Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Kate Farms Shill]

New york about a decade ago? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-students-twitcnew-york-h-idUSBRE85M0DF20120623

I always wonder in cases like this, how many of them really were involuntarily affected and thought something terrible was happening to them and how many joined in consciously for attention?

 

[NotYourMom]

I always wonder in cases like this, how many of them really were involuntarily affected and thought something terrible was affecting them and how many joined in consciously for attention?

I’ve always wondered the same.

It kind of reminds me of those shows where someone hypnotizes people in front of an audience. How many people play along and how many truly believe in their experience as it happens?

 

[PinkDancingDogs]

I think that the New York tourette's outbreak showed just how socially contagious certain types of behaviors are and how suggestible some populations are. I think there's all kinds of factors at play, but clearly sex, age, and social influences are all clearly high on the list. I think that it's virtually impossible to ever sort the one's that are just extremely suggestible from those who are actively seeking to belong and participate--after all, with tiktok in the current trend the girls are choosing to see videos including the behaviors or at least not telling tiktok to stop promoting those videos for them. Unfortunately, social media not only generally reinforces this kind of nonsense with attention, it quantifies it for you (by likes and subs etc). The judges have ruled, its way more likable to be an absurd witch with a tic or a spoonie w/ ever increasing problems than to be your average teen girl who goes to school, sleeps, and complains about no one understanding her. Social media doesn't reward well-adapted girls becoming productive and happy members of adult society, it rewards the Morgans, Jaquies, Hospital Princesses of the world. It's not going to get better soon,

 

[Groovelord Neato]

Some acutely ill people do test positive for a long time. I've seen people test 12+ weeks positive and be sick with it. Long COVID is real. It's not common, but does happen. (I consider anything after 3 weeks to be long COVID.)

It's possible to test positive for months since you keep shedding viral RNA for quite a while. Doesn't mean much.

Find me Long COVID that isn't one of post-viral syndrome, not clearing the infection the first time, anxiety, or damage influenza/other serious viral diseases wouldn't (including cytokine storm consequences, which is your immune system going nuts and attempting to kill you. Happens all the time).

The flu can and does wreck people's lungs, and it regularly kills kids.

The munchie Long COVID is the shit on fb where it's identical to anxiety (or social contagion) and is like "chronic" lyme, almost certainly 100% psychosomatic. I won't say anxiety is fake or anything, you can will yourself into a lot of weird conditions, but it's a lot better to have that then go on a hunt for the quack who will substantiate your delusions.

 

[LonesomeDud]

It's possible to test positive for months since you keep shedding viral RNA for quite a while. Doesn't mean much.

Find me Long COVID that isn't one of post-viral syndrome, not clearing the infection the first time, anxiety, or damage influenza/other serious viral diseases wouldn't (including cytokine storm consequences, which is your immune system going nuts and attempting to kill you. Happens all the time).

The flu can and does wreck people's lungs, and it regularly kills kids.

The munchie Long COVID is the shit on fb where it's identical to anxiety (or social contagion) and is like "chronic" lyme, almost certainly 100% psychosomatic. I won't say anxiety is fake or anything, you can will yourself into a lot of weird conditions, but it's a lot better to have that then go on a hunt for the quack who will substantiate your delusions.

Munchie bullshit happens, but people are legitimately so sick, positive for COVID, and have so much atelectisis in the lungs, they have active COVID for months.

 

[Groovelord Neato]

Munchie bullshit happens, but people are legitimately so sick, positive for COVID, and have so much atelectisis in the lungs, they have active COVID for months.

Well yeah, any serious viral disease has a long tail of rare sequelae. Multiple a tiny number by a billion and you will find someone with something (inc oddball stuff like erectile dysfunction).

Is it something to get worried about? No, since we aren't seeing hospitals flooded with people with lingering issues beyond the expected. And no, seeing "damage" on a radiograph or MRI isn't news; just about everyone has some minor defect or another. You need real controlled studies to determine exactly what COVID does differently than some other virus for it to be significant.

Again, once someone can prove statistically that COVID sequelae are somehow significantly distinct from other viral disease consequences (no one has done so in a year, and it wouldn't be very hard to do), then I'll care. Until then I'm happy to make fun of the munchies on facebook.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

I think that the New York tourette's outbreak showed just how socially contagious certain types of behaviors are and how suggestible some populations are. I think there's all kinds of factors at play, but clearly sex, age, and social influences are all clearly high on the list. I think that it's virtually impossible to ever sort the one's that are just extremely suggestible from those who are actively seeking to belong and participate--after all, with tiktok in the current trend the girls are choosing to see videos including the behaviors or at least not telling tiktok to stop promoting those videos for them. Unfortunately, social media not only generally reinforces this kind of nonsense with attention, it quantifies it for you (by likes and subs etc). The judges have ruled, its way more likable to be an absurd witch with a tic or a spoonie w/ ever increasing problems than to be your average teen girl who goes to school, sleeps, and complains about no one understanding her. Social media doesn't reward well-adapted girls becoming productive and happy members of adult society, it rewards the Morgans, Jaquies, Hospital Princesses of the world. It's not going to get better soon,

I used to think my uncle was absolutely insane because his children were not allowed to have social media or any unsupervised internet time until they graduated high school. I was that first generation of homeschoolers whose entire education was online so to me the idea of going through high school without having access to the internet was just unfathomable. Now holy shit, I don't know what I would do if I had teenagers. It feels like you drop your guard for a second and suddenly your kid has an onlyfans, a diaper fetish, a 50 year old boyfriend, and a new gender.

