The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
Status
Not open for further replies.
I remember in high school learning about civil rights, the whole long list of Martin Luther King Jr., Rosa Parks, the bus thing, sit-ins, all that jazz. Then the 70s roll around and the history book started talking about the use of buses to force integration that happened then, and it gets maybe a paragraph at most with the summary being essentially "and then in the 1970s they used buses to desegregate schools and some people didn't like it" and then it immediately moved on. I never thought much about it until years later when I read about this: "Black teenagers in Roxbury threw rocks at auto mechanic Richard Poleet's car and caused him to crash. The youths dragged him out and crushed his skull with nearby paving stones. When police arrived, the man was surrounded by a crowd of 100 chanting "Let him die" while lying in a coma from which he never recovered."
Really makes you think.
And if any Italians are reading this, what did your history books say about the anni di piombo? Did they take a truly neutral tone or did they speak more favorably of one side than the other?


Goodness. I'm wondering who was more ticked at the "integration", the whites or blacks?

It's funny. Last month I was visiting my grandma (82) and grandpa (92) at their house while my mom (65) was there. She's the typical boomer, been married like 8 times and buys a new house every 5 years and she brought her boy friend with her this time.

We got to talking about serving in the military and stuff like that and my grandpa mentioned when he joined in the late 40's, it was still segregated. My mom's boy friend pipes up and starts talking about his service in 'Nam and how all the black people that were joining were doing so because they were given a choice of go to prison or join the army, etc. He said you really had to watch your back as all the black people basically formed gangs and if they caught a white boy by himself, they'd surround him and demand jewelry, money etc, or they might just beat the crap out of you for fun. If you didn't comply, they'd group together as witnesses and report you for "racist" stuff that they made up. So he had a few stories of stuff like that. And another one of his first day after training where in the "mess hall", the black cooks there would randomly choose not to give food to white people (his countering by demanding of the black cook to "serve him" apparently caused a huge brawl and food fight)

But his best story was.... after he left the service, sometime in the 70's, he had some mutt dog with him in his truck and while stopped at a gas station, someone took the dog from the back of the truck. Two weeks later, he's driving past a trailer park of mostly black folk, when he sees his dog tied to a tree. So he parks in the street and runs over and cuts the rope and tells the dog to get into the truck. At the same time, the front door of the trailer swings open with a black man yelling "what are you doing!?". He yells back "This is my dog and you're a thief!". The black man stands there motionless for a few seconds and yells back "You owe me $20 for feeding it for the last two weeks!" Oh, and the dog was apparently used as a "bait" dog in a fighting ring based on its now shredded ears.

Oh and he had another story, I guess in the late 50's or early 60's. The city desegregated the schools and forced the blacks into the white school. The blacks were ticked because the white school was a much farther walk away, and the old black school was actually air conditioned.
 
So whats the odds of a chimpout happening? I can't wait for nigger riots.
100%
They could find chauvin guilty of being literally Hitler and having planned Floyd's murder decades in advance, and give him the ol' blood eagle on the spot, and the nig-nogs would still riot, loot, murder and burn everything to the ground.
 
Did they ever produce the totally fake bill that justified the arrest in the first place?

Also lol if there's riots the kabash is gonna get out on them real quick. Gotta make it look everything's all well and good now that a non-Hitler is in office
Yes, and there were several other fake twenties found in Floyd’s car as well.
 
big deal that the combover fag stated that people can survive dosages of fentanyl that high, all of this is irrelevant when the criminal standard necessary to convict chauvin is set at approximately 90% or so, which is roughly the level of 'reasonable doubt'

it's been possible, even more than possible, that he didn't overdose and that chauvin was culpable in some way in floyd's death the entire time, but that doesn't fucking doesn't matter

the only question that does matter is whether chauvin's culpability can be established to the requisite standard of legal proof, which, as i stated above, is an approximately 90% probability of guilt (in an ideal court with perfectly rational jurors, of course)

virtually all of the circumstances surrounding floyd's death preclude the possibility of not educing a reasonable doubt; the very fact that this went to trial at all is a scandal and shows a politicised prosecution bowing to the whims and will of the american negro lynch mob

this would never have gone to trial in australia and a magistrate would have struck it down at a commital hearing; it probably would not have gone to trial in the u.s had you reversed the races of floyd and chauvin as well
 
big deal that the combover fag stated that people can survive dosages of fentanyl that high, all of this is irrelevant when the criminal standard necessary to convict chauvin is set at approximately 90% or so, which is roughly the level of 'reasonable doubt'

it's been possible, even more than possible, that he didn't overdose and that chauvin was culpable in some way in floyd's death the entire time, but that doesn't fucking doesn't matter

the only question that does matter is whether chauvin's culpability can be established to the requisite standard of legal proof, which, as i stated above, is an approximately 90% probability of guilt (in an ideal court with perfectly rational jurors, of course)

virtually all of the circumstances surrounding floyd's death preclude the possibility of not educing a reasonable doubt; the very fact that this went to trial at all is a scandal and shows a politicised prosecution bowing to the whims and will of the american negro lynch mob

this would never have gone to trial in australia and a magistrate would have struck it down at a commital hearing; it probably would not have gone to trial in the u.s had you reversed the races of floyd and chauvin as well
You are assuming an honest and impartial jury. While the case is supposedly beyond a reasonable doubt and the jury will be reminded of that fact it will probably come down to chauvin having to prove innocence as much as the prosecution have to show guilt.

