The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[Retard#7822]

You can see from the video they checked his pulse. Did anyone say that they found one or not?

After checking he said, "I can't find one"

 

[AnOminous]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't evidence admitted on some form of negotiation basis where they go "okay, we accept that this is admitted but only under these circumstances?" The defense probably wanted it admitted but the prosecution would only allow it if it was introduced by one of their witnesses.

Parties can agree to whatever base rules they want (that are allowed by law). In most jurisdictions such an agreement has to be made in writing to be enforceable. More often, though, a party will object to the introduction of the evidence, either at trial or by motion before trial, and if there's a limit to what the evidence can be used to prove, the court itself will issue a jury instruction telling the jury what it can do with the evidence.

And parties can often agree to the introduction of presumptively inadmissible evidence, e.g. lie detector results, where this is allowed by law.

 

[Iron Hamster]

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The only thing that would have been avoided was his employment.

 

[Bongocat]

Imagine thinking the verdict has anything to do with the trial.

 

[Retard#7822]

I'm confused as well.

You have reasonable officers, offering to roll the windows down, making statements like, "The way you're moving has me worried", to explain why they're directing him, checking for sharp objects, asking why he's having trouble walking, etc; just your basic SOPs.

St. George is obviously combative and out of it, at one point very violently kicking the officers.

I understand liberals don't self-identify as reasonable, for the large swathe of normies in the middle, how can someone possibly watch this and think the officers' behavior was out of line?

And why is the prosecution making the case for the defense?

Yeah man, worst thing that happened is when one of them was saying fuck to Floyd.

 

[Turbulence]

After checking he said, "I can't find one"

That's right before they called the code 3 ambulance right?

 

[MirrorNoir]

Imagine skynet happening because an AI goes rogue after its transgender programmer gets upset it noticed 13% of the population does 50% of the crime and heavily policed black neighborhoods.

Worse; AM from IHNMBMS by Harlan Ellison being the result of mentally ill trannies creating an AI in their own obscenely mentally ill image complete with a Movie Bob sadist factor towards anything remotely normie related.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The prosecution is really leaning hard into the emotional appeals and is ignoring factual stuff. That could blow up in their face.

 

[Retard#7822]

Yup, after checking they upped the ambulance response to code 3.

 

[BibiLivesMatter]

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honestly feel bad for these two guys , for they didn’t know How their actions would cause a butterfly effect of global rage and will sit with their mind filled with regret and doubt rest of their lives. also the older man crying probably kicked in some trauma with his own mother hearing George screaming it. Only few people in this trial I truly feel bad for.

 

[RadicalCentrist]

Every single time I hear about Floyd being "executed" while clearly resisting arrest I think of Daniel Shaver a white,unarmed man gunned down in his 20s by an actual pyscho cop. Not a fucking word from the media since while we have video of him begging for his life as this cop pins down an UNARMED man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

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Yeah that's one of the worst ones. You don't really hear about it since it doesn't benefit any political side.

 

[Dysnomia]

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My local news station site has it written as "If I would have just not tooken the bill". Wonder which is correct?

I do understand the guilt factor here. I would feel bad too. It's probably a hard thing to get over regardless of circumstances. But Floyd broke the law counterfeiting. And for all this guy knows, refusing the fake $20 could have resulted in a violent altercation or vandalism. The employee did the right thing.

 

[AnOminous]

I understand liberals don't self-identify as reasonable, for the large swathe of normies in the middle, how can someone possibly watch this and think the officers' behavior was out of line?

I don't think the initial use of force was wrong, or at least not criminal, but continuing to do it after resistance had entirely stopped was at the very least a bad call. However, if I'd seen someone acting like Floyd was in that shop cam video, I'd assume he was dusting and people on PCP can be incredibly violent and have no pain. There was definitely cause to use restraint of some sort.

In a non-rigged trial, this would usually make a conviction really difficult, because once you get a jury to buy that a cop had an actual justification to use force, and you're arguing that the specific choice of what to use turned what would otherwise be justified into an actual crime, you're arguing uphill. Once some kind of violence is on the table as the only option an officer had, the exact kind of violence is a judgment call. And in the heat of the moment it's entirely possible to make an honest error, and sometimes, this means someone dies.

 

[Meat Target]

The prosecution is really leaning hard into the emotional appeals and is ignoring factual stuff. That could blow up in their face.

1. If the law is on your side, pound the law.
2. If the facts are on your side, pound the facts
3. If neither are on your side, pound the desk

 

[Coffee Shits]

The bodycam footage is only convincing me that all force used was justified. He was going to book it, first chance he had.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

Worse; AM from IHNMBMS by Harlan Ellison being the result of mentally ill trannies creating an AI in their own obscenely mentally ill image complete with a Movie Bob sadist factor towards anything remotely normie related.

 

[Space Retard]

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The clerk is one of the few people I actually feel really bad for, imagine seeing cities getting burnt down and people killed because you accepted a fake bill by mistake while working your min wage job. Great example of the domino effect lol. It honestly stresses me out just imagining what he must feel like.

 

[X Pac Heat]

This isn't dragged out yet. We're only on day 3 of what's expected to last at least 3 weeks. It's unwise to jump to endgame conclusions at this point. Also don't forget that emotions can make or break a conviction. The jurors are human too. That's the point of having a jury instead of just a judge or a machine.

makes me wonder why they didn't go for a bench trial

 

[ElAbominacion]

Every single time I hear about Floyd being "executed" while clearly resisting arrest I think of Daniel Shaver a white,unarmed man gunned down in his 20s by an actual pyscho cop. Not a fucking word from the media since while we have video of him begging for his life as this cop pins down an UNARMED man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

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Justice for Daniel Shaver.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Once some kind of violence is on the table as the only option an officer had, the exact kind of violence is a judgment call.

Depends on whether or not you think a neck restraint is "violent." Wrangling tards ain't pretty.

17 past the hour and what do you know? CNN and MSNBC are still showing Biden.