this going one of two ways.

1. Chauvin gets railroaded.
2. Chauvin is acquitted and the ensuing riots are stamped out quick smart further proving last summer's riots could have been ended without incident.
Yeah the DHS will be out in full force if it starts up again. Biden and Kamala quite literally can't let it happen. The Dems only hope in the next election is to make sure there isn't a massive debacle.
 
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Cops aren't the judge, jury, and executioner. Derek Chauvin chose to pull George Floyd out of his car, he chose to kneel on a handcuffed man's neck while there were 3 other officers and eventually a crowd of people around. Regardless of how they falsified that lab result, Derek Chauvin is a cold-blooded murderer. And anyone carrying water for the state is an enormous cuck.

I suppose for y'all, it's all fun and games until it happens to someone you know, then I guess you can show the deathsquads on your punch card how many times you whiteknighted them online. Then maybe they won't send you to the fucking camps they're building out in the desert en masse.
 
Don’t forget that the DA and prosecutor in the Zimmerman trial conspired to put a false witness (Jeantel) on the stand and coached her to lie under oath.
Neither of them was disbarred when the truth came out.
what? she was terrible witness because she was retarded but did they really conspire?
 
Yeah the DHS will be out in full force if it starts up again. Biden and Kamala quite literally can't let it happen. The Dems only hope in the next election is to make sure there isn't a massive debacle.
Don't think so, there have been massive debacle under the blue team and it doesn't hurt them. People don't really care unless it benefits them. See: kids in cages, which now looks like a burrito storage with all the aluminum wrap


Anyway, they have "fortified" the elections
 
I suppose for y'all, it's all fun and games until it happens to someone you know, then I guess you can show the deathsquads on your punch card how many times you whiteknighted them online.
Nigga, you are 10000% more likely to die from a car accident or a heart attack instead of some cop kneeing you to death, lol.
 
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