Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

no clue about strained and limited resources in other countries.
The US btfos everyone for outcomes
The average a&e Waiting time target for the NHS is 3 hours, I think most Americans would call the cops if they were asked to wait 3 hours for the ER

If you look at the raw numbers that get put out ‘free’ health care is just as good as American but everyone else lies about their numbers.
For instance the us measures infant mortality within ~18 months of birth the uk measures within 6
They'd be appalled to know that you can't choose your GP in many parts of the world
I think most NHS style services let you choose your go but good luck ever getting to see them
They also have no idea that people with means in places like Canada or the UK often choose to go private for care and end up paying out of pocket anyway, sometimes traveling to do so.
In the eu they have a system where the government covers most things but you can pay extra to get things that aren’t, say newer and more expensive drugs

in the uk it’s basically impossible to go private. The prices are already inflated because the bottom rung (bottom half of the ladder) is taken out and you can’t post on credit.

How insane is that, you can’t work and need surgery, do you can wait 3 years for the NHS or you can pay cash. It’s like the whole point of the statement is to keep disgusting poor people out of the rich people hospitals
 
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It's been discussed to death, but there is no standard fit for fat people. Even standard 1-3x plus sizes gets sketchy, but anything over that, forget about it.
How can you fit both LifebyJen's 4 foot long fat apron and J(uliana)'s 4 foot wide beachball gut? Amberlynn's lumpy laygs and Chantal's fridge on sticks? Etc.
 
The US btfos everyone for outcomes
The average a&e Waiting time target for the NHS is 3 hours, I think most Americans would call the cops if they were asked to wait 3 hours for the ER

If you look at the raw numbers that get put out ‘free’ health care is just as good as American but everyone else lies about their numbers.
For instance the us measures infant mortality within ~18 months of birth the uk measures within 6

I think most NHS style services let you choose your go but good luck ever getting to see them

In the eu they have a system where the government covers most things but you can pay extra to get things that aren’t, say newer and more expensive drugs

in the uk it’s basically impossible to go private. The prices are already inflated because the bottom rung (bottom half of the ladder) is taken out and you can’t post on credit.

How insane is that, you can’t work and need surgery, do you can wait 3 years for the NHS or you can pay cash. It’s like the whole point of the statement is to keep disgusting poor people out of the rich people hospitals
Plus in the USA - correct me if I'm wrong - but don't a lot of hospitals have charities where those most in genuine need get their bills written off?

The UK and it's slavish mental boner for the NHS is genuinely fucking sickening. It really is. The fetishization of Nurses, the way they are fawned over, the fact the whole thing is top heavy and bloated with excessive management with no clinical experience, the wait times, the hit and miss provision over the country, the fact that GP surgeries can, will and do blacklist you for making a sincere complaint about shitty treatment is appalling.


The system in the USA is not perfect, not by a long shot. But you at least don't get lumped into a mixed age ward, with five other people sharing one toilet, and incontinent old cunts shitting on the commode in the cubicle split by just a curtain, then allowed to sleep all night, and rage and scream all night.


The UK health system is a fucking joke, and it is allowed to get away with it because too many Brits are used to shit tier healthcare and conditioned to believe it is superior by sole virtue of it being free at point of access.

And worse, the fatties are still allowed to be the single biggest burden after oldiewonks because god forbid we tell them in blunt, plain terms, the shitey health outcomes which await them.
 
Plus in the USA - correct me if I'm wrong - but don't a lot of hospitals have charities where those most in genuine need get their bills written off?
Nah. It's actually pretty uncommon. It just gets a lot of press when it happens. Religious hospitals tend to do it more often due to the whole "religions are tax-exempt" thing.
 
The size ~madness~ has infected the knitting community as well.

I don't have any examples because the drama all happened about eighteen months or so ago but if I remember it right someone designed a really nice sweater that went up to a 3X and the death fats started screaming and carrying on on Instagram (mostly in stories from what I understand) about how awful it is that these designers aren't ~inclusive~ enough.

They went on to sperg over the cost of the yarn for the sweater as written in the pattern, which was something like $300 for a 3X, and how outrageous it was that poor fat people can't afford to partake in this hobby! Wah Wah. Get a better job.

