Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

[I can't imagine]

So, there’s two kinds of bad endings. In the first kind, everything’s going mostly fine, until things take an abrupt turn into a complete dumpster fire. With endings like this, it’s usually pretty easy to “fix”, because the problem is literally with JUST the ending, and not the integrity of the story as a whole. If you really wanted to, it wouldn’t be hard to write a fix-fic of the finale and keep everything else intact. I haven’t read Domestic Girlfriend (dropped it after hearing about the ending) nor Oreimo, but from what I’ve heard, they seem to fall into this category, where it’s literally the choice of the protagonist at the end (which can be easily changed with no impact on the rest of the story) that makes the ending “bad”. Another example of this would be Darling in the FranXX, where everything’s pretty solid up until the aliens which come out of fucking nowhere. Take away the aliens and it’s easy to fix-fic a more sensible ending. The Evangelion anime would’ve 100% fallen into this category as well, except they released End of Eva a year after the anime aired, basically fix-ficcing their own wacky ending.

It's not super relevant to the main thrust of the thread, but just to say as far as Oreimo, it wasn't just the choice the protagonist made, but what happened after.

Spoiler

While obviously having a straight-up incest ending was invariably going to be controversial and hated by a large portion of the fandom, the fact that they take it to having him confess his feelings, have her reciprocate them, have them stage a FAKE WEDDING complete with kiss, then...say it's obviously not possible for them to be together and everything goes back to normal, almost as if nothing happened. So even if you were an incest shipper, you still wound up left disappointed.

Still, it's all stuff that happens in the last book, though it was pretty obvious it was going in that direction well before that.

Since it was also mentioned, my understanding is that, while Bunny Drop had a lot of hate in western communities for the ending, it was much more positively received within its intended audience of 20-something Japanese women.

 

[John Titor]

Well, I had someone give me the spoilers.
I guess Isayama fulfilled his promise to have a sort of "kill 'em all" ending and time travel since he was inspired by the Muv-Luv series.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

So I take it I shouldn't bother to watch season 2?

 

[Demonslayer1776]

So I take it I shouldn't bother to watch season 2?

Seasons 2 and 3 are a big step up over season 1 imo, its just that the ending is trash. If you can enjoy the rest of the showing knowing the ending sucks its worth watching, but its really in a spot where the ending leaves a sour taste in your mouth, which is a shame for how good it was during its peak. If the ending was even average it would be alot easier to recommend.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

Seasons 2 and 3 are a big step up over season 1 imo, its just that the ending is trash. If you can enjoy the rest of the showing knowing the ending sucks its worth watching, but its really in a spot where the ending leaves a sour taste in your mouth, which is a shame for how good it was during its peak. If the ending was even average it would be alot easier to recommend.

I really enjoyed season 1 back when it originally came out, but I was also either in middle school or very early highschool so my taste has somewhat changed. Also don't watch anime much anymore, but I've heard the action is pretty good so maybe I'll give it a shot.

 

[Demonslayer1776]

I really enjoyed season 1 back when it originally came out, but I was also either in middle school or very early highschool so my taste has somewhat changed. Also don't watch anime much anymore, but I've heard the action is pretty good so maybe I'll give it a shot.

It becomes much more character driven, which I feel is for the better, so it may be worth a shot. I honestly wasn't a fan when the first season aired, and felt it was heavily overhyped, but when I gave it another shot It really won me over during seasons 2 and 3. Its really a shame they the ending failed so hard.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I am having fun browsing /a/, they are melting down over Japanese fans enjoying the ending and screaming about Eren not being a chad along with Farmer’s existence

If you want laughs then go to /a/ for some comedy gold

 

[Alter Ego]

Lol at this piece of shit trying to pull a Chars counterattack. That scene with Eren showing his true lolcow self reminded me to how pathetic Char was during the end of the film, difference being Char is better written and he was always shown as a pitiful creep, he had a fitting ending. But somehow Eren gets to be remembered as some legendary hero despite his autism, that's just awful. It gives a dangerous message but since those who love this shit seem to be potential school shooters and rapists anyway then they got the ending they deserve.

2/10 cool concept at the beginning. Would not recommend, read Sonichu for your virgin with rage story needs instead.

That's a very interesting comparison to make. On one hand, I think Char's Counterattack is an awful mess of a movie and enjoy the whole of Attack on Titan much more. On the other, I adore the villainy of Char as I believe I have a solid grasp of what his deal is, while the villainy of Eren leaves me unenthused now that we have all the convoluted, timey-wimey details we're going to get.

