General GunTuber thread

[Spicey McHaggis]

$1200 for a fucking Mauser is batshit insane. I just paid $750 for a lightly defaced 1940 k98 with a good bore. People are going nuts on pricing.

 

[Mr. Confederate Man]

I stopped by my LGS today to look around and basic bitch no name stripped lowers were going for $250. The gun market is in absolute clown world right now with pricing.

Mine tried to sell me a plastic lower for ~80 and I put an Anderson on order for ~100 with taxes included. $250 is fucking outrageous.

 

[White Devil]

It's always been my opinion that paying more than a few hundred bucks for WWII milsurp is insane. I wouldn't buy a Mosin at todays prices if I didn't have one before, and definitely not the inflated bullshit that K98s go for.

@Mr. Confederate Man
You can find Andersons online all day long for $40ish starting.

 

[Mr. Confederate Man]

@Mr. Confederate Man
You can find Andersons online all day long for $40ish starting.

Well, shit. Guess that's what I get for spending my homework time looking at barrels.

 

[White Devil]

Craptastic shit like Anderson, PSA, and 17 Design are about all you can find in stock anywhere. A couple places might have some Aeros. I'm talking about stripped lowers of course. I saw one site with a single Wilson Combat in stock but that's probably long gone now.

 

[Mr. Confederate Man]

Craptastic shit like Anderson, PSA, and 17 Design are about all you can find in stock anywhere. A couple places might have some Aeros. I'm talking about stripped lowers of course. I saw one site with a single Wilson Combat in stock but that's probably long gone now.

Now, I've heard of PSA having QC issues, but what's the deal with Anderson? Isn't the first time I've heard them getting thrown in. I used one on my last (also first) build and been happy with it.

 

[White Devil]

Now, I've heard of PSA having QC issues, but what's the deal with Anderson? Isn't the first time I've heard them getting thrown in. I used one on my last (also first) build and been happy with it.

Several years ago, a lot of the senior staff of Anderson quit or got fired, I dont remember which, and took with them most of their QA department. Since about 2014-2015 I want to say, Anderson has been famous for out of spec lowers in hilarious (and sometimes hilariously dangerous) ways. Also that no lube required bullshit they market is unsafe at best and will destroy your rifle eventually.

That's not to say all their products are bad, it's just a lottery if you'll get something ok or something shit and I don't like to gamble on cheap shit because I don't consider any of my weapons as "toys". PSA has had a storied history of cutting corners on EVERYTHING and I won't even give them business to buy other brands that they sell. I still shake my fucking head at officers who use PSAs as their patrol rifles.

17 Design I have frankly never heard of before, but I assume all low price lowers are cut from the same corner cutting cloth. Keep in mind there's only like three or four foundries in the US that even turn out lowers (though I believe S&W have their own for their lowers and their frames for revolvers), so everyone is getting their shit from the same place ultimately, but it's the end QC that matters and it turns out decent QC costs money.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

Mine tried to sell me a plastic lower for ~80 and I put an Anderson on order for ~100 with taxes included. $250 is fucking outrageous.

Not to poo on your parade but I bought an Anderson upper earlier this year and the piece of shit doesn't fit on any lower I own. Totally out of spec. But I paid $290 for it (no BCG/CH obviously) so I'm not sure what I expected.

 

[White Devil]

Not to poo on your parade but I bought an Anderson upper earlier this year and the piece of shit doesn't fit on any lower I own. Totally out of spec. But I paid $290 for it (no BCG/CH obviously) so I'm not sure what I expected.

You got taken, my dude.

F in chat for your wallet, never trust the Poverty Pony.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

The only Ian/furry connection I've ever seen was the one circulated drawing that he didn't make, so that's a slight stretch in my opinion.

Yeah, Cokeman's retracted that one.

 

[Mr. Confederate Man]

no lube required

Yeah, I'd never trust a claim like that. Guns are mechanical devices and therefore need lubrication. Thanks for the backstory on the company. I had no idea all of that went on.

Not to poo on your parade but I bought an Anderson upper earlier this year and the piece of shit doesn't fit on any lower I own. Totally out of spec. But I paid $290 for it (no BCG/CH obviously) so I'm not sure what I expected.

Thank god I'm only going for a stripped lower. Upper on my other rifle is a Brownells and the one for this project is an original Colt A1 upper.

