Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

[There_is_no_Dana]

So it's fine for them to masturbate in front of doctors and nurses (who didn't consent to having a woman try to coom during birth in front of them)

Yes, exactly. All of this is 100% for the mother and she is the only person who matters in her mind.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Has there been any mention of Luna’s surgery that this trip was supposedly for? In these recent photos it’s obvious she’s not had anything done and has not even been prepped for possible surgery. I’m wondering if the doctors refused to perform the surgery Robyn wanted once they examined Luna so now are just pacifying her with some therapists and other pointless stuff since she will be on vacay there for another week anyway and Luna is covered for certain services.

That's pitiable

God is this a new version of the “eagle eyes” stuff that Gwen Hartley tried with her potatoes. Do the supposed professionals that help with this stuff ever tell the parents that it’s a waste of time? I’m sure they can easily tell the children who are sentient and the potatoes when engaging with this stuff. But do they just play along with the potatoes and bill insurance out the wazoo?

So does this mean Robyn is losing her telepathic abilities? Or it’s just something new she found at the CA hospital that Medicaid would pay for so why not? She’s very adept at milking Medicaid for every freebie therapy, service and equipment.

So still going through followers to find some good things to post..actually had to just report an account for CP that she follows.

Let's just say she follows someone who likes to post pics of her breastfeeding her 5 and 6 year old with all of them naked on full display....

The Empathic Nutrionist since we all know you read this. That is fucking sick!

At first I thought Robyn was just a woo nutter but the last few months and Atlas’s homebirth
have convinced me she’s a dangerously deluded individual. Luna is already going to die from her lunacy and Atlas is in grave danger.

Seeing a one month old wedged into a high chair is fucked up - he’s not meant to be forced into an upright sitting position. Why would she even have him at the table like that ffs? Is she trying to make him eat some puréed salmon or some stupid shit? He’s two months old! Just put a blanket on the floor and let him lay there! Wtf, this is the easiest age for that shit, he can’t roll over and can’t go anywhere. He will happily lay on his back or tummy and it allows him to start using his muscles to get to strength to reach the turning over and sitting up stage in a few months.

Why would she force him into a high chair meant for a 9 month old? (Notice she’s got weird foam padding and blankets wedged into that high chair just to keep him in it because he’s far too small and not ready to sit up.)

Obviously the most important part of that breakfast was Robyn taking glamour shots of her breakfast for IG.

Robyn isn’t just a typical woo mom. She suffers from intense magical thinking (and extreme narcissism). For most sane people Luna’s tragic home birth and ensuing brain damage would have been the tragic wake up call to the dangers of this BS, but it made Robyn double down on it.

I think Luna’s homebirth-death made her erase any form of doubt or questioning from her mind. If she even for a moment questions the woo and magical thinking nonsense then that could trigger uncomfortable thoughts about her responsibility for Luna’s tragic condition, which causes not guilt, but intolerable narcissistic ego injury. This is why she is convinced she will cure Luna with the same brand of Robyn brand woo that destroyed her brain.

After Luna dies and causes extreme narcissistic injury by making Robyn look bad - the super-woo was supposed to cure her after all - she will go to dangerous extremes to prove Atlas is a super baby all due to Robyn’s superior brand of genius woo. I’m sure all of Luna’s suffering and death will be placed on the medical establishment’s doorstep because Robyn’s woo is infallible.

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PL: But I worked with a woman who gave birth in her kitchen, into a bucket, with her dog watching. At the time I thought the weirdest part of this incredibly weird birth was the dog watching, but maybe it’s not that unusual with these home birth hippie nutters.

Spoiler

In her defense most of her life had been spent on a farm assisting large animals give birth, she was one of those women who had reached up into many a horse to help rotate or pull a foal out when it got stuck. So she had some unusual ideas and lots of firsthand experience with animal birth influencing her.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Has there been any mention of Luna’s surgery that this trip was supposedly for? In these recent photos it’s obvious she’s not had anything done and has not even been prepped for possible surgery. I’m wondering if the doctors refused to perform the surgery Robyn wanted once they examined Luna so now are just pacifying her with some therapists and other pointless stuff since she will be on vacay there for another week anyway and Luna is covered for certain services.

