Crime Soldier says she was sexually assaulted by 22 troops at Oklahoma base - “Brass is already calling this Fort Hood 2.0,” a military official said


The Army is investigating a possible series of sexual assaults of a female soldier at the Army training base in Fort Sill, Oklahoma, a commander at the base told press yesterday. The investigation, according to a military official with direct knowledge, is scrutinizing allegations of multiple assaults against the soldier by 22 service members. Video of one incident under investigation involving several drill sergeants was circulating at the base and was obtained by Army investigators, the official said.
The soldier, who was a trainee at the time of the alleged assaults, formally reported them on March 27. The alleged incidents at times involved groups of assailants, the military official said, and the woman’s report identified seven of the 22 members she said assaulted her. He spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive personnel matters.

“I heard the term ‘sex ring’ thrown around, which is not one you love to hear,” the official said, reflecting concerns that the assaults may have been coordinated.
The unit implicated in the assault is the 1-78 Field Artillery Battalion. The Defense Department is removing multiple unit drill sergeants as a result of the investigation, which is being conducted by the Army Criminal Investigation Command. Stars and Stripes reported that “multiple” personnel at Fort Sill were suspended this week following a sexual assault report filed by a soldier in training, but did not specify the exact number. According to Maj. Gen. Ken Kamper, at Fort Sill, the service members under scrutiny were part of a cadre that trains incoming troops.

The Defense Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Reports of sexual assault in the military have gone up dramatically in recent years, rising 38 percent from 2016 to 2018 and by 10 percent between 2018 and 2019. More than 20,000 service members reported being sexually assaulted in 2018, according to Defense Department figures.
Last year, 20-year-old Army Specialist Vanessa Guillén was murdered at Fort Hood, Texas, by another service member after Guillén told family and friends that she had been sexually harassed by superiors. An Army investigation, released in December, found a culture “permissive of sexual harassment and sexual assault” at the base — and that female troops were “vulnerable and preyed upon, but fearful to report and be ostracized and re-victimized.” In December, The Intercept reported that Fort Hood soldiers were unsurprised by the report and skeptical that there would be any significant changes. These soldiers described a “toxic leadership” culture at Fort Hood.

“It’s been bad historically but brass is already calling this Fort Hood 2.0,” the official said on Thursday evening. “It was a dark day at work today.”
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Great, more weirdo sex cults that force people to stay quiet.
 
Now don't get me wrong it's great we have a military and I'm glad they're around to protect our freedoms, but I've never met a soldier that wasn't fucked up, crazy, or retarded in some way. We had to write to veterans back in middle school and mine wrote back a 3 page letter about how fucking great it was to slaughter gooks in vietnam, complete with low-res images of decapitated viet cong. Military culture is FUCKED.
 
Reports of sexual assault in the military have gone up dramatically in recent years, rising 38 percent from 2016 to 2018 and by 10 percent between 2018 and 2019. More than 20,000 service members reported being sexually assaulted in 2018, according to Defense Department figures.

You know what else has gone up? Waivers, especially criminal conduct waivers. Combine that with the relaxing of standards and the average vapid ho who enjoys a lot of male attention and you're gonna have a huge fucking mess.

Until recently, when they're gonna let females train in San Diego, I though the Marines had it right. Men train men, and women train women. No fucking mingling or shit like that.
 
Time to flip a coin:

Trainee thot who enjoyed getting trains run on her and the attention who got caught and screamed rape

OR

Mass coordinated sexual predator multiple times up to 7 at a time because she was so hot they couldn't wait their turns.

Heads or tails?
They have video of at least one of the incidents, automatically assuming anybody claiming rape is some whore, particularly when they serve your country and understand how serious these allegations are is pretty shitty.
Video of one incident under investigation involving several drill sergeants was circulating at the base and was obtained by Army investigators, the official said.
 
Trainee thot who enjoyed getting trains run on her and the attention who got caught and screamed rape
ive heard enough reports of female "soldiers" being little more than shameless whores in uniform, so i wouldn't be surprised if that's what we're looking at here

cant tell for sure without seeing the video though. maybe it really is a case of her kicking and screaming while getting gang raped by a bunch of depraved psychos. certainly not impossible.

