Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

How will Eren be stopped?


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Whats he going to say? That he hated it and potentially lose his job and disgrace his employer? Not very japanese like.
I mean he didn't need to tweet about it, there are many Japanese voice actors (and actors in general) who are quiet on social media about the work they do.

EDIT: It helps my point that he has made multiple tweets about how he essentially cried over it. Which isn't really necessary, he could've just made one tweet thanking Isayama and still look good to employers.
 
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The moment time travel was introduced in the story I instantly gave up.

Not gonna lie, even though the themes were cheap and spoonfed, I only truly enjoyed the Marley and War for Paradis arcs. I didn't give a shit about the manga's earlier arcs because I find zombie survival stories, which is what attack on titan looked like early on, very boring.

I like the aesthetic of the whole thing, and the fight of Reiner, Pieck, and Porco vs Eren was cool as shit. When his head was blown up by "War Criminal" Gabi, I was pretty excited.

Then came the whole PATHS charade, and I was confused why so many faggots liked it? It was literally time travel cancer. I despise those chapters so much, and I could not believe just how many people sucked its cock. Then the Virgin Rage Arc had underdeveloped shitty characters as the heroes, and I just got more and more disappointed. Seriously: every single alliance character was a static, meaningless mess.

Annie: What the fuck was the point of her character returning? Just so Armeeen's self-insert could stick his dick into something? No wonder Isayama drew her ass so much.

Reiner: I guess everyone is okay with him now? And his PTSD is gone? Ok.

Coomer: This character was always worthless. He should have died with Sasha.

Jean: Meh, I guess?

Falco: Cool kid, whatever.

Gabi: Whatever.

Hange: Ok.

Pieck: Literally has no arc whatsoever. She just exists for the sake of existing.

Armeeen: Just a fucking walking telephone to communicate the author's garbage, cheap ass beliefs.

Overall, I only really liked two arcs in AoT, and the ending destroyed them.
 
I'll defend the GOT ending for a couple of reasons:

1. It BTFO all the fans who kept harping "the white walkers are the real villains, the Lannisters are just a fake threat" angle fans kept harping on and on about for years

2. It saw Danny get a bad ending, with her going insane and having to be executed, in a way that reminded us that she was a villain with good publicity (Tyrion's speech about how no one cared about her bloody march to Kings Landing so long as she was killing people who kind of deserved to die at her hand)

3. Fit in with two of the central themes of the show: the red pilling of Sansa, who's abuse basically made her a better person and giving the north a leader who wasn't a trusting fool like her dad was and the second, the stealth notion that the Lanisters as the true protagonists of the TV show, with Cersei and Jamie getting a tragic death together and the unstated notion that they were quasi-justified in a lot of the bad shit they did due to the fact that Littlefinger effectively baited them into wiping out House Stark and that most of the carnage would not have happened had Ned/Cat not been repeatedly manipulated by Littlefinger* into kicking the lion until it bit the Stark family head off.
 
I'll defend the GOT ending for a couple of reasons:
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So what you’re telling me is that world genocide would’ve been averted if Eren just asked Mikasa out instead of limp-wristing the question to her? Lmao
It doesn't even make sense for him to not do it. This isn't a situation where she saw him as a brother or had someone else she loved. She literally couldn't have had a wetter pussy for Eren.
 
Seeing Isayama talk about how much he loves Game of Thrones’ last season and Breaking Band’s final episode eerily reminds me of Hideo Kojima trying to get into Hollywood after making Death Stranding.

Hollywood influence does not always make Japanese anime great. Especially when it comes to creating a manga that totally forgets what the point of defeating Titans in a battle of not trying to lose your soul to a woman who would not even think twice about you, since you’re going on a rampant genocide against your own people.
 
Don't know exactly what happened, but am I lucky to have had life get in the of finishing the first season in 2013 and never bother to pick it up again because I started to binge One Piece?
Thought the series died back then and was surprised when "The final season" came out and saw there was around 8 seasons in total including spinoffs.
 
Thought the series died back then and was surprised when "The final season" came out and saw there was around 8 seasons in total including spinoffs.
All I remember was titans killing people, then protagonist and his two friends join military to take revenge on said titans, followed by the protagonist turning into a titan. It was hyped as fuck in 2013 when I was in high school so I saw it, but didn't finish the first season. I thought it went the Fairy Tail route later on in terms of collapsing viewership once the hype had gone down, so I didn't pay much attention to it.

Fast forward a year ago and all of the sudden there's time travel shit?
 
All I remember was titans killing people, then protagonist and his two friends join military to take revenge on said titans, followed by the protagonist turning into a titan. It was hyped as fuck in 2013 when I was in high school so I saw it, but didn't finish the first season. I thought it went the Fairy Tail route later on in terms of collapsing viewership once the hype had gone down, so I didn't pay much attention to it.

Fast forward a year ago and all of the sudden there's time travel shit?

All I remember was some shit about the entirety of the planet being overrun by titans and " humanity's last stand" tm

Suddenly its "oh btw this was just a freak experiment and we are nazi germany branding people by nationality now."
and that time travel shit being their equivalent to one of the many wunderwaffe programs they had and doing everything in their power not to mention jews.
 