It was a shunt assessment so it doesn't require surgery it is more so that they assess if the shunt is still working and adjust flow if needed.

So does this mean Robyn is losing her telepathic abilities? Or it’s just something new she found at the CA hospital that Medicaid would pay for so why not? She’s very adept at milking Medicaid for every freebie therapy, service and equipment.

I'm starting to question how much of the services are via that. She's using items she had people gift her off an amazon wish list. A speech therapist would have come with all these items. Pretty much every item we see the therapist use is off a amazon wish list she has including the seating chair.

Why would she force him into a high chair meant for a 9 month old? (Notice she’s got weird foam padding and blankets wedged into that high chair just to keep him in it because he’s far too small and not ready to sit up.)

Obviously the most important part of that breakfast was Robyn taking glamour shots of her breakfast for IG.

Robyn isn’t just a typical woo mom. She suffers from intense magical thinking (and extreme narcissism). For most sane people Luna’s tragic home birth and ensuing brain damage would have been the tragic wake up call to the dangers of this BS, but it made Robyn double down on it.

The seating thing she used I thought many people stopped using those cause they were unsafe. I remember you used to bring them to restaurants and shove them on the side of the table, but then that just stopped.

Also shes in Las Vegas again cause the chiro is in las vegas, but that definitely isnt the home shes been showing off before.

I think Luna’s homebirth-death made her erase any form of doubt or questioning from her mind. If she even for a moment questions the woo and magical thinking nonsense then that could trigger uncomfortable thoughts about her responsibility for Luna’s tragic condition, which causes not guilt, but intolerable narcissistic ego injury. This is why she is convinced she will cure Luna with the same brand of Robyn brand woo that destroyed her brain.

After Luna dies and causes extreme narcissistic injury by making Robyn look bad - the super-woo was supposed to cure her after all - she will go to dangerous extremes to prove Atlas is a super baby all due to Robyn’s superior brand of genius woo. I’m sure all of Luna’s suffering and death will be placed on the medical establishment’s doorstep because Robyn’s woo is infallible.

Considering the shit she follows she'll always have someone supporting the woo. Haven't seen one medical doctor in her follow list. In a way the fact she privatized proves she in some way even if unconsciously that she is broadcasting something that she shoudlnt be praised for.

 

[eDove]

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From the site of the chiro:
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"The reality is, it’s never a bad time to start seeing a chiropractor. It is perfectly safe for infants and young children to see a chiropractor. In fact, infants can benefit greatly from a chiropractor because they are trained to assess an infant’s hips, necks, and collarbones.
As children grow up, regular visits to the chiropractor are important. If you notice your child is expressing discomfort with their back and or neck, avoids certain activities, or is displaying poor posture, that is a sign that you should take them to see a chiropractor."

Infants do NOT. NEED. CHIROPORACTORS. Their little bones have barely hardened yet. Any Chiroproactor who agrees to work on an infant is a hack. No exceptions.

 

[Umaibae]

Atlas is definitely not old enough to be placed in a high chair - the recommendation is five or six months minimum, depending on manufacturer and the child’s individual development. Hell, you shouldn’t even put a baby in a bumbo seat before three months. This is an injury waiting to happen at best.

Also, is it just me, or is this high chair sus as fuck? One slightly less tight bolt to the table and BAM, baby on the floor.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Has there been any mention of Luna’s surgery that this trip was supposedly for? In these recent photos it’s obvious she’s not had anything done and has not even been prepped for possible surgery. I’m wondering if the doctors refused to perform the surgery Robyn wanted once they examined Luna so now are just pacifying her with some therapists and other pointless stuff since she will be on vacay there for another week anyway and Luna is covered for certain services.