I'm still betting on a mistrial though, there will almost certainly be someone on that jury who is going to vote guilty nomatter what and probably someone equally on the acquittal side. Everything is too polarised and even if the jury say they haven't seen everything about the case they will have seen way more than they think. I'm not even from America and I couldn't not have heard all about the evil racsit cop murdering the black guy while he cried for his mum from the media.
 
Goodness. I'm wondering who was more ticked at the "integration", the whites or blacks?

It's funny. Last month I was visiting my grandma (82) and grandpa (92) at their house while my mom (65) was there. She's the typical boomer, been married like 8 times and buys a new house every 5 years and she brought her boy friend with her this time.

We got to talking about serving in the military and stuff like that and my grandpa mentioned when he joined in the late 40's, it was still segregated. My mom's boy friend pipes up and starts talking about his service in 'Nam and how all the black people that were joining were doing so because they were given a choice of go to prison or join the army, etc. He said you really had to watch your back as all the black people basically formed gangs and if they caught a white boy by himself, they'd surround him and demand jewelry, money etc, or they might just beat the crap out of you for fun. If you didn't comply, they'd group together as witnesses and report you for "racist" stuff that they made up. So he had a few stories of stuff like that. And another one of his first day after training where in the "mess hall", the black cooks there would randomly choose not to give food to white people (his countering by demanding of the black cook to "serve him" apparently caused a huge brawl and food fight)

But his best story was.... after he left the service, sometime in the 70's, he had some mutt dog with him in his truck and while stopped at a gas station, someone took the dog from the back of the truck. Two weeks later, he's driving past a trailer park of mostly black folk, when he sees his dog tied to a tree. So he parks in the street and runs over and cuts the rope and tells the dog to get into the truck. At the same time, the front door of the trailer swings open with a black man yelling "what are you doing!?". He yells back "This is my dog and you're a thief!". The black man stands there motionless for a few seconds and yells back "You owe me $20 for feeding it for the last two weeks!" Oh, and the dog was apparently used as a "bait" dog in a fighting ring based on its now shredded ears.

Oh and he had another story, I guess in the late 50's or early 60's. The city desegregated the schools and forced the blacks into the white school. The blacks were ticked because the white school was a much farther walk away, and the old black school was actually air conditioned.
It's like putting an animal in fancy clothes, at a certain point it just seems like perverse cruelty to keep pretending.
 
You are assuming an honest and impartial jury. While the case is supposedly beyond a reasonable doubt and the jury will be reminded of that fact it will probably come down to chauvin having to prove innocence as much as the prosecution have to show guilt.

i am not, as i specified 'assuming a rational and ideal courtroom' in my post

ofc juries often do not conform to the standard required of them, and unfortunately i am bracing for this to occur in this trial as well, especially given half of those empaneled are nigger

i do think however that the relevant legal principles will be able to get through to the jury in some way, which prevents the combover quack's testimony and arguments from being a slam dunk
 
it probably would not have gone to trial in the u.s had you reversed the races of floyd and chauvin as well
Ding ding ding. There is no probably, it wouldn't have. A few reasons for this. First is that not even white people care about white junkies, and general pieces of shit. I mean, why would they? So naturally no one is really gunna be all riled up if there was a white guy in ol George's place, almost zero of them would have even stopped much less taken video. Second is the media would never let something like that blow up if it was a white MAN. Woman, of course. And, of course, if the city had not brought charges up on Chauvin, the city would have continued to burn due to high black in group preference.
 
True but this would be one boring thread if we just posted play by play of court happenings and no one did their own analysis/research.

Yeah this thread is much better when people don't know what they're talking about argue with other people who don't know what their talking about.

Much higher quality content.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: Puff
big deal that the combover fag stated that people can survive dosages of fentanyl that high, all of this is irrelevant when the criminal standard necessary to convict chauvin is set at approximately 90% or so, which is roughly the level of 'reasonable doubt'

it's been possible, even more than possible, that he didn't overdose and that chauvin was culpable in some way in floyd's death the entire time, but that doesn't fucking doesn't matter

the only question that does matter is whether chauvin's culpability can be established to the requisite standard of legal proof, which, as i stated above, is an approximately 90% probability of guilt (in an ideal court with perfectly rational jurors, of course)

virtually all of the circumstances surrounding floyd's death preclude the possibility of not educing a reasonable doubt; the very fact that this went to trial at all is a scandal and shows a politicised prosecution bowing to the whims and will of the american negro lynch mob

this would never have gone to trial in australia and a magistrate would have struck it down at a commital hearing; it probably would not have gone to trial in the u.s had you reversed the races of floyd and chauvin as well
It's a mistake to focus on the fentanyl. He had meth and fentanyl and pulmonary edema and atherosclerosis and sickle trait. The combination of all that shit is a 1st class ticket to heart attack city.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back