 

[White Devil]

As with anything, do your research and buy once, cry once. You really do get what you pay for when it comes to firearms and their accessories. Like the guys who put a cheap $13 dollar Chinese mount off Amazon on their mid-high tier rifle with a $1000+ scope. This is something I have actually seen, and the guy was wondering why his accuracy was shit.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

As with anything, do your research and buy once, cry once. You really do get what you pay for when it comes to firearms and their accessories. Like the guys who put a cheap $13 dollar Chinese mount off Amazon on their mid-high tier rifle with a $1000+ scope. This is something I have actually seen, and the guy was wondering why his accuracy was shit.

Still better than that one time at the range I saw a guy shooting a flattop AR with nothing on it.

 

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

"I'm not gonna provide proof because I know it's true"

Best part of the video. Only wish it was in the beginning so that I could skip the rest of his very late and dumb ramblings.

The only Ian/furry connection I've ever seen was the one circulated drawing that he didn't make, so that's a slight stretch in my opinion.

A furry ran the forgottenweapons subreddit for awhile. No idea if he still does. Ian is adjacent to a lot degenerates so it's only a matter of time before something damning comes out.

 

[Mr. Confederate Man]

A furry ran the forgottenweapons subreddit for awhile. No idea if he still does. Ian is adjacent to a lot degenerates so it's only a matter of time before something damning comes out.

I really doubt it at this point. Ian seems to be really good at keeping personal things off of the web, but then again, if Karl’s jealousy overflows, who knows what will come out

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

It's always been my opinion that paying more than a few hundred bucks for WWII milsurp is insane. I wouldn't buy a Mosin at todays prices if I didn't have one before, and definitely not the inflated bullshit that K98s go for.

@Mr. Confederate Man
You can find Andersons online all day long for $40ish starting.

The problem is that the supply of fresh imports on a lot of milsurp is long gone in most cases. Then you have stuff like forgotten weapons increasing interest in them, which drives up prices even more. My opinion is that the days of cheap milsurp rifles is over, sad as that may be.

 

[White Devil]

The problem is that the supply of fresh imports on a lot of milsurp is long gone in most cases. Then you have stuff like forgotten weapons increasing interest in them, which drives up prices even more. My opinion is that the days of cheap milsurp rifles is over, sad as that may be.

Days of cheap milsurp have been over for almost a decade. That doesn't mean a lot of those rifles are actually worth their current pricing.

 

[HumptiDouji]

The main issues with Mitchell's is they hooned the bolts for no fucking reason

I really wonder why they chromed the bolts, like, was the assumption that they would look more attractive and valuable that way?

My opinion is that the days of cheap milsurp rifles is over, sad as that may be.

That's the cycle of anything collectible. It's expensive on launch, gets cheap as its deemed obsolete, then gets expensive, maybe very expensive once it becomes a desired collectible.
Look at NES videogames, in 2000 they were like a dollar a piece because they were looked at as outmoded, but over time people looked back at them and realized that a lot of those old things were actually good.

I don't see the point in people complaining about this aspect of anything collectible, that's simply how it goes, if you were there at the right time when it was cheap, good on you, but you had no reason to assume this would continue forever.

That doesn't mean a lot of those rifles are actually worth their current pricing.

Things are generally worth what people are willing to pay for them. People can overcharge, like that poor bubbarized 1941 Johnson rifle which the owner has been trying to flip for $8k for about a decade now, but if M48s generally go for $300, I don't think that's particularly extreme.

 

[White Devil]

Just because you're willing to overpay for something doesn't mean it's worth it. People love to spin that line to cover for poor impulse control and outright stupidity.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

I really wonder why they chromed the bolts, like, was the assumption that they would look more attractive and valuable that way?

Just based on where I saw their ads back in the day 10-15 years ago now, their market was people who aren't actually firearm collectors. So they were trying to appeal to normies, mostly boomers, with a passing interest in WW2 who don't know any better. Hooning the bolts and overplaying "GENUINE WW2 GERMAN NAZI SS NAZI WW2 GERMAN WW2 WW2" in ads was how they decided to go about it.
Side note, that MLP Mauser that gets posted every now and then to troll people, that was a Mitchell's Mauser, so it was fucked before the brony even got his hands on it, which is why I don't really get too upset whenever I see it.


Cokeman retracting his comments about Ian because it turns out it was not actually Ian consorting with furries, but an Ian cosplayer. Also tells a story about getting pulled over while carrying.