God is this a new version of the “eagle eyes” stuff that Gwen Hartley tried with her potatoes. Do the supposed professionals that help with this stuff ever tell the parents that it’s a waste of time? I’m sure they can easily tell the children who are sentient and the potatoes when engaging with this stuff. But do they just play along with the potatoes and bill insurance out the wazoo?

So does this mean Robyn is losing her telepathic abilities? Or it’s just something new she found at the CA hospital that Medicaid would pay for so why not? She’s very adept at milking Medicaid for every freebie therapy, service and equipment.


At first I thought Robyn was just a woo nutter but the last few months and Atlas’s homebirth
have convinced me she’s a dangerously deluded individual. Luna is already going to die from her lunacy and Atlas is in grave danger.

Seeing a one month old wedged into a high chair is fucked up - he’s not meant to be forced into an upright sitting position. Why would she even have him at the table like that ffs? Is she trying to make him eat some puréed salmon or some stupid shit? He’s two months old! Just put a blanket on the floor and let him lay there! Wtf, this is the easiest age for that shit, he can’t roll over and can’t go anywhere. He will happily lay on his back or tummy and it allows him to start using his muscles to get to strength to reach the turning over and sitting up stage in a few months.

Why would she force him into a high chair meant for a 9 month old? (Notice she’s got weird foam padding and blankets wedged into that high chair just to keep him in it because he’s far too small and not ready to sit up.)

Obviously the most important part of that breakfast was Robyn taking glamour shots of her breakfast for IG.

Robyn isn’t just a typical woo mom. She suffers from intense magical thinking (and extreme narcissism). For most sane people Luna’s tragic home birth and ensuing brain damage would have been the tragic wake up call to the dangers of this BS, but it made Robyn double down on it.

I think Luna’s homebirth-death made her erase any form of doubt or questioning from her mind. If she even for a moment questions the woo and magical thinking nonsense then that could trigger uncomfortable thoughts about her responsibility for Luna’s tragic condition, which causes not guilt, but intolerable narcissistic ego injury. This is why she is convinced she will cure Luna with the same brand of Robyn brand woo that destroyed her brain.

After Luna dies and causes extreme narcissistic injury by making Robyn look bad - the super-woo was supposed to cure her after all - she will go to dangerous extremes to prove Atlas is a super baby all due to Robyn’s superior brand of genius woo. I’m sure all of Luna’s suffering and death will be placed on the medical establishment’s doorstep because Robyn’s woo is infallible.


PL: But I worked with a woman who gave birth in her kitchen, into a bucket, with her dog watching. At the time I thought the weirdest part of this incredibly weird birth was the dog watching, but maybe it’s not that unusual with these home birth hippie nutters.

Spoiler

In her defense most of her life had been spent on a farm assisting large animals give birth, she was one of those women who had reached up into many a horse to help rotate or pull a foal out when it got stuck. So she had some unusual ideas and lots of firsthand experience with animal birth influencing her.

I mean dogs watch you poop bc they want to protect you so I can see a dog wanting to be around a mom giving birth as they will pick up on the anxiety.

But forcing your dog to touch your pregnant belly and pose for pictures? Thats fuckin bizarre.

 

[There_is_no_Dana]

Most chiropractors are unnecessary snake oil salesmen. There are a few that do massage and PT without the woo, some have an NP on staff to treat minor injuries or prescribe extra strength ibuprofen and stuff, they usually don't treat children at all though.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Found the seat:

Inglesina Fast Table Chair
"Use: for children between 6 and 36 months up to 37lbs"
It is fabric based:
"I loved this chair recommended it to all our friends. We used it at restaurants pre covid and now at home. However, the entire seam ripped from the seat to the siding which made me upset due to the safety risk."
"Very hard to clean. Other brands have removable cloth piece but this one does not come off. There is also a gap between chair and table where kid drops a lot of food."
"Worked great at first. Then one day the chair just fell off the side of the table with the baby in it. "
"By the time my son was able to wiggle around in it one of table grips on one of the arms would come loose. "
"But once my little man turned 11 months he got into the standing phase. It only has a belt to go around his waiste. No matter how tight we make it, hes still able to stand up and then get out. This product needs a 5 point harness system. "
"This is an unsafe chair. My grandson fell off the bar while still in it. He was hurt. "

And on and on...