(Never mind that substituting cheaper yarn is easy.)

Never mind that grading patterns is a bitch, as a number of designers pointed out on Twitter. Mostly for reasons already talked about here.

Knitters bitch if they have to pay more than $8 for a pattern (which is cheap for hobby patterns, an equivalent sewing pattern will start at $15), but suddenly they want all sweaters to come up to size 6X, be infinitely adjustable because not every deathfat carries their weight the same way, and provide a complete list of acceptable yarn substitutes - all of which would add an extra 20-40 hours of work for the designer - and still only cost them $8. And be only modeled on deathfats. Not smallfats.

Or better yet, be free!

And none of them see anything wrong with that attitude. No matter how many designers kindly - very kindly - explain to them that they are unreasonable. A lot of designers, most of whom do this as a side gig, quit designing garments because user expectations were becoming too much.

</hobby sperg>
 
Nah. It's actually pretty uncommon. It just gets a lot of press when it happens. Religious hospitals tend to do it more often due to the whole "religions are tax-exempt" thing.

Just an fyi, any nonprofit hospital is tax exempt, whether the associated institution is a church or not. (It isn't just, like, "slap a cross on it and call it a day because religious feels mean no taxes")
But yeah, this is the kind of stuff that gets a lot of press and it drives me crazy bc it actually is rare and gets spun as this great thing and not a sign of desperation. Kind of like those "heartwarming" stories that are like "man desperately crowdfunds cash for removal of tumor, how nice, good thing he was charismatic and internet savvy enough to not fucking die"
 
The size ~madness~ has infected the knitting community as well.

I don't have any examples because the drama all happened about eighteen months or so ago but if I remember it right someone designed a really nice sweater that went up to a 3X and the death fats started screaming and carrying on on Instagram (mostly in stories from what I understand) about how awful it is that these designers aren't ~inclusive~ enough.

They went on to sperg over the cost of the yarn for the sweater as written in the pattern, which was something like $300 for a 3X, and how outrageous it was that poor fat people can't afford to partake in this hobby! Wah Wah. Get a better job.

(Never mind that substituting cheaper yarn is easy.)

Never mind that grading patterns is a bitch, as a number of designers pointed out on Twitter. Mostly for reasons already talked about here.

Knitters bitch if they have to pay more than $8 for a pattern (which is cheap for hobby patterns, an equivalent sewing pattern will start at $15), but suddenly they want all sweaters to come up to size 6X, be infinitely adjustable because not every deathfat carries their weight the same way, and provide a complete list of acceptable yarn substitutes - all of which would add an extra 20-40 hours of work for the designer - and still only cost them $8. And be only modeled on deathfats. Not smallfats.

Or better yet, be free!

And none of them see anything wrong with that attitude. No matter how many designers kindly - very kindly - explain to them that they are unreasonable. A lot of designers, most of whom do this as a side gig, quit designing garments because user expectations were becoming too much.

</hobby sperg>
God it reminds me of blanket guy, who wanted an alpaca wool king size blanket in a pinwheel pattern hand knit but was only willing to pay $100 for it, because "he could get the same at Walmart for $100"
These people are so coddled they have no idea of the true cost of anything.
Losing 3 sizes costs nothing and you have everything to gain from it and all you have to do is eat less. But they want to have their cake and eat it too. The "magic solution" is a tapeworm or meth, but they don't even want to do that.
 
The size ~madness~ has infected the knitting community as well.

I don't have any examples because the drama all happened about eighteen months or so ago but if I remember it right someone designed a really nice sweater that went up to a 3X and the death fats started screaming and carrying on on Instagram (mostly in stories from what I understand) about how awful it is that these designers aren't ~inclusive~ enough.

They went on to sperg over the cost of the yarn for the sweater as written in the pattern, which was something like $300 for a 3X, and how outrageous it was that poor fat people can't afford to partake in this hobby! Wah Wah. Get a better job.

(Never mind that substituting cheaper yarn is easy.)

Never mind that grading patterns is a bitch, as a number of designers pointed out on Twitter. Mostly for reasons already talked about here.

