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[tigergrinder]

This has been a fascinating microcosm to watch. That food looks fucking disgusting though, pancakes burnt to shit. And don't get me started on the alpacas.

 

[break these cuffs]

Steel core is not steel tip, fyi. All that means is the case is steel, it's what typical Soviet/Russian surplus is made out of. Steel TIPPED however, is another story.

A lot of ranges ban it because it can ricochet and reselling steel is not as lucrative as reselling brass cases. It's also harder on backstops. Other than there, there is nothing about regular commie steel case surplus that is "armor piercing".

A lot of people do make the mistake you are talking about both the cases are steel and the jackets are copper/steel bimetal for Eastern new and surplus AK ammo. But, there is mild steel core. The M43 and the Chinese equivalent. I only really remember seeing M43 sold in cases and it's the real corrosive primer stuff. The Chinese version looks bronze plated and you usually found people selling by the stirpper clip claiming it was AP. There is of course true armor piercing in this case BZ - armor piercing incendiary, which is much rarer.

 

[s0mbra]

You know, I genuinely like learning about stuff but jesus I wish this thread would tone it down in the gun sperging

 

[White Devil]

A lot of people do make the mistake you are talking about both the cases are steel and the jackets are copper/steel bimetal for Eastern new and surplus AK ammo. But, there is mild steel core. The M43 and the Chinese equivalent. I only really remember seeing M43 sold in cases and it's the real corrosive primer stuff. The Chinese version looks bronze plated and you usually found people selling by the stirpper clip claiming it was AP. There is of course true armor piercing in this case BZ - armor piercing incendiary, which is much rarer.

I totally understand that but didn't want to go into it because the ammo they were probably using more than likely came from Ukraine, if it wasn't just cheap ass Tula that was bought before the covid panics. While getting Soviet era AP here isn't hard, it's not exactly "trivial" either and I don't expect half assed shit for brains "body armor' manufacturers to know where to begin to look. That kind of conversation will usually spiral into how 7n6 isn't true armor piercing ammo why it's ban was total bullshit, etc.

 

[break these cuffs]

I totally understand that but didn't want to go into it because the ammo they were probably using more than likely came from Ukraine, if it wasn't just cheap ass Tula that was bought before the covid panics. While getting Soviet era AP here isn't hard, it's not exactly "trivial" either and I don't expect half assed shit for brains "body armor' manufacturers to know where to begin to look. That kind of conversation will usually spiral into how 7n6 isn't true armor piercing ammo why it's ban was total bullshit, etc.

I mean if we're going to get autistic, lets bust out the thousand piece puzzle.

 

[SIGSEGV]

Steel core is not steel tip, fyi. All that means is the case is steel, it's what typical Soviet/Russian surplus is made out of. Steel TIPPED however, is another story.

A lot of ranges ban it because it can ricochet and reselling steel is not as lucrative as reselling brass cases. It's also harder on backstops. Other than that, there is nothing about regular commie steel case surplus that is "armor piercing".

I have about a quarter of a spam can of 7.62x54R steel core surplus. I can assure you that the case is not steel, just the core of the bullet.

 

[White Devil]

I have about a quarter of a spam can of 7.62x54R steel core surplus. I can assure you that the case is not steel, just the core of the bullet.

Run a magnet over it and find out.

The reason why the Soviets used steel case in everything is because steel is the natural resource they have at hand, Russia has very few brass deposits. Even if that 54R was made by S&B, it's still going to be steel case, steel core corrosive milsurp ammo. Some WERE brass cased but not a lot.

 

[Ghjkl63]

Run a magnet over it and find out.

The reason why the Soviets used steel case in everything is because steel is the natural resource they have at hand, Russia has very few brass deposits. Even if that 54R was made by S&B, it's still going to be steel case, steel core corrosive milsurp ammo.

sir, brass is not a natural material it is an alloy

 

[AprilRains]

You know, I genuinely like learning about stuff but jesus I wish this thread would tone it down in the gun sperging

It's okay, we'll shift to comparing recipes once the tranchers become cannibals.

 

[SIGSEGV]

Run a magnet over it and find out.

The reason why the Soviets used steel case in everything is because steel is the natural resource they have at hand, Russia has very few brass deposits. Even if that 54R was made by S&B, it's still going to be steel case, steel core corrosive milsurp ammo. Some WERE brass cased but not a lot.