They have video of at least one of the incidents, automatically assuming anybody claiming rape is some whore, particularly when they serve your country and understand how serious these allegations are is pretty shitty.
"they have video" doesn't mean shit unless you actually see what's on said video. certainly wouldn't be the first time a woman decided to slut around, then retroactively labeled it rape in an attempt to achieve personal gain from the followup drama.
 
They have video of at least one of the incidents, automatically assuming anybody claiming rape is some whore, particularly when they serve your country and understand how serious these allegations are is pretty shitty.
I said: Flip a coin.

What part do you not get?

What's the video of, rape, or her on her knees sucking a bunch of dicks in a row with a big grin on her face or having a train run on her while she's grinning?

Yer barkin up the wrong tree, APC.
 
They have video of at least one of the incidents, automatically assuming anybody claiming rape is some whore, particularly when they serve your country and understand how serious these allegations are is pretty shitty.

It may seem fucked up from an outside perspective, but there have been plenty of times there had been a girl who got attention or willingly slept around and then claimed rape, that I personally know of. I even got called in as a witness because I was at the same party and got to testify about what I saw going on between the two; then a couple weeks later a friend convinces the girl it wasn't consensual, it was rape. Not to mention all the girls who ho themselves out for meritorious boards or favored TDY assignments and shit like that. Or the girls who sell their services in the desert, and get caught trying to leave the country with $25K on her person.

Yeah, not every girl in uniform is a ho... But you see more hos, than closeted lesbians or actual nice girls.
 
It may seem fucked up from an outside perspective, but there have been plenty of times there had been a girl who got attention or willingly slept around and then claimed rape, that I personally know of. I even got called in as a witness because I was at the same party and got to testify about what I saw going on between the two; then a couple weeks later a friend convinces the girl it wasn't consensual, it was rape. Not to mention all the girls who ho themselves out for meritorious boards or favored TDY assignments and shit like that. Or the girls who sell their services in the desert, and get caught trying to leave the country with $25K on her person.

Yeah, not every girl in uniform is a ho... But you see more hos, than closeted lesbians or actual nice girls.
can you not be immature for a second and understand accusing somebody in the military of this isn't twitter? This is embarrassing, you sound underage in your level of analysis. I know guys falsely accused too, doesn't change the seriousness of these allegations.
I said: Flip a coin.

What part do you not get?

What's the video of, rape, or her on her knees sucking a bunch of dicks in a row with a big grin on her face or having a train run on her while she's grinning?

Yer barkin up the wrong tree, APC.
Ah yea she totally wanted to be raped by 22 guys, fuckoff with the stupid shit. She clearly didn't want that and if you want to make the argument that she consented to 22 men, thats on you to look like a piece of shit. I'll keep in mind to only assume the worst out of you if this is how you apply this standard to your fellow soldiers.
How do you disrespect people in the military so much when you were in it? You could at least give benefit of the doubt because the story sounds awful.
 
Ah yea she totally wanted to be raped by 22 guys, fuckoff with the stupid shit. She clearly didn't want that and if you want to make the argument that she consented to 22 men, thats on you to look like a piece of shit. I'll keep in mind to only assume the worst out of you if this is how you apply this standard to your fellow soldiers.
How do you disrespect people in the military so much when you were in it? You could at least give benefit of the doubt because the story sounds awful.
Well, let me explain what happens to you.

A lot of young women join the military and suddenly discover that they are in charge of their own destiny. They can do what they want. There is a SMALL PERCENTAGE that go absolutely ape-shit crazy about dick. We're talking two or three guys a night, easy. They relish in the fact they can have guilt free sex, none of these people know any baggage from High School, or anything like that. The MAJORITY of the SMALL PERCENTAGE steady out after about a month of fucking everything that moves and go back to normal. Others enjoy the attention and keep up with it looong after they reach their first duty station.

Now, if it gets public and embarassing, some, a VERY MINOR AMOUNT, claim rape to get out from under the fact their embarassed by the fact that they went full of Turbo-Skank.

The soldier, who was a trainee at the time of the alleged assaults, formally reported them on March 27. The alleged incidents at times involved groups of assailants, the military official said, and the woman’s report identified seven of the 22 members she said assaulted her. He spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive personnel matters.
Incedents. Repeated ones. Sometimes with groups.