Also she has added 2 new things to her wishlist for Luna:

Kidzone DIY Race #00-99 6V Kids Toy Electric Ride On Bumper Car Vehicle Remote Control 360 Spin ASTM-Certified, Purple
"This fully rechargeable and powered fun Kidzone ride-on toy car can spin a full 360 degrees with simple joystick controls
With simplified joystick controls and a max speed of 0.75mph 6v electric spinning car is a great game tool for your children
Includes a 6V rechargeable battery and charger to power up the fun whenever you want"

Tushbaby The Only Safety Certified Hip Seat Baby Carrier - As Seen On Shark Tank

 

[FluffyCat9000]

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That video... I'm still yet to see visual evidence of her crossing the midline with her limbs herself. The few times I've seen it during her therapy it's obvious from the cuts that someone else has positioned her there. In the video her mom has positioned her like that so when she corrects the twist it looks deliberate and not just that she's reflexively kicked back into neutral position.

Lack of midline crossing (which should develop by 6months) not only shows how behind she is but also the lack of brain hemisphere communication as each side limb doesn't recognise the other. Again, I question her range of movement or understanding of what's going on around her.

I wonder if her proprioception is ok or not. Sight and hearing aside, isn't lack of midline crossing a sign of impaired proprioception (knowing where your body is in relation to each part)? Without proprioception her movements seem even more accidental rather than focused.

 

[Allo Vera]

Infants do NOT. NEED. CHIROPORACTORS. Their little bones have barely hardened yet. Any Chiroproactor who agrees to work on an infant is a hack. No exceptions.

Not only that, but chiropractic is complete bullshit, like homeopathy.

 

[GenociderSyo]

That video... I'm still yet to see visual evidence of her crossing the midline with her limbs herself. The few times I've seen it during her therapy it's obvious from the cuts that someone else has positioned her there. In the video her mom has positioned her like that so when she corrects the twist it looks deliberate and not just that she's reflexively kicked back into neutral position.

Lack of midline crossing (which should develop by 6months) not only shows how behind she is but also the lack of brain hemisphere communication as each side limb doesn't recognise the other. Again, I question her range of movement or understanding of what's going on around her.

I wonder if her proprioception is ok or not. Sight and hearing aside, isn't lack of midline crossing a sign of impaired proprioception (knowing where your body is in relation to each part)? Without proprioception her movements seem even more accidental rather than focused.

An inaiblity to cross midline effects all motor skills, sight, etc. You see it in autism sometimes.

I think many of her "purposely movements" are seizures though.

It hints at an inability of the brain hemispheres to function together. You also see it in disorders where the corpus callosum is damaged or missing.

It's weird but shes wearing compression leggings and her legs are raised. They are not part of the outfit. Also, gotta love how she has no issue using hospice's people when she used to complain all they wanted was her daughter to die.


Putting this in its own damn post...Warning : Video 4 is a seizure...

 

[Celestia's Little Helper]

Kidzone DIY Race #00-99 6V Kids Toy Electric Ride On Bumper Car Vehicle Remote Control 360 Spin ASTM-Certified, Purple

Christ Almighty, do you think she intends for Luna to use this as a mobility device? Instead of actual medical equipment???? Maybe I'll start keeping track of how much money will she waste on silly useless (to Luna) devices before Luna finally gets taken into God's realm.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Christ Almighty, do you think she intends for Luna to use this as a mobility device? Instead of actual medical equipment???? Maybe I'll start keeping track of how much money will she waste on silly useless (to Luna) devices before Luna finally gets taken into God's realm.

Ahh but shes not wasting money. All these items shes getting she begs people for via her Luna Wishlist and her Atlas Wistlist on amazon. She has her followers and thralls buy these things.