Knitters bitch if they have to pay more than $8 for a pattern (which is cheap for hobby patterns, an equivalent sewing pattern will start at $15), but suddenly they want all sweaters to come up to size 6X, be infinitely adjustable because not every deathfat carries their weight the same way, and provide a complete list of acceptable yarn substitutes - all of which would add an extra 20-40 hours of work for the designer - and still only cost them $8. And be only modeled on deathfats. Not smallfats.

Or better yet, be free!

And none of them see anything wrong with that attitude. No matter how many designers kindly - very kindly - explain to them that they are unreasonable. A lot of designers, most of whom do this as a side gig, quit designing garments because user expectations were becoming too much.

</hobby sperg>
Aww man. I feel sorry for the knitting communities and hobbyists cause it seems like you guys always catch SJW fags coming for your throats. I honestly think these assholes figure that people who knit are 1. Probably old and/or 2. Probably soft so they take to the internet to bully them over dumb shit. Its depressing. I know troons and BLM/mad-at-whitey crowds have similarly kicked up a fuss in knitting communities. Its just cause they feel like they can, which is pathetic.

It shouldn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that a 6x knitted garment is going to take a ton of labor and materials. Your average person with a knitting side-hustle won't want to be bothered with your weird, giant body, nor should they ever have to be.
 
This has been discussed at length, but Ash's deformed size 40 body is not going to be the same as another size 40 body, e.g., Ash has a relatively small chest for her massive size while someone else who's that big might have comically huge tits; Ash has a weird lumpy ass while someone else might have no ass, etc. Are these insane demands just a shit test for brands, or is Ash retarded?
 
Aww man. I feel sorry for the knitting communities and hobbyists cause it seems like you guys always catch SJW fags coming for your throats. I honestly think these assholes figure that people who knit are 1. Probably old and/or 2. Probably soft so they take to the internet to bully them over dumb shit. Its depressing. I know troons and BLM/mad-at-whitey crowds have similarly kicked up a fuss in knitting communities. Its just cause they feel like they can, which is pathetic.

It shouldn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that a 6x knitted garment is going to take a ton of labor and materials. Your average person with a knitting side-hustle won't want to be bothered with your weird, giant body, nor should they ever have to be.
The SJW/wokescold fags are coming from inside the community.

One of our knitting goddesses recently posted a thread where she said sweaters that we knit should be amazing and work for us. Good advice!

Apparently some people told her "amazing" and "work for" were ~problematic~ words because a day or two later she had to post an eight tweet thread about how she didn't mean "perfect" or "flattering" or "slimming" and when I said "Hey, maybe not worry so much about being ~problematic~ because practically every word is problematic to someone" I was told ~words are violence~ and ~talk less, ally more~. LOL. Nope.

If I come across good stuff I will post it, but not here.
 
Plus in the USA - correct me if I'm wrong - but don't a lot of hospitals have charities where those most in genuine need get their bills written off?
No that doesn’t happen because medicine simply didn’t exist before socialism and big government programs
The UK and it's slavish mental boner for the NHS is genuinely fucking sickening. It really is. The fetishization of Nurses ... bloated with excessive management with no clinical experience, ... GP surgeries can, will and do blacklist you for making a sincere complaint about shitty treatment
To be fair to Britbongs nurses are fetishised everywhere, none of them actually do any nursing anymore, they’re orderlies with a special ID badge dispensing medicine whenever a doctor tells them
The system in the USA is not perfect, not by a long shot.
There most annoying thing is how people only thing there’s 2 options; the NHS it and America’s weird mix of private and government
Something like half of all money spent in America on healthcare comes from the government, in what world is that a private system
Iknow I know I’m a lolbertarian but all the complaints about American healthcare come from FDR
And worse, the fatties are still allowed to be the single biggest burden after oldiewonks because god forbid we tell them in blunt, plain terms, the shitey health outcomes which await them.
Them, smokers, alcoholics and drug addicts
anyone who creates a problem for themselves and should maybe have to pay for it

but no, if you think that you just hate poor people

notice that none of these sea cows are aware (or try to forget) that many of these governments not only tax but restrict the amount of sugar in food, if you can’t not drink 8 gallons of sody-pop a day maybe you should die
 
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