 

[Button Moon]

New york about a decade ago? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-students-twitcnew-york-h-idUSBRE85M0DF20120623

Very possibly. Although I can't find the original video, this one was a good short watch on the high school girls:

https://youtu.be/M-Sg0EM8fFM

 

[Refrigerator Poet]

It’s always fascinating to me how so many women who have faced relatively little hardship in life tend to spiral into complete mental breakdown over what is, essentially, extended discomfort.

Laura Winn is a great example of that. She keeps posting pics of her “swelling” that is causing her to die literally before our very eyes, and it’s clear that she has no idea what real swelling looks like. So clearly she has never broken a bone or suffered an injury to a joint or anything like that. It’s also fascinating that she denigrates the practice of medicine so thoroughly, while simultaneously flipping tables trying to get more of it. Which is it, Laura? Is it all bullshit, or is it life-saving? (PS - nobody on Earth dies from not having HRT - whether by patch or pill. You might be uncomfortable in varying degrees, but you’re not gonna die.)

All of her frothing at the mouth about Medicaid denying her medications says to me that they’re actually looking at her full list as it comes through their system and are course-correcting her doctor shopping. The system is functioning as designed.

 

[Pink Lily]

Notice how most of their diagnoses are very mundane and untestable. Just diagnosed on symptoms. Like if you are constantly moaning about fatigue to your doctor and all your tests and imaging are normal they might mention CFS/ME in conversation and suddenly these munchies call that a diagnosis, but in their case it is super speshul and SEVERE.
If you go to your doctor begging for pain meds, complaining of ‘constant’ pain in various parts of your body when tests are showing no cause then he might mention CRPS since there is absolutely no fucking test for that.

Then once they stop getting asspats for that one they will spot a nice sounding disease they’ve seen tagged in a fellow munchies Instagram post. Suddenly, they themselves have something that sounds really super speshul like Lupus. But, notice how they never show anything that proves their diagnosis of such actual provable diseases? If these munchies who so desperately want to be sick, got upgraded from CFS to super severe lupus then they would be waving the medical records like pom poms. Yet, eventually it comes out that they have ‘self diagnosed’ or only ‘suspected’ that they have Lupus or (insert disease here).
All they have are sad little mundane diagnoses that they have to hype on, until they stop feeling speshul anymore and have to fake more serious illnesses to get more attention.

 

[LonesomeDud]

Well yeah, any serious viral disease has a long tail of rare sequelae. Multiple a tiny number by a billion and you will find someone with something (inc oddball stuff like erectile dysfunction).

Is it something to get worried about? No, since we aren't seeing hospitals flooded with people with lingering issues beyond the expected. And no, seeing "damage" on a radiograph or MRI isn't news; just about everyone has some minor defect or another. You need real controlled studies to determine exactly what COVID does differently than some other virus for it to be significant.

Again, once someone can prove statistically that COVID sequelae are somehow significantly distinct from other viral disease consequences (no one has done so in a year, and it wouldn't be very hard to do), then I'll care. Until then I'm happy to make fun of the munchies on facebook.

I'm mainly talking about those who land in the MICU tubed and sedated, not hard 4's with Instagrams.

 

[Anti_munchie32]

Well guys, Amy Lee Fisher has kicked the bucket. She passed away on April Fools Day. She passed away from heart failure due to her ED. She was using Gastroparesis as a coverup for her ED. She brought this upon herself. Yes, I feel sorry for her husband, but at least he’s free from her insane munchie ass. She was a another Chronically Jaquie copycat and she died from doing so.

 

[Umaibae]

I wasn’t familiar with ALF, but she looks like a normal weight?

 

[milkmanagement]

I wasn’t familiar with ALF, but she looks like a normal weight?

she was when she died, but she was spoopy in the past

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

she was when she died, but she was spoopy in the past

IIRC actually first came to the attention of LCF on the pro-ana scumbags thread, not the munchie thread, because while she was truly starving herself spoopy, she was also flagrantly photoshopping herself even thinner on insta. She kept getting caught because she would never fix the warped backgrounds.

She also made videos instructing other girls step-by-step on how to purge everything they eat through a feeding tube.

