TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

So Kyle Kallgren's fiancee (?) Jordain Searles, a Strong Disabled Queer Woman of Color, accused Dany "Lina Morgan" Roth of sexually harassing her and trying to kiss her in December of 2019. Dany is Todd in the Shadows's bestie and his co-host on the podcast Song vs Song. Todd didn't cancel Dany, Kallgren lost that entire TGWTG friend group over it, and Dany just trooned out to try to escape himself this past month. Lindsay guested on the podcast (defending Nookie by Limp Bizkit) not long ago and of course both Todd and Dany simped to an appalling degree. The fallout from this might spread to the entire Lindsaysphere.

Edit: Added a link about the drama from Lindsay's subreddit

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I know I'm incredibly late to this post (in terms of how fast these pages are flying by) but I'm glad someone else on here has acknowledged Dany trooning out. Still hoping that someone is gonna make a thread about him.
 
It was actually something they did before the abortion happened, Lindsay stopped doing it after she got rid of the fetus because apparently it was no longer funny to her.

Also, something I'd completely forgotten: She interviews her parents to get their reaction to her abortion. Jesus fuck, can you imagine how that conversation went? "Hey Mom and Dad, know how you always wanted grandkids? Well guess what, I got an abortion! Can you explain how that makes you feel to the camera?"

Thanks for letting me know that detail. I wasn't aware that they were doing the jokes before she had the abortion.
 
Someone bought it up but it's true that Ellis basically did pave the way for all these current female beardtubers.
Ironically, it feels like the end of an era because now you can't be slightly liberal you have to be a full-blown Red and have Progressive tattooed over your entire being and any sign of human imperfection means you're not perfect and therefore problematic garbage
 
I know I'm incredibly late to this post (in terms of how fast these pages are flying by) but I'm glad someone else on here has acknowledged Dany trooning out. Still hoping that someone is gonna make a thread about him.
I was gonna make one about Todd but got bored with him after his Cali move; that would have had Dany more prevalently as a sidecow though he is an absolute toady of Lindsay's. Dany isn't that interesting, unless you know more dirt than his verbal diarrhea about review fixing, general hanger-on-iness and stupid relationship with his wife who's now a nb they/them while he's an ace tranny. They seem like the height of people who mistake identity labels for personalities. The funniest thing I've seen him do is post about how his Crohn's prevented him from going on estrogen and so he wants to help all the trannies with tum issues who can't take titty skittles because of it. He's also super annoying on the podcast.
 
I was gonna make one about Todd but got bored with him after his Cali move; that would have had Dany more prevalently as a sidecow though he is an absolute toady of Lindsay's. Dany isn't that interesting, unless you know more dirt than his verbal diarrhea about review fixing, general hanger-on-iness and stupid relationship with his wife who's now a nb they/them while he's an ace tranny. They seem like the height of people who mistake identity labels for personalities. The funniest thing I've seen him do is post about how his Crohn's prevented him from going on estrogen and so he wants to help all the trannies with tum issues who can't take titty skittles because of it. He's also super annoying on the podcast.
AGREED. The early episodes was just him going on long tangents about his time in college and how he was "sO qWeEr" and idolized Gwen Stefani. Like, [Peter Griffin voice] "Who. The hell. Cares?".
As for Todd, whom I've been watching his videos since early 2013, I just feel really bad for hom because he was brought up in a Republican family but then (highly likely) got exposed to liberal shit via TGWTG. His chucklg in the latest Song Vs. Song about Dany's troonout is pobably his soul crying out like out, "Please help me get out of this mess." IMO he always just felt like a moderate (politic wise) dude who just got roped into the left and is too afraid to stray away from it all with anybody lest he get cancelled.
 