Could she have been engaging in group sex? Absolutely. It's not that uncommon in that SMALL PERCENTAGE to go ahead and have group sex too, because fuck it, why not and it's fun!

BUT...

If she was a trainee and Cadre, her actual training CADRE, got involved with her, I hold them accountable. Under no circumstances should a member of Cadre engage in sexual intercourse or any other sexual or affectionate activity with a trainee. If they did, I expect them to be punished.

Her fellow trainees, if she was consenting, should get the normal "You aren't supposed to have sex during training" if that was laid down and non-judicial punishment.

And that's the other thing that you are overlooking. If she was a trainee and slinging pussy, she's in trouble. That's against the rules. She's looking at non-judicial punishment or even seperation from service.

Add in that there is video, which was being passed around, now everyone knows what she was up to. The fastest way out from under that is sexual charges.

Otherwise, we've got the systemic problem that rears its head and needs to be torn out, root and branch, of another group of fucking cadre and permanent party assholes passing around Trainees. This is usually a group of high ranking lifers who feel that all women in the service are whores so they ensure that's what happens. IF that is what is happening, like what happened on Hood, Dix, Carson, and Bliss the last few years, I expect them to ruthlessly purge these assholes (They won't, they never do).

Since it's multiple incidents, involving 22 people total, only 7 of which she had idenitified, either she was being pimped out, got into one of those sex clubs, or was throwing pussy every weekend.

Flip a coin:

Young female trainee goes sexually apeshit

Abuse by her cadre and higher ranking

It can be either one. Hell, it can be both. She could have been slinging pussy to her fellow trainees and cadre had extorted pussy from her and then passed her around to their buddies.

Personally, I don't know. I'm automatically inclined to believe it was the trainers and some high ranking fuckers in the various HR services that passed her teenage ass like a party favor because that's the shit they do.
 
Well, let me explain what happens to you.

A lot of young women join the military and suddenly discover that they are in charge of their own destiny. They can do what they want. There is a SMALL PERCENTAGE that go absolutely ape-shit crazy about dick. We're talking two or three guys a night, easy. They relish in the fact they can have guilt free sex, none of these people know any baggage from High School, or anything like that. The MAJORITY of the SMALL PERCENTAGE steady out after about a month of fucking everything that moves and go back to normal. Others enjoy the attention and keep up with it looong after they reach their first duty station.

Now, if it gets public and embarassing, some, a VERY MINOR AMOUNT, claim rape to get out from under the fact their embarassed by the fact that they went full of Turbo-Skank.


Incedents. Repeated ones. Sometimes with groups.

Could she have been engaging in group sex? Absolutely. It's not that uncommon in that SMALL PERCENTAGE to go ahead and have group sex too, because fuck it, why not and it's fun!

BUT...

If she was a trainee and Cadre, her actual training CADRE, got involved with her, I hold them accountable. Under no circumstances should a member of Cadre engage in sexual intercourse or any other sexual or affectionate activity with a trainee. If they did, I expect them to be punished.

Her fellow trainees, if she was consenting, should get the normal "You aren't supposed to have sex during training" if that was laid down and non-judicial punishment.

And that's the other thing that you are overlooking. If she was a trainee and slinging pussy, she's in trouble. That's against the rules. She's looking at non-judicial punishment or even seperation from service.

Add in that there is video, which was being passed around, now everyone knows what she was up to. The fastest way out from under that is sexual charges.

Otherwise, we've got the systemic problem that rears its head and needs to be torn out, root and branch, of another group of fucking cadre and permanent party assholes passing around Trainees. This is usually a group of high ranking lifers who feel that all women in the service are whores so they ensure that's what happens. IF that is what is happening, like what happened on Hood, Dix, Carson, and Bliss the last few years, I expect them to ruthlessly purge these assholes (They won't, they never do).

Since it's multiple incidents, involving 22 people total, only 7 of which she had idenitified, either she was being pimped out, got into one of those sex clubs, or was throwing pussy every weekend.

Flip a coin:

Young female trainee goes sexually apeshit

Abuse by her cadre and higher ranking

It can be either one.