Don't have it with me, unfortunately, so I'll just have to take your word for it.

 

[White Devil]

sir, brass is not a natural material it is an alloy

You;re right and I am retarded. Probably getting mixed up with zinc. Either way the Russkies didnt do a lot with brass, ammo wise. The Bulgarians DID have brass cased 7.62x54R though, but all that stuff is going to be corrosive as shit. It's possible that's what @SIGSEGV has.

 

[AprilRains]

You;re right and I am retarded. Probably getting mixed up with zinc. Either way the Russkies didnt do a lot with brass, ammo wise. The Bulgarians DID have brass cased 7.62x54R though, but all that stuff is going to be corrosive as shit. It's possible that's what @SIGSEGV has.

Russia has ample amounts of both zinc and copper, which are the constituent minerals of brass.

 

[Rainbow Frog Army]

You know, I genuinely like learning about stuff but jesus I wish this thread would tone it down in the gun sperging

Honestly, I don't quite mind it except gun spergs? Some of us are feeling like we just wandered into a 101 class on the first day to find some asshole decided it'd be lulzy to swap its room with some class for the PhD students.

It's educational, the parts that make sense to those of us on the margins.

Russia has ample amounts of both zinc and copper, which are the constituent minerals of brass.

My bet is that the problem was manufacturing brass. They were kind of notorious for having shit supply chains; you just produced your quota and it making it onto the next point in the chain was Not Your Problem...and, often, not anybody else's problem, either...

 

[AprilRains]

My bet is that the problem was manufacturing brass. They were kind of notorious for having shit supply chains; you just produced your quota and it making it onto the next point in the chain was Not Your Problem...and, often, not anybody else's problem, either...

That, or they have simply shit tons of the constituent minerals of most steel alloys. Russia's mineral wealth is immense.

 

[Jump]

Slav shit surplus is "copper washed" steal casings. Basically crude copper plating via electrolysis. Its just thick enough to protect from rusting. They didn't use brass because they didnt need to use brass.

 

[Karen™]

Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with urban/suburban upper-middle-class-and-better idiots when it comes to thinking agriculture is simple?

They think that rural, working class, and/or conservative people are stupid, so figure that if they can do it, it must be easy.

Anyway, here are some ladies lunching:

And a robust, vibrant lamb being allowed outside for Easter:

Spoiler: full images

 

[White Devil]

Look at these beautiful wahmen enjoying their lunch and totally not looking like a bunch of dudes who just came out of a Warhammer store.

 

[SIGSEGV]

You;re right and I am retarded. Probably getting mixed up with zinc. Either way the Russkies didnt do a lot with brass, ammo wise. The Bulgarians DID have brass cased 7.62x54R though, but all that stuff is going to be corrosive as shit. It's possible that's what @SIGSEGV has.

Yeah I'm pretty sure that I have Bulgarian surplus, I bought the spam can from a local gun store about five years back so I can't remember for sure what the price label said. It's definitely corrosive, though.

They think that rural, working class, and/or conservative people are stupid, so figure that if they can do it, it must be easy.

Anyway, here are some ladies lunching:View attachment 2059328

And a robust, vibrant lamb being allowed outside for Easter:
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Spoiler: full images

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Oh my God that poor lamb looks fucking emaciated. Let the fucking thing be with its mother you retarded troons.

 

[Postal_Rat]

They think that rural, working class, and/or conservative people are stupid, so figure that if they can do it, it must be easy.

Anyway, here are some ladies lunching:View attachment 2059328

And a robust, vibrant lamb being allowed outside for Easter:
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Spoiler: full images

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That poor lamb is doomed I'm sad that they're not keeping the unhouse-trainable animal inside so at the very least they can suffer with it

I mean I know nothing about sheep but that doesn't look like a healthy one to me

 

[s0mbra]

They think that rural, working class, and/or conservative people are stupid, so figure that if they can do it, it must be easy.

Anyway, here are some ladies lunching:View attachment 2059328

And a robust, vibrant lamb being allowed outside for Easter:
View attachment 2059336

Spoiler: full images

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I admittedly don't know a lot about farm animals outside of chickens, but that lamb looks really skinny to me. Not just "newborn baby animal" skinny either.