AGREED. The early episodes was just him going on long tangents about his time in college and how he was "sO qWeEr" and idolized Gwen Stefani. Like, [Peter Griffin voice] "Who. The hell. Cares?".
As for Todd, whom I've been watching his videos since early 2013, I just feel really bad for hom because he was brought up in a Republican family but then (highly likely) got exposed to liberal shit via TGWTG. His chucklg in the latest Song Vs. Song about Dany's troonout is pobably his soul crying out like out, "Please help me get out of this mess." IMO he always just felt like a moderate (politic wise) dude who just got roped into the left and is too afraid to stray away from it all with anybody lest he get cancelled.
I tapped out of the podcasts after the painful one with Lindsay, skipped those with Sarah Z and Dan Olson. Listened to the Bjork vs Tori one which was baaaaaaad and far too long and that was it. Had listened to all the ones up to that point but there is a limit and hearing "time is a flat circle" more than five times in an hour by a Lindsay clone was mine. There was no insight, and none of them had any idea what the hell they were talking about. Honestly, Dany's spergout about why wasn't Anna or Elsa gay in the Frozen II episode was probably the cringiest moment of all.

I too have been watching Todd for about as long and enjoy(ed? they've been falling a bit flat lately) his videos, especially OHW and Trainwreckords. He's just such a Twitter white (okay, Asian mixed) knight for breadtuber girls, troons and OnlyFans thots. IMO some of his best videos were in the year before he moved and was further away from Lindsay's influence, because when he's following her around he's 1) an asshole and 2) parroting her humor. He did manage to find a group in which being a boring, relatively normal straight guy is considered weird (compared to all the bi/trans/poly/nb/label du jour theater types that comprise the Chez Apocalypse/breadtube clique) so, way to use what he had. His repeated defenses of pedos, child porn purveyors and sex pests as well as the stupidity during Gamergate make his moral fortitude questionable though. His sister in law is a furry with a furaffinity page and a side hustle doing commissioned furry art, and she's married to his brother that he's close to so something went wrong in the raising of those kids. I'm also fairly sure Todd follows this thread (hi Kenny!).

Point is, Dany's gay and just needs to deal and Todd could do better but won't as long as he's happy being Lindsay's backup cuck.
 
If I'm understanding this right, Lindsay is being cancelled for complaining about media that mashes different cultures together under a vague umbrella of "Asian" and ignores its cultural context. I thought this was a pretty woke opinion, and is a criticism I've seen other people level against Raya and Avatar without any incident. Or is Lindsay just not allowed to comment on "Asian issues" because she's white?
As an Asian American myself, it's funny because Avatar is essentially a woke white take on anime that a lot of their US fans think anime should be. Lindsay is right, but she's dealing with a clearly culturally blind bunch of dipshits on her level who think Asians are white, and that anime should be clearly creatively directed by a market outside of Japan than actually doing their own shit, like starting up their own market/creative culture. Because you know, whining and mocking about it as a bunch of "tasteful anime nerds" is clearly a sign of cultural hegemony integration.

Also, never forget that Lindsay openly says anime is the worst because it doesn't follow "traditional movie storytelling" or whatever her spoiled suburbanite ass likes to preach on about:


@REGENDarySumanai Here's something to help add onto the OP.

I'm here for the fire. Who wants steaks?
 
Well I like to see some beardtuber deny that cancel culture doesn't exist now.
It's so funny that this very group calls for taking responsibility for your actions but then proceeded to Kamikaze anybody who tries to do that.
I really do think that some of these people just had it in for Ellis but were too afraid to go after the the queen of Leftys until they saw their opportunity to pounce on her ass
 
very interesting info on todd, where did you get the info from? (like his brother and sister in law?)

I really enjoy his reviews and still watch them. but his twitter is so boring, I hardly know anything about him outside his youtube channel. (apart from a few tidbits about his embarrassing gamergate sperg).

I always wanted to see a thread about him, but people don't seem to be too interested in him to bother. (especially after lindsay split from him) too bad.
 
It's amusing to me that only Contrapoints out of the Breadtube circle has even attempted to defend Lindsay, whilst the rest of her so-called friend group like hbomberguy are happy to not mention it, lest they risk their own PR.

Though granted if the roles were reversed, Lindsay would definitely leave Brewis for the jackals.
 