Personally, I don't know. I'm automatically inclined to believe it was the trainers and some high ranking fuckers in the various HR services that passed her teenage ass like a party favor because that's the shit they do.
To get into it there's a pimping(and sex cult) problem with these places and that's my issue here is I feel like you're really underestimating how toxic of an environment some of these bases are. Just look at Fort Hood and how they were killing people there for daring to speak about sexual abuse. It seems very much like a big systematic problem.
I imagine she got swept up with stuff, perhaps had a BF on staff and it went wrong. I just really don't like typecasting her as a slut when we know so little of the story.
 
can you not be immature for a second and understand accusing somebody in the military of this isn't twitter? This is embarrassing, you sound underage in your level of analysis. I know guys falsely accused too, doesn't change the seriousness of these allegations.

Ah yea she totally wanted to be raped by 22 guys, fuckoff with the stupid shit. She clearly didn't want that and if you want to make the argument that she consented to 22 men, thats on you to look like a piece of shit. I'll keep in mind to only assume the worst out of you if this is how you apply this standard to your fellow soldiers.
How do you disrespect people in the military so much when you were in it? You could at least give benefit of the doubt because the story sounds awful.
Nigger, clearly you've never served. :lol:
 
To get into it there's a pimping(and sex cult) problem with these places and that's my issue here is I feel like you're really underestimating how toxic of an environment some of these bases are. Just look at Fort Hood and how they were killing people there for daring to speak about sexual abuse. It seems very much like a big systematic problem.
I imagine she got swept up with stuff, perhaps had a BF on staff and it went wrong. I just really don't like typecasting her as a slut when we know so little of the story.
That's why I said "pick one" and "flip a coin."

Fort Hood has ALWAYS been a shit hole. They're acting like it's totally new, but that post has been a complete and utter shit show for decades. That woman who was killed by an ex boyfriend is just the tip of the entire iceberg made of shit that involves that post.

Don't forget, about a decade ago, on Fort Hood (IIRC), there was someone running a prostitution ring of enlistedmen's wives who ran the RAPE CRISIS CENTER. Don't forget that 1st Cav scandal about '05 where rear detachment officers and senior NCO's were having enlistedmen's wives whored out to keep their husbands safe.

Fort Hood should have been burned to the ground after the Civil War.

But, with this one, the fact it's multiple incidents, 22 different assailants, she could identify seven, points at either sex club/trainee swapping OR went turbo-skank, got caught, screamed rape.

She clearly didn't want that and if you want to make the argument that she consented to 22 men, thats on you to look like a piece of shit. I'll keep in mind to only assume the worst out of you if this is how you apply this standard to your fellow soldiers.
How do you disrespect people in the military so much when you were in it? You could at least give benefit of the doubt because the story sounds awful.
Let me put it to you REALLY simply.

Do you know WHY I can wonder if she went turbo-skank? It's BECAUSE I served. For years in co-ed units. I've seen the shit that goes down, especially with Privates.

This female private screamed rape that she was gang-banged at a party, got CID involved, the whole nine yards. EVERYONE knew this chick had been slinging pussy like it had an expiration date, but still, she's screaming, it had to be investigated.

Then the video tape surfaced. A two hour long porno of her taking it up the ass and wanting more every fucking step of the way. Looking dead at the camera and talking about how much she loves getting ass fucked. Her complaining nobody wanted to fuck her in the ass toward the end. How she made sure the video camera got the best angle and yelled if anyone got in the way.

Even AFTER the tape was known to be public, she still whined to new people that she'd been raped because "I didn't know they were going to film me..."

She wasn't even drinking.

Over the years I saw a LOT of consensual sexual encounters suddenly become rape after the fact when the female soldier was caught out or another female soldier busted her chops over it.

After a while, you start to get jaded.

So...

Flip a coin

Turbo-Skank caught out

Sex Club Victim
 
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Well, let me explain what happens to you.

A lot of young women join the military and suddenly discover that they are in charge of their own destiny. They can do what they want. There is a SMALL PERCENTAGE that go absolutely ape-shit crazy about dick. We're talking two or three guys a night, easy. They relish in the fact they can have guilt free sex, none of these people know any baggage from High School, or anything like that. The MAJORITY of the SMALL PERCENTAGE steady out after about a month of fucking everything that moves and go back to normal. Others enjoy the attention and keep up with it looong after they reach their first duty station.