 

[Celestia's Little Helper]

Ahh but shes not wasting money. All these items shes getting she begs people for via her Luna Wishlist and her Atlas Wistlist on amazon. She has her followers and thralls buy these things.

Her money, her followers' money, the government's money.... what's the difference to Robyn? Nonetheless, so much money is going to be wasted on this sad little creature.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

It was a shunt assessment so it doesn't require surgery it is more so that they assess if the shunt is still working and adjust flow if needed.


I'm starting to question how much of the services are via that. She's using items she had people gift her off an amazon wish list. A speech therapist would have come with all these items. Pretty much every item we see the therapist use is off a amazon wish list she has including the seating chair.


The seating thing she used I thought many people stopped using those cause they were unsafe. I remember you used to bring them to restaurants and shove them on the side of the table, but then that just stopped.

Also shes in Las Vegas again cause the chiro is in las vegas, but that definitely isnt the home shes been showing off before.


Considering the shit she follows she'll always have someone supporting the woo. Haven't seen one medical doctor in her follow list. In a way the fact she privatized proves she in some way even if unconsciously that she is broadcasting something that she shoudlnt be praised for.

Ah, I didn’t know the whole trip was just for an assessment or adjustment. Sheesh. That’s a lot of travel for something pretty minor that I’m sure plenty of hospitals in Vegas would do, but I guess getting anyone to do it in the first place was the issue. Robyn will always manage to find a doctor willing to do anything as long as he can bill Medicaid for it.

Maybe they moved into their new place. Robyn mentioned they were planning on moving when she was arranging stuff for Atlas, said something about doing all of the arranging some linen closet but it would just be temporary since they would soon be moving.

Given that we know they are keeping their income as low as possible to stay eligible for Medicaid coverage for the entire family (to the point of asking for GC instead of cash) it would also mean she is qualifying for HUD vouchers and housing, food stamps, the works.

She would get priority on waiting lists at some of the better HUD approved residences due to having a disabled child and being pregnant/newborn so one of the apartments or condos they were on a waiting list for probably became available so they knew they would be moving April 1. I’d guess they took the California vacay while her family helped move their stuff into the new place, so when they returned it was into their new apartment.

I can’t tell the difference honestly. Everything looks so generic and staged in Robyn’s IG posts it’s all indistinguishable to me. For someone who claims to be so all natural and woo her home looks like it’s filled with cheap crap from Target instead of the all natural, handmade, organic, no-plastics type home I’d expect. Then again I’ve known authentic hippie organic types that aren’t idiots, not the “photos props for IG ” and woo-bullshit types who just fall for every corporate "organic label" and woo targeted demo product under the sun like Robyn. I swear to god she'd buy organic plastic crystals infused with extra-polyester healing crystals filled essential oils.

On the subject of her family. Robyn claimed they moved to Vegas to be close to family, I'm assuming hers but I guess it could be her husbands? But "the family" is never seen to my recollection. I wonder if they just refuse to participate in her SM sideshow horrors or if they actually try to avoid her. I could imagine them trying to help her out, given disabled dying child and newborn, but also being horrified at her crazy woo bullshit. I'd have lost my goddamned mind if I had a relative that ended up with a baby like Luna due to a homebirth and then turned around and insisted on it again with baby #2. (Lost my mind and reported her to CPS.) Then again, I might be giving any family too much credit. You usually don't get adults as deluded as Robyn and hubby if there were normal parents in the picture to begin with, it can happen but usually grandparents are only marginally better than their adult offspring. (Drug addicts and severe mental illnesses being the exceptions to that rule.)