Well I like to see some beardtuber deny that cancel culture doesn't exist now.
It's so funny that this very group calls for taking responsibility for your actions but then proceeded to Kamikaze anybody who tries to do that.
I really do think that some of these people just had it in for Ellis but were too afraid to go after the the queen of Leftys until they saw their opportunity to pounce on her ass
Ellis has had a target on her back for years. She was one of Woke Kweens of the Internet so she had an army of simps, “friends” who actually just use each other, and a six figure income for doing very little work. This has created a lot of jealousy and envy bubbling under the surface so they seized the first opportunity when it presented itself. What Ellis said is no dumber than any of her other awful takes, it’s just they found a chink in the armor and dove right in. Given how quickly she tucked tail and ran, they could have and should have done this a lot sooner.

very interesting info on todd, where did you get the info from? (like his brother and sister in law?)

I really enjoy his reviews and still watch them. but his twitter is so boring, I hardly know anything about him outside his youtube channel. (apart from a few tidbits about his embarrassing gamergate sperg).

I always wanted to see a thread about him, but people don't seem to be too interested in him to bother. (especially after lindsay split from him) too bad.
TBH, Cuck in the Shadows is too boring. A milquetoast dork who occasionally makes interesting content. Ellis’ efforts (to use the term loosely) is like a tenth grader who waited until the night before to write a book report - her shit has never been insightful or interesting but in the world of astronomically low standards and astronomically thirsty simps, she got far more attention than she ever deserved. Cuck in the Shadows by comparison lives up to his name.
 
As an Asian American myself, it's funny because Avatar is essentially a woke white take on anime that a lot of their US fans think anime should be. Lindsay is right, but she's dealing with a clearly culturally blind bunch of dipshits on her level who think Asians are white, and that anime should be clearly creatively directed by a market outside of Japan than actually doing their own shit, like starting up their own market/creative culture. Because you know, whining and mocking about it as a bunch of "tasteful anime nerds" is clearly a sign of cultural hegemony integration.

Also, never forget that Lindsay openly says anime is the worst because it doesn't follow "traditional movie storytelling" or whatever her spoiled suburbanite ass likes to preach on about:


@REGENDarySumanai Here's something to help add onto the OP.

I'm here for the fire. Who wants steaks?
Showing her old Nostalgia Chick video on Lion King, made me wonder does anyone have an archive of her Nostalgia Chick videos? She privated those last year and it's pretty obvious that they're not coming back as it will cause her problems with being cancelled.
 
Ellis has had a target on her back for years. She was one of Woke Kweens of the Internet so she had an army of simps, “friends” who actually just use each other, and a six figure income for doing very little work. This has created a lot of jealousy and envy bubbling under the surface so they seized the first opportunity when it presented itself. What Ellis said is no dumber than any of her other awful takes, it’s just they found a chink in the armor and dove right in. Given how quickly she tucked tail and ran, they could have and should have done this a lot sooner.


TBH, Cuck in the Shadows is too boring. A milquetoast dork who occasionally makes interesting content. Ellis’ efforts (to use the term loosely) is like a tenth grader who waited until the night before to write a book report - her shit has never been insightful or interesting but in the world of astronomically low standards and astronomically thirsty simps, she got far more attention than she ever deserved. Cuck in the Shadows by comparison lives up to his name.
Not surprised tbh.
Almost all of the channel awesome guys and their humor wouldn't fly nowadays and what was once considered golden is now problematic to the delusional reds.
 
very interesting info on todd, where did you get the info from? (like his brother and sister in law?)

I really enjoy his reviews and still watch them. but his twitter is so boring, I hardly know anything about him outside his youtube channel. (apart from a few tidbits about his embarrassing gamergate sperg).

I always wanted to see a thread about him, but people don't seem to be too interested in him to bother. (especially after lindsay split from him) too bad.
Furry SIL has multiple Twitter accounts, including one under her married name and another under her business/furry name so like any good KF autist, I followed the breadcrumbs. Didn't see any reason to post the full dox here as it's too many degrees away from Lindsay to be relevant. Most of the rest comes from watching his content and following him on Twitter, where he's smart enough to mostly post pictures of the admittedly cute Amydog but occasionally slips into spergery or worse. He's an interesting case study of a middling youtuber who has managed to succeed on his own terms enough to get sponsorship while staying under the radar (so far).
 