For Char, what I gather is that after Zeta, he became cynical of the entire Earth Sphere and so succumbed to his most base resentment he's been harboring for over a decade: hating Amuro for the death of Lalah. Ultimately, he no longer gave a shit about the Earth, Neo Zeon, newtypes, or any of that stuff about "souls weighed down by gravity". Char was just duping and exploiting everyone with his legacy, charisma, and spacenoid-supremacist rhetoric in order to enact what he saw as his perfect revenge against Amuro. Had he actually emerged victorious, I suspect he would've just killed himself shortly thereafter. And Amuro in turn rightfully denounced Char completely, despite the bond they share as soldiers and newtypes.

For Eren, I would've been satisfied with him had his genocidal villainy been of his own volition. He's been driven by rage through the entire story, and it's a fascinating arc to watch as our celebration of his rage as heroic turns into horror when we realize that it never ends, forcing us to reckon with our hero's advancement into villainy. But then (if I'm understanding this correctly), the time-convoluted plot reveals that he didn't actually have any agency in his villainy, or perhaps anything he ever did in his life. It was all preordained by fate/Ymir that he was enslaved to. And while Eren's friends did oppose his genocide and fought him to the death, they were awfully weak in their vocal renouncement of him and ultimately appeared to regard him fondly after death.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

How do you make a messy ending worse than this? Give me one! GIVE ME ONE!

Naruto is up there.

Reminder the plot twist behind the magic eyeballs is that you turn evil because YOU LOVE TO MUCH.

 

[KEKMUHLORD]

If this is about worst endings then I have a few things to say.

In terms of recent media I think GOT is objectively the worst ending since it pissed off literally everyone to the point it is no longer discussed in the pop culture sphere (the last time I have ever heard of it discussed was it being in Space Jam 2), at least people liked the Attack on Titan's ending.

But for my personal takes in terms of endings in general these endings are probably worse for me on the top of my head:

- Rise of Skywalker
- Parasyte
- FMA 2003
- Last of Us 2
- Tokyo Ghoul

I will never understand why people hate the Tokyo Ghoul Manga ending. Was the final Arc rushed? Yeah. But, the author was destroying himself writing the manga at that point.

But most everything got wrapped up and the protagonist got a happy ending. Which he deserved after everything and is rare in Seinen.

AOT ending is much worse than that and a good majority of the ones you listed. With the exception of Rise of Skywalker and Last of Us 2.

It literally makes everything done in the manga useless after the time skip. Everything.

Plus the protagonist is reduced to an angry, bitter sociopath who did everything he did to bang his adopted sister. Including driving his father insane, killing his mom and committing Genocide.

He then failed to bang said adopted sister as well after all of that.

His death also solved nothing as they are still at war in the end.

AOT ending is definitely tied with GOT for me. Both endings are complete non-sensical shit and make the journey feel useless.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Updated the OP for hopefully the last time. If anything is incorrect, please don't tell me because I will not fix it because I honestly don't care anymore as the OP has more than made evident.

I will never understand why people hate the Tokyo Ghoul Manga ending. Was the final Arc rushed? Yeah. But, the author was destroying himself writing the manga at that point.

But most everything got wrapped up and the protagonist got a happy ending. Which he deserved after everything and is rare in Seinen.

I think that's the issue. TG gave a lot of characters happy endings, especially ones that didn't deserve it like Uta, and shit.

Another issue was that while Kaneki definitely deserved a happy ending, some people felt that all the trauma he went through made the ending really unrealistic in how positive it was. Not that traumatized people can't overcome their trauma, but the fact that the ending is so idealistic after the series being so cynical, and shit made it feel like a huge mood-whiplash that didn't fit with the rest of the series.

 

[ElAbominacion]

Updated the OP for hopefully the last time. If anything is incorrect, please don't tell me because I will not fix it because I honestly don't care anymore as the OP has more than made evident.

I think that's the issue. TG gave a lot of characters happy endings, especially ones that didn't deserve it like Uta, and shit.

Another issue was that while Kaneki definitely deserved a happy ending, some people felt that all the trauma he went through made the ending really unrealistic in how positive it was. Not that traumatized people can't overcome their trauma, but the fact that the ending is so idealistic after the series being so cynical, and shit made it feel like a huge mood-whiplash that didn't fit with the rest of the series.

Tokyo Ghoul is about existentialism. It's about saying "yeah life is shit but you gotta make the best of it." The entire reason for the OEG's writer alias was to give bright spots to the bleakness she saw in life. She found an outlet through writing: Kaneki lived an unfortunate life from the onset. One of misery, then one of neglect.

