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Did you know that one of them was actually an animated skeleton?This is one of the same lawyers that Zimmerman had
edit: Zimmerman had more than one lawyer
I think the answer to that is, yes.Should they have gotten their shit together sooner? Maybe.
Yeah, well, theyre also cops and I do hold them to a reasonable standard. If it becomes a situation where it does seem like a guy is choking out- even if it turns out that there was nothing that could be done, Id like to know that the police are at least going to try and do what they can to mitigate things. Maybe moving him to an upright position would have been better for better air flow. Considering the video has him in multiple positions, and finally the knee-on-neck much to his detriment, there does seem to be room for adapting to the situation- which police need to be able to do. Other cops saying 'maybe we should switch positions' is the understatement of the century.But they were in a stressful situation with a hostile crowd gathering. They're only human.
I think he would have died because of the fentanyl, but this trial is less about that, more about did Chauvin do things properly.I don't deny that St George may not have died if things had gone down differently
I agree with you here 100% on the 2nd degree unintentional murder and 3rd degree murder, but disagree on 2nd degree manslaughter. I think I highlighted the difference between the three way earlier in this thread, but what happened here could fit that, because (and how its different from unintentional murder), the nuance for 2nd degree manslaughter is "did you put the person in a situation that could have contributed to his death. Because cause of death is a mix up, and nothing is going to be agreed upon past it being a combination of fent, adrenaline, stress, a bad heart condition, and constricted airway- this will stick. If I'm having a spazz attack and a dudes knee is on my neck, even if I, myself, am a POS, I want to at least now that a cop is going to have the sense to adjust positions relative to that.I just don't believe that Chauvin is guilty of 2nd or 3rd degree murder or 2nd degree manslaughter.
The 2nd degree manslaughter is what plays on willful negligence & professional misconduct.If they were going after him for professional misconduct, or wilful neglect or etc etc, I could get behind it, but the charges they've brought rely on malovelence in the first two cases or a reasonable certainlty that his actions would result in death in the manslaughter charge.
I think he was to a certain point, but heres the thing. Hes got a massive crowd yelling at him, people chimping out and filming him, a dude who was belligerent before and then has suddenly gotten progressively more and more limp. I think he was trained enough, and then mentally froze and did not respond in an appropriate way as a result. Something the BLM crowd isn't going to like to hear is, know what is needed here? Better/more training, more money for the police.I don't think either of those mind states are true of Chauvin given he was doing as he'd been trained
I think his superiors have the knee-on-neck as an option, but what I am pretty confident in is that the parameters probably would not include "knee-on-neck, and even if the suspect goes limp, don't take your knee off his neck".within the parameters decided upon by his superiors.
Relates to the previous statement, but him freezing is on him. Its not murder, I don't think he's a vicious person, but he def needed to act better in this situation.That's not Chauvins fault though. He had every reason to expect that hte training he was given was sufficient and proper to allow him to fulfil his duty
Ah, the zimm-zamm trial. Such memories.This is one of the same lawyers that Zimmerman had
edit: Zimmerman had more than one lawyer
And Ben Crump is the ambulance chaser from the Zimzam trial who also represented Floyd’s family in the ghetto lottery.This is one of the same lawyers that Zimmerman had
edit: Zimmerman had more than one lawyer
Clip? Transcript? Summary?Good god I hope she stews all night on that little talking down to she just got, comes back swinging tomorrow am and gets slapped again in front of the jury this time.
Moron PR person was taking pics in the courtroom (very fucking illegal) and very poorly lied about why she was doing it. Judge dragged her onto the stand to essentially humiliate her to the worldI walked out for a minute what happened at the end there?
Is there anything more cringe, pathetic, and unconvincing than an SJW trying to sound tough?
Anyone putting together archives of highlights like this? Would love to watch but workposting.Hahaha she just got told off by the judge for being childish in court.
"Hostile witness" is a technical term; in this instance, she's already considered a hostile witness. Having someone declared a hostile witness only occurs when it turns out that someone you have called as a witness is being a dick; it lets you treat them as if you were in cross-examination, allows you to ask them leading questions, and a bunch of other stuff you're normally not allowed to do on direct.She just got the hostile witness treatment holy shit, contempt of court soon?