It's amusing to me that only Contrapoints out of the Breadtube circle has even attempted to defend Lindsay, whilst the rest of her so-called friend group like hbomberguy are happy to not mention it, lest they risk their own PR.

Though granted if the roles were reversed, Lindsay would definitely leave Brewis for the jackals.

Breadtube now is not unlike the Internet Bloodsports community a few years ago. It's a powder-keg of volatile and self-important personalities who pretended to be friends to grow their channels. And like IBS, it is destined to explode in a flurry of backbiting and recriminations that will destroy multiple youtubers. Lindsay will probably survive this given the support she receives from servile media simps, but it would be funny if this flap proves to be the inciting incident that collapses Breadtube. Unlikely, but one can hope.
 
I tapped out of the podcasts after the painful one with Lindsay, skipped those with Sarah Z and Dan Olson. Listened to the Bjork vs Tori one which was baaaaaaad and far too long and that was it. Had listened to all the ones up to that point but there is a limit and hearing "time is a flat circle" more than five times in an hour by a Lindsay clone was mine. There was no insight, and none of them had any idea what the hell they were talking about. Honestly, Dany's spergout about why wasn't Anna or Elsa gay in the Frozen II episode was probably the cringiest moment of all.

I too have been watching Todd for about as long and enjoy(ed? they've been falling a bit flat lately) his videos, especially OHW and Trainwreckords. He's just such a Twitter white (okay, Asian mixed) knight for breadtuber girls, troons and OnlyFans thots. IMO some of his best videos were in the year before he moved and was further away from Lindsay's influence, because when he's following her around he's 1) an asshole and 2) parroting her humor. He did manage to find a group in which being a boring, relatively normal straight guy is considered weird (compared to all the bi/trans/poly/nb/label du jour theater types that comprise the Chez Apocalypse/breadtube clique) so, way to use what he had. His repeated defenses of pedos, child porn purveyors and sex pests as well as the stupidity during Gamergate make his moral fortitude questionable though. His sister in law is a furry with a furaffinity page and a side hustle doing commissioned furry art, and she's married to his brother that he's close to so something went wrong in the raising of those kids. I'm also fairly sure Todd follows this thread (hi Kenny!).

Point is, Dany's gay and just needs to deal and Todd could do better but won't as long as he's happy being Lindsay's backup cuck.
I admittedly don't watch the entirety of the Song Vs. Song podcasts, as they've been some that I'm not familiar with lately (because it was wahmen's history month??) . Glad that you said they're boring though.
 
As an Asian American myself, it's funny because Avatar is essentially a woke white take on anime that a lot of their US fans think anime should be. Lindsay is right, but she's dealing with a clearly culturally blind bunch of dipshits on her level who think Asians are white, and that anime should be clearly creatively directed by a market outside of Japan than actually doing their own shit, like starting up their own market/creative culture. Because you know, whining and mocking about it as a bunch of "tasteful anime nerds" is clearly a sign of cultural hegemony integration.
Funny you mention that because I've heard A:TLA be described as "the pinnacle of Western animation" (a platitude also given to Batman: The Animated Series), and "one of the few anime inspired things from the mid 2000s that isn't absolute dogshit". As for "copying", IIRC Lindsay mentioned the generic aspects of fantasy it does, such as "chosen one", "world spanning epic", "controlling the elements", and "chosen one being able to control all the elements".
 
Funny you mention that because I've heard A:TLA be described as "the pinnacle of Western animation" (a platitude also given to Batman: The Animated Series), and "one of the few anime inspired things from the mid 2000s that isn't absolute dogshit". As for "copying", IIRC Lindsay mentioned the generic aspects of fantasy it does, such as "chosen one", "world spanning epic", "controlling the elements", and "chosen one being able to control all the elements".
I hate the animation for Avatar. It's very stiff. Something they mostly corrected in the sequel show, Korra, but that has it's own share of problems beyond the animation.
 
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