Now, if it gets public and embarassing, some, a VERY MINOR AMOUNT, claim rape to get out from under the fact their embarassed by the fact that they went full of Turbo-Skank.


Incedents. Repeated ones. Sometimes with groups.

Could she have been engaging in group sex? Absolutely. It's not that uncommon in that SMALL PERCENTAGE to go ahead and have group sex too, because fuck it, why not and it's fun!

BUT...

If she was a trainee and Cadre, her actual training CADRE, got involved with her, I hold them accountable. Under no circumstances should a member of Cadre engage in sexual intercourse or any other sexual or affectionate activity with a trainee. If they did, I expect them to be punished.

Her fellow trainees, if she was consenting, should get the normal "You aren't supposed to have sex during training" if that was laid down and non-judicial punishment.

And that's the other thing that you are overlooking. If she was a trainee and slinging pussy, she's in trouble. That's against the rules. She's looking at non-judicial punishment or even seperation from service.

Add in that there is video, which was being passed around, now everyone knows what she was up to. The fastest way out from under that is sexual charges.

Otherwise, we've got the systemic problem that rears its head and needs to be torn out, root and branch, of another group of fucking cadre and permanent party assholes passing around Trainees. This is usually a group of high ranking lifers who feel that all women in the service are whores so they ensure that's what happens. IF that is what is happening, like what happened on Hood, Dix, Carson, and Bliss the last few years, I expect them to ruthlessly purge these assholes (They won't, they never do).

Since it's multiple incidents, involving 22 people total, only 7 of which she had idenitified, either she was being pimped out, got into one of those sex clubs, or was throwing pussy every weekend.

Flip a coin:

Young female trainee goes sexually apeshit

Abuse by her cadre and higher ranking

It can be either one. Hell, it can be both. She could have been slinging pussy to her fellow trainees and cadre had extorted pussy from her and then passed her around to their buddies.

Personally, I don't know. I'm automatically inclined to believe it was the trainers and some high ranking fuckers in the various HR services that passed her teenage ass like a party favor because that's the shit they do.

I'm not going to jump to any conclusions. But, the cadre mixed in with 22 women points more to a sex ring.

My guess is she initially consented, video came out, and she cried rape.

Regardless, the cadre are scummy fucks and deserve to be hanged by their balls.
 
22 at the same time would be real Army Strong.

I don't know how the hell you get past the first without immediately rushing to a superior officer to report it, this sounds fishy.
Intimidation usually. Part of the reason sex crimes in any hierarchy become pervasive is the exploitation of those with lower rank. You get abused and it’s either explained as normal to you, or you’re threatened with reprisal if you do anything to speak up.
 
Intimidation usually. Part of the reason sex crimes in any hierarchy become pervasive is the exploitation of those with lower rank. You get abused and it’s either explained as normal to you, or you’re threatened with reprisal if you do anything to speak up.
What's worse, is the cry-wolf shit makes it harder when something does go down.

And the good-ol-boy system, which is especially rife at Hood since people love to homestead there, makes it even tougher.

They'll not only threaten the person who got abused, but whoever has their back and is trying to protect her from reprisals.

Once officers get involved in the mix, then it gets even worse.

Hell, there was a recent article about how it's gotten worse on Fort Hood and how NCO's are trying to protect their enlisted from predatory officers and Senior NCOs.
 
Intimidation usually. Part of the reason sex crimes in any hierarchy become pervasive is the exploitation of those with lower rank. You get abused and it’s either explained as normal to you, or you’re threatened with reprisal if you do anything to speak up.

In an isolated incident, I would agree. But, the amount of women involved makes it sound unlikely.

Especially, when the military has been pushing all sorts SHARP and sexual harraament protocol. It wouldn't have taken 22 trainees for someone to cry foul.

It sounds like concentual gang banging.
 
This shit happens in training areas, primarily AIT(Advanced Individual Training) which is done after basic and you can have more liberties such as going off of post for a night/weekend. People would rent hotel rooms and it'd be a huge party, some of them complete with some skank soldier in training who guys would literally line up to fuck. If you're a reasonably normal person I don't think its necessarily easy to imagine why someone might do that and assume the girl was raped. And she actually might have been! Its not mutually exclusive, but her habits make it very difficult to establish that it did in fact happen.
 
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