Found the seat:
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Inglesina Fast Table Chair
"Use: for children between 6 and 36 months up to 37lbs"
It is fabric based:
"I loved this chair recommended it to all our friends. We used it at restaurants pre covid and now at home. However, the entire seam ripped from the seat to the siding which made me upset due to the safety risk."
"Very hard to clean. Other brands have removable cloth piece but this one does not come off. There is also a gap between chair and table where kid drops a lot of food."
"Worked great at first. Then one day the chair just fell off the side of the table with the baby in it. "
"By the time my son was able to wiggle around in it one of table grips on one of the arms would come loose. "
"But once my little man turned 11 months he got into the standing phase. It only has a belt to go around his waiste. No matter how tight we make it, hes still able to stand up and then get out. This product needs a 5 point harness system. "
"This is an unsafe chair. My grandson fell off the bar while still in it. He was hurt. "

And on and on...

Also she has added 2 new things to her wishlist for Luna:
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Kidzone DIY Race #00-99 6V Kids Toy Electric Ride On Bumper Car Vehicle Remote Control 360 Spin ASTM-Certified, Purple
"This fully rechargeable and powered fun Kidzone ride-on toy car can spin a full 360 degrees with simple joystick controls
With simplified joystick controls and a max speed of 0.75mph 6v electric spinning car is a great game tool for your children
Includes a 6V rechargeable battery and charger to power up the fun whenever you want"

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Tushbaby The Only Safety Certified Hip Seat Baby Carrier - As Seen On Shark Tank

This private information is unavailable to guests due to policies enforced by third-parties.

I can't imagine anything worse to put Luna in that that bumper car death trap. So perfect for a child who can't even hold up their soft open gigantic skull or has even a tiny bit of motor coordination. I bet she already has the tik-tok video planned for it, how she will tape Luna's hands onto the controls, the soundtrack for it. She can already empathetically feel it going viral.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Vid #4

 

[GenociderSyo]

Hubbie suddenly tagged her in some old pics/vids of Luna that seem new/old:


This Video was refered to as "Luna and Robyn Playing"

 

[Y'all Might]

Putting this in its own damn post...Warning : Video 4 is a seizure...
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Wow, that's the first time I've seen an Atlas seizure. Luna is just being her regular potato self in video #4.

I may have misspoke I meant the video where luna's eyes are looking to opposite sides.

Well, he turns his head a little and sticks his tongue out. Under most circumstances I'd think this was just normal baby behavior, but I'm inclined to think that he's just as fucked up as Luna is, considering his parentage.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Wow, that's the first time I've seen an Atlas seizure. Luna is just being her regular potato self in video #4.

I may have misspoke I meant the video where luna's eyes are looking to opposite sides.

 

[tacosauces]

Found the seat:
View attachment 2066922
Inglesina Fast Table Chair
"Use: for children between 6 and 36 months up to 37lbs"
It is fabric based:
"I loved this chair recommended it to all our friends. We used it at restaurants pre covid and now at home. However, the entire seam ripped from the seat to the siding which made me upset due to the safety risk."
"Very hard to clean. Other brands have removable cloth piece but this one does not come off. There is also a gap between chair and table where kid drops a lot of food."
"Worked great at first. Then one day the chair just fell off the side of the table with the baby in it. "
"By the time my son was able to wiggle around in it one of table grips on one of the arms would come loose. "
"But once my little man turned 11 months he got into the standing phase. It only has a belt to go around his waiste. No matter how tight we make it, hes still able to stand up and then get out. This product needs a 5 point harness system. "
"This is an unsafe chair. My grandson fell off the bar while still in it. He was hurt. "

And on and on...

Also she has added 2 new things to her wishlist for Luna:
View attachment 2066946
Kidzone DIY Race #00-99 6V Kids Toy Electric Ride On Bumper Car Vehicle Remote Control 360 Spin ASTM-Certified, Purple
"This fully rechargeable and powered fun Kidzone ride-on toy car can spin a full 360 degrees with simple joystick controls
With simplified joystick controls and a max speed of 0.75mph 6v electric spinning car is a great game tool for your children
Includes a 6V rechargeable battery and charger to power up the fun whenever you want"

Luna strapped into and zooming around in a remote control bumper would be equal parts horrifying and hilarious