She ate while on TPN and purged as much as she could. While that video shows her eating soft foods she famously claimed on insta, I think, that hamburgers and fries were "drainable" and she could eat them despite her super serial GP and intestinal paralysis. She claimed Hypokalemic Periodic Paralysis to try to excuse both her need to only consume sugar-free drinks (because true HKPP can be triggered by high carb meals) and the frequent crashes in her potassium level from purging. She was a smoker, which she never mentioned but accidentally gave away in a video where she had palmed an unlit cigarette and lighter. In and of itself not really that notable except it's well known ana-chans use cigarettes to avoid food. And she was visibly extremely uncomfortable with her weight gain after munching her way to TPN (while still admitting she was snarfing down and purging doughnuts.) She could not telegraph her ED any harder if she tried.

 

[Daughter of Cernunnos]

My pet munchie is similar in the launching. I am currently pondering on whether she is worth a full post on here. I did use to have huge amounts of material. I was sucked into her tales of woe, but when she found out what I do for a living she hounded me with middle of the night texts moaning about pain and temperature etc.

She has munched herself into a desperate situation, surgeries and wound breakdowns and a huge opiate problem. She posts ridiculous questions like "is it ok to drive after a bottle full of morphine?" And "how much diazepam is the max I can take?"

She also keeps a blanket and pillow in her car incase she faints.

ETA Do you discuss Allyson Suptin in here? Formally PTP, now asd-tea? Been having a bit of a dig around and finding her fascinating. She appears to have a homemade tube stuck up her nose for GP yet tolerates much oral intake, and doesn't seem to be lacking calorific intake. Also much drama and BPD type behaviour. Happy to do a longer post....

Oh noes! Get this poor thing a pump and gastric stimulator! She's wasting away! She's "BEHIND" on her feeds!!!!

 

[Kimchi4breakfast]

The "behind on feeds" for a morbidly obese bitch. she's gained like 200lbs with that low rent janky ass baby tube.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Kassandra/just.my.genes is the latest to go to the great MICU in the sky. She was the one with the $75k gofundme (archive) for her bucket list because she was dying of her very serious hEDS and kept trying to get into hospice for it. She eventually changed her claim to vEDS but there was something weird about it, like the mutation was on the right gene but it was a VUS not known to cause EDS or something like that? I honestly can't remember because I didn't really follow her and wasn't around much when she was "popular."

She had been giving herself bowel obstructions and perforations from abuse of morphine from what I can gather from her insta.




and if she's not dead then this is quite the cash grab for her.

 

[BigGarf]

Kassandra/just.my.genes is the latest to go to the great MICU in the sky. She was the one with the $75k gofundme (archive) for her bucket list because she was dying of her very serious hEDS and kept trying to get into hospice for it. She eventually changed her claim to vEDS but there was something weird about it, like the mutation was on the right gene but it was a VUS not known to cause EDS or something like that? I honestly can't remember because I didn't really follow her and wasn't around much when she was "popular."

She had been giving herself bowel obstructions and perforations from abuse of morphine from what I can gather from her insta.

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Oh she was such an insufferable cunt. ln June 2020 she started palliative care and hospice because her body “started to shut down” even though she looked pretty healthy. As KFS mentioned she claimed to be misdiagnosed with hEDS and started claiming vEDS, saying it’s terminal and doctors said she might not make it past her trip (yes she traveled in the middle of the pandemic because everything must be about her and she wanted to travel before her death guys!!). Obviously that is bullshit, since vEDS and hEDS are so different, that it’s impossible for someone, who goes to the doctors all the time to stay misdiagnosed for years. She had genetic testing, but it came back with only one gene mutation present, and you need at least two to get diagnosed. She also doesn’t have typical vEDS features. Not to mention that vEDS usually doesn’t feature that much hypermobility, and to be diagnosed with hEDS you need at least 6 Beighton points. Her other highlights include:
- saturation going down to 69% and her still being fine (she never said exactly why she needs it in the first place)
- doctors crying for her
- OTT photoshoot in a wedding dress (??) with her oxygen concentrator
- eating two pizzas by herself despite severe GI issues and being TPN dependent

I highly encourage interested individuals to go through her instagram captions, because she’s a definition of entitled, OTT white bitch.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

I'm mainly talking about those who land in the MICU tubed and sedated, not hard 4's with Instagrams.

But Guillain Barre syndrome is just so unfashionable. Hard to take bodycheck selfies for the 'gram if you're paralyzed from the neck down. I guess it is a good way to get the coveted IgG, though. It raises the question: if a munchie gets IgG and can't post about it on Instagram, did it really happen?

Spoiler: Guillain Barre sperg

GBS is scary, scary shit. A family acquaintance who was in his mid 50s woke up one day a few years ago completely unable to move. He ended up spending almost a year in the hospital trached and vented, then needed months of inpatient rehab. He eventually made a full recovery but needed an in-home aide for a while. Last I heard his doctor thought he must have had a cold or other viral infection that he never even noticed, but it triggered an immune response that nearly killed him. It's enough to turn anyone into a munchie who analyzes every sniffle.