His happy ending is simply a reflection on his will to live and acceptance of his own faults and flaws. He embraces himself, for the first time in his life and is embraced in turn by his loved ones.

He took agency in his own hands and made it out. People who think TG's ending is 'bad' are nihilist fucks who don't believe that sometimes things turn out for the better because there is a way so long there is a will.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

It's not super relevant to the main thrust of the thread, but just to say as far as Oreimo, it wasn't just the choice the protagonist made, but what happened after.

Oh, its even worse than that, because it turns out:

Spoiler: Spoiler for Oreimo (Like it matters)

The entire wedding was a freaking double fake. According to official afterword, the siblings actually do continue their fully incestuous relationship in secret after the fact, even rubbing it in best girl's face, just to pour salt on the wound.

How's that for some old bullshit?

Since it was also mentioned, my understanding is that, while Bunny Drop had a lot of hate in western communities for the ending, it was much more positively received within its intended audience of 20-something Japanese women.

Actually, from what I understand, the ending was pretty hated in Japan, for all the same reasons everybody else hated it. It was so hated in fact, that BOTH ADAPTATIONS (the anime and the live action movie) completely ignored said ending, didn't even attempt to adapt anything that came after the time skip leading up to said ending, and simply came up with their own endings.

People who think TG's ending is 'bad' are nihilist fucks who don't believe that sometimes things turn out for the better because there is a way so long there is a will.

I mean, the main reason I dislike the ending is because of how obviously rushed it is. Such as bringing back Kaya Irimi and Enji Koma after everybody thought they had died at the end of the first series, just to shunt them off to the side, then kill them off again offscreen, revive them as goddamn zombies, then kill them offscreen again, in a battle that should have been a major emotional moment, making everybody in the fandom wonder what the fuck was the point of even brining them back in the first place. And that's just one example of how rushed the ending felt. But yeah, Tokyo Ghoul's ending wasn't as bad as this.

 

[Alter Ego]

Updated the OP for hopefully the last time. If anything is incorrect, please don't tell me because I will not fix it because I honestly don't care anymore as the OP has more than made evident.

Psst, Connie's mom is stated to be back to normal now and under the protection of Historia.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

Psst, Connie's mom is stated to be back to normal now and under the protection of Historia.

...okay, I fixed that because I just remembered that while the SC sat on their asses for a week while Eren's genociding everyone brushing Connie's mom's teeth was one of the things they did.

 

[kūhaku]

Unironically think there’s some merit to theories of the entire ending being changed or different editors being the problem. Seriously, go reread chapters 120-122 and try to tell me with a straight face that this is the same Eren as in 139. His personality, resolve, motives, all gone. It seems like either right at the rumbling, or some of the way through it, the ending was changed. Either that, or he planned 139 chapters, realized he couldn’t finish the story in that long, and had to stick with that predefined chapter limit regardless. Looking at Eren in 139 it’s like we are seeing some satirical joke representation of him and his personality and motives, written by someone trolling. A part of me actually hopes the anime stays faithful and adapts this dogshit chapter just so Isayama gets legions more hate and this is a (hopeful) testament against butchering endings to future stories

Image from /a/ displaying what I’m talking about

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

Well, at least Levi gets to just live his life. The scenes with him were my favorite in this chapter, mainly cause Isayama didn't fuck with his character and they're the only scenes where I was like: "oh this actually makes sense and isn't stupid".

 

[RembrandtCourage]

Oh, its even worse than that, because it turns out:

Spoiler: Spoiler for Oreimo (Like it matters)

The entire wedding was a freaking double fake. According to official afterword, the siblings actually do continue their fully incestuous relationship in secret after the fact, even rubbing it in best girl's face, just to pour salt on the wound.

Wait. Didn't they go for a last minute copout and not even have them be related by blood but by some arbitrary bullshit where it doesn't even matter except for the most pearl clutching of idiots/fetishists?

Staying on topic however I find it funny that the usual idiots who were screaming about MUH NAZI IMAGERY are still consooming it to the end. But it's only a matter of time until that old arguement is doubtlessly rehashed unless it was put to rest? I don't keep up with anime in general.

 

[Uncle June]

Well, at least Levi gets to just live his life. The scenes with him were my favorite in this chapter, mainly cause Isayama didn't fuck with his character and they're the only scenes where I was like: "oh this actually makes sense and isn't stupid".

Yeah but he was with the Eldian peace party that went to negotiate truce (right after the Eldians caused a worldwide genocide) so he's probably going to get shot as soon as he walks through the doors.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I found some memes relating to the final chapter that made me laugh