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Seeing Isayama talk about how much he loves Game of Thrones’ last season and Breaking Band’s final episode eerily reminds me of Hideo Kojima trying to get into Hollywood after making Death Stranding.

Hollywood influence does not always make Japanese anime great. Especially when it comes to creating a manga that totally forgets what the point of defeating Titans in a battle of not trying to lose your soul to a woman who would not even think twice about you, since you’re going on a rampant genocide against your own people.
Isayama is essentially just if Hideo Kojima found a career in writing manga instead of video games (if Isayma was more meta it would come full circle)
 
I mean he didn't need to tweet about it, there are many Japanese voice actors (and actors in general) who are quiet on social media about the work they do.

EDIT: It helps my point that he has made multiple tweets about how he essentially cried over it. Which isn't really necessary, he could've just made one tweet thanking Isayama and still look good to employers.
To be fair you would cry if your career was about to get as damaged as his will be by this ending.
 
“Dead mom and shitty dad” can be used to more or less summarize Shinji/Eren’s background, but there’s a major difference:

Shinji didn’t kill his own mom and turn his own father into a raving madman - they did that all of their own accord.

Shinji might have created a ton of problems for himself by being a lonely autist who didn’t know how to talk to people, but at least he wasn’t directly responsible for the circumstances that led to him growing up into a lonely autist who didn’t know how to talk to people.

Shinji is Schizoid-Avoidant, not Autistic.
 
How did we get to this point?

Up until about chapter 137, where Armin talk-no-jutsued Ymir and Zeke, the story mostly made sense in my opinion. The world hating Eldians made sense because they spent about two thousand years under the oppressive Eldian empire, followed by 100 years of being assaulted by Marley with titans and having what they thought was a sword of Damocles hanging over them in the form of a Rumbling from Paradis's royal family. Likewise Eren's motivation to wipe out everyone else to make sure the rest of the world couldn't wipe them out first also makes some degree of sense, as abominable as his actions were.

Now though, Eren has way too much power through time travel, as it's implied he sent Dina Fritz's titan to eat his mother, so why couldn't he just use time travel to fix everything? It doesn't look like parallel timelines are impossible in this context either, since that may be what Mikasa saw in the previous chapter. I thought maybe Eren might not have a choice in what he is doing, since the future was set in stone, which would have been ironic, since he is supposed to be all about freedom. I'm not surprised Eren is responsible for his mother's death, but I am surprised about how it happened. I thought perhaps he influenced Kruger into making sure Dina was turned into a titan, to make sure he could come into contact with a royal titan and discover the coordinate; notice how Kruger prevented Grisha from telling the soldiers she was of the royal bloodline. Eren could also have manipulated Kruger into making sure Faye died and Grisha lived on thus fueling his becoming a restorationist, becoming the Attack Titan, and having Eren. I don't think I'm the only one who has considered this; I think the "Attack on Titan iceberg" mentions Eren killing his own mother. Between this and the bird thing, it really is as if Isayama saw fans talking about these things and decided to implement them in the dumbest ways he could think of. Not to mention Worm-kun just vanishing. How could Isayama possibly have forgotten to address that? It's hard to get over that thing, which was the source of titan powers, just spontaneously vanishing from the story.

Also, as it turns out, Attack on Titan is a tragic love story apparently. It was a story about how a girl who was in love with a cruel tyrant (for some reason), served him in death and caused the plot to happen until Mikasa killed her love, thereby showing her how to move on... I guess?

Eren's genocide doesn't make any sense. If he never was going to complete it, and was willing to accept an uncertain outcome, wouldn't it have made more sense to just destroy the military resources? He may have even been able to fake his own death, so he could have his own heroes too. For that matter, why couldn't he just use the story-breaking time powers and manipulate Willy Tybur to tell the truth and protect Paradis before the story even started? This one chapter may actually raise more questions than the rest of the series combined.

I'm not convinced that this was the ending that was always planned. Isayama clearly planned the Rumbling, and the Attack titan's foresight, since Eren saw glimpses of the future in the first chapter and said that he would destroy the world while he was fighting Annie, but I think the finale may have changed for one reason or another. Didn't he saw that panel now showing Grisha holding Eren was supposed to be the last panel? I'm not sure how well that would fit as the very last panel. Granted Eren apparently saw Mikasa saying, "See you later, Eren," so who knows. Maybe this was always his plan, or maybe he made certain parts fit his new ending.

This ending feels like wasted potential. Couldn't you see an ending where he explains to his surviving friends why he did whatever he would have chosen to do and how even with the Attack titan he couldn't see everything. He could then say that he regrets those who have died including his friends, but he will do the only thing he can do, "Keep moving forward." He then takes Ymir's child sees the sun rising over the horizon, the endless vista of freedom he had seen through the Attack Titan and whispers, "You're free."

Well maybe the anime will have a different ending, but I shouldn't get my hopes up. Maybe I should just think about it this way:

Maybe the real Attack on Titan,

was the friends we made along the way.
 
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