The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
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In all fairness, this is the first time I've seen the prosecution with a competent foot forward. I'm wondering if this is their last guy and they saved the best for last.
See he comes off super professional but as someone whose been around doctor's their entire life, It comes off as extremely incompetent. Not that he doesn't know what he's doing, but that he doesn't know he's not in a lab.

Every doctor and nurse I've spoken to, regardless of field or specialization, does not act like this. Doctor's are not trained to work in numbers and figures, maybe with the except of anesthesiology, ( but I don't know any of those.)

I can tell this guy works primarily with corpses or soon to be corpses.

Remember how the EMTs struggled with the technical term for death? How they kept having to go "well, yes, dead in the laypersons term, his heart wasn't beating".

Take note that the people on the scene can see a guy unconscious, with no heartbeat, and say "he's only technically dead" while this guy is like "pause the video, I can watch his soul flee his body at 3:34"
 
this thread turned from smug to cope real fucking fast lmao
literal mirror image of reddit turning from cope to smug at the same exact time
Lol I like the cope in this thread. I'm gonna win my bet and Chauvin is gonna go to Big Black prison jail, which - for him, in all eventualities - will be a literal death sentence.

The system works perfectly.
Reminds me of US election night 2020
 
I really do think that that was the best witness by far to be fair. While I think our pulmonary doctor friend was intentionally paid to gloss over Floyd's medical history (he lampshaded it but every time he did he said it "didn't matter"), he at least had good points sprinkled throughout. I'm still open minded about the case, but prosecution needs to try a little harder to convince me that this wasn't a case of OD.
 
If you're heading to ICU you're probably not in a good way but 40% seemed high. After checking some literature 14-25% mortality is what would be expected at an ICU. It was a huge thing when ICU mortality reached 35% during Covid.
Depends on the patient cohort. ICUs specializing in trauma care will have a higher mortality rate than units looking after post operative transplant or heart surgery patients. But yes 40% is an insanely high number. Harold Shipman, the serial killer doctor, was from his part of the world. Maybe this guy has been administering Fentanyl to his patients to help them along their way? After all he thinks that a lethal dose of the stuff doesn't cause respiratory depression, which is an interesting take for a medical professional.

Meth doesnt make your respiration being depressed from fentanyl disappear, it gives you energy you wouldn't have otherwise to expend trying to breef if you're having trouble breefing

Which puts a strain on your heart
Last I checked meth is not being used as an antidote for Opiate overdoses.
 
this thread turned from smug to cope real fucking fast lmao
literal mirror image of reddit turning from cope to smug at the same exact time
I'm not really hugely impressed that after several days they finally have a witness who doesn't completely tard out the instant he's asked questions.
 
See he comes off super professional but as someone whose been around doctor's their entire life, It comes off as extremely incompetent. Not that he doesn't know what he's doing, but that he doesn't know he's not in a lab.

Every doctor and nurse I've spoken to, regardless of field or specialization, does not act like this. Doctor's are not trained to work in numbers and figures, maybe with the except of anesthesiology, ( but I don't know any of those.)

I can tell this guy works primarily with corpses or soon to be corpses.

Remember how the EMTs struggled with the technical term for death? How they kept having to go "well, yes, dead in the laypersons term, his heart wasn't beating".

Take note that the people on the scene can see a guy unconscious, with no heartbeat, and say "he's only technically dead" while this guy is like "pause the video, I can watch his soul flee his body at 3:34"
Figured that might be a case. I've never heard a doctor talk in absolutes without running a barrage of tests first because everything about humans has billion factors that are impossible to guess. Guessing someone's lung capacity without considering physical fitness or smoking habits makes him sound like a theoretical physicist more than a practicing doctor. "It's 34, if you ignore air resistance and friction."

Defence should be interesting.
 
Lol I like the cope in this thread. I'm gonna win my bet and Chauvin is gonna go to Big Black prison jail, which - for him, in all eventualities - will be a literal death sentence.

The system works perfectly.
Jokes on them. The moment they pin Chauvin to the ground, their Oxygen reservoirs will hit 44% and the only thing Chauvin will feel is a leg jerking in a hypoxic seizure.

The system works perfectly
 
See he comes off super professional but as someone whose been around doctor's their entire life, It comes off as extremely incompetent. Not that he doesn't know what he's doing, but that he doesn't know he's not in a lab.

Every doctor and nurse I've spoken to, regardless of field or specialization, does not act like this. Doctor's are not trained to work in numbers and figures, maybe with the except of anesthesiology, ( but I don't know any of those.)

I can tell this guy works primarily with corpses or soon to be corpses.

Remember how the EMTs struggled with the technical term for death? How they kept having to go "well, yes, dead in the laypersons term, his heart wasn't beating".

Take note that the people on the scene can see a guy unconscious, with no heartbeat, and say "he's only technically dead" while this guy is like "pause the video, I can watch his soul flee his body at 3:34"
I meant more that this guy is actually backing his opinion up with data. Not nebulousness and personal feelings.

I'm sure this is the first time in the trial where some members of the jury could have been swayed.
 
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See he comes off super professional but as someone whose been around doctor's their entire life, It comes off as extremely incompetent. Not that he doesn't know what he's doing, but that he doesn't know he's not in a lab.

Every doctor and nurse I've spoken to, regardless of field or specialization, does not act like this. Doctor's are not trained to work in numbers and figures, maybe with the except of anesthesiology, ( but I don't know any of those.)

I can tell this guy works primarily with corpses or soon to be corpses.

Remember how the EMTs struggled with the technical term for death? How they kept having to go "well, yes, dead in the laypersons term, his heart wasn't beating".

Take note that the people on the scene can see a guy unconscious, with no heartbeat, and say "he's only technically dead" while this guy is like "pause the video, I can watch his soul flee his body at 3:34"
There is only one sure sign of death and that is putrefaction. Science has grappled with the definition from the beginning.
 
this thread turned from smug to cope real fucking fast lmao
literal mirror image of reddit turning from cope to smug at the same exact time
Maybe it's terminal Cope doing the speaking, but I'm more just really confused. The oxygen levels for example, just happen to line up with the perfect number for his case, despite all of those number being, at best, completely assumed. And the desired number being obtained from another formula, which is a derivation of the turbulent flow formula.

That's... precise... ya know?

When I can I'll ask a doc whose been in malpractice cases if this is the regular kind of argumentation made, cause this guy does a lot of malpractice witnessing,
 
I meant more that this guy is actually backing his opinion up with data. Not nebulousness and personal feelings.

I'm sure this is the first time in the trial where some members of the jury could have been swayed.
I am generally of the opinion this is the kind of material you should open with, not wait until the jury has been numbed into near unsconsciousness. Why was this guy not on earlier? This is the legal equivalent of burying the lede.
 
I did all the math and measurements myself. They like to talk about me being a career felon, but less about being a genius mathematician and physiologist. Did you know bananas are a fantastic source of nutrition to support heart health?
Hey, George, I need help with a math problem. What is 1x1?
 
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