I've been ruminating on the rushed vaccines, and I'm just wondering how the vaxx'd population is going to react once the cat comes out of the bag. idk how it'll happen (too many boomer bodies piling up, or FDA calls for emergency recall), who fucking knows. That's kind of the scary part imo, there's no doubt that people are going to become unhinged from this shit, especially since literally no one on this Earth knows what the long term side-effects will be.
Maybe they'll quietly recall the vaccine to cause less panic?
As of Thursday, approximately 75,500 Marines have received vaccines, including fully vaccinated and partially vaccinated service men and women. About 48,000 Marines have chosen not to receive vaccines, for a declination rate of 38.9%.
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The declination rate at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina, one of the prominent Marine Corps bases, was far higher, at 57%, according to another set of data provided to CNN.
Johnson & Johnson's coronavirus vaccine is facing a double dose of problems. Georgia is the third state to temporarily shut down a vaccine site after eight people suffered adverse reactions to the shot.
Earlier this week, 18 people in North Carolina reported side effects, while 11 people in Colorado reacted to the shot with symptoms ranging from dizziness, nausea and fainting.
I've met a few that refuse to get the vaccine. It isn't my task in life to convince them to do so or lecture them on what you'd think an adult should probably be aware of.
I already know one stupid bitch that laughed it off, got it, gave it to her father who now after some loving clots from the virus is bed bound until he finishes dying. So there is some satisfaction in that I guess.
In 5 years from now when some really nasty variants are trolling around re-infecting those that don't keep up with the inevitable variant booster shots, they probably will change their tune.
Then again perhaps all of us fools have had the vaccine will be dead in 6 months from unexpected side-effect. Who knows. And really, who cares.
I've met a few that refuse to get the vaccine. It isn't my task in life to convince them to do so or lecture them on what you'd think an adult should probably be aware of.
I already know one stupid bitch that laughed it off, got it, gave it to her father who now after some loving clots from the virus is bed bound until he finishes dying. So there is some satisfaction in that I guess.
In 5 years from now when some really nasty variants are trolling around re-infecting those that don't keep up with the inevitable variant booster shots, they probably will change their tune.
Then again perhaps all of us fools have had the vaccine will be dead in 6 months from unexpected side-effect. Who knows. And really, who cares.
I've been ruminating on the rushed vaccines, and I'm just wondering how the vaxx'd population is going to react once the cat comes out of the bag. idk how it'll happen (too many boomer bodies piling up, or FDA calls for emergency recall), who fucking knows. That's kind of the scary part imo, there's no doubt that people are going to become unhinged from this shit, especially since literally no one on this Earth knows what the long term side-effects will be.
Maybe they'll quietly recall the vaccine to cause less panic?
well it is important to remember there are different kinds of vaccines.
The ones they dreamed up here in the USA very well could have side effects - most likely from the delivery ingredients rather than the RNA. The side effects of the delivery system ingredients will be the likely culprit if if does go badly. However the vaccines produced from the dead virus (classic vaccine production) which was done in some other countries is almost a zero chance of any side effects worthy of note.
If I had a choice (and I didn't) of the china vaccine (dead virus, classic production) I would have taken it rather than the RNA one I got here in the USA.
In 5 years from now when some really nasty variants are trolling around re-infecting those that don't keep up with the inevitable variant booster shots, they probably will change their tune.
Not trying to get into a slap fight with this question, but what makes you believe that in half a decade the variants will be even that big of a deal to most people? I mean to say, like the regular flu, which many people don't get the shot for, why do you believe that this will be anything special?
Not trying to get into a slap fight with this question, but what makes you believe that in half a decade the variants will be even that big of a deal to most people? I mean to say, like the regular flu, which many people don't get the shot for, why do you believe that this will be anything special?
Most viruses that are trouble have a little problem - they mutate into less and harsher strains. Now all throughout the last 500,000 years when a virus mutated into a harsher one it killed quickly or killed enough that the virus ended up isolating itself and dying out. However, with modern societies the virus no longer has this problem. 200 years ago a village 20 miles away would today be the same as 12,000 miles away, but with large cities and transport hubs this is no longer a problem.
Of all the millions of lethal viruses to humans that have come and gone, the only thing that stopped them was burning out. That's no longer a factor for a virus. It is like Ebola, if it was airborne I swear to god the UN itself would approve sealing off the country where it was an literally authorizing the use of flame throwers against anyone trying to leave.
So Covid has all the characteristics of a virus that can mutate and infect easily, and it has an endless supply chain of humans.
It is much more lethal than the Flu and while it is true once it burns through the population of Earth it will leave behind a populace far less susceptible to it, alas this will not be what happens because Covid does things to the body that the Flu and other viruses do not. So each mutation is essentially targeting new parts of the body. If anything the variants are showing us that given the endless laboratory of Earths 8 billion, it is developing more lethal.
Eventually the mutations will be so different from the ones used by the vaccines that the body will not recognize them - and worse, possible but not assured, if we over vaccinate we may in fact end up blinding our bodies to the eventual mutations meaning our bodies wont try to fight it like they should.
Covid is not the same as what weve seen before with viruses. Its a cute little fucker. Also Covid is leaving behind millions with permanent effects that will likely cause them to succumb to variants down the road. The flu doesn't do that.
Highly doubtful, unless you work at a hospital or on some sort of field team. The flu vaccine only lasts a couple months in quite a lot of people, and they still only suggest taking it once per year. If you want to be 100% uninfectable, I guess you could take it every 6 months, but even without that transmission should be massively reduced.
Edit: even with that, I mean a single booster every six months, so only two per year after the first year. Not great, but only double the anthrax vaccine.
It is much more lethal than the Flu and while it is true once it burns through the population of Earth it will leave behind a populace far less susceptible to it, alas this will not be what happens because Covid does things to the body that the Flu and other viruses do not. So each mutation is essentially targeting new parts of the body. If anything the variants are showing us that given the endless laboratory of Earths 8 billion, it is developing more lethal.
variants down the road. The flu doesn't do that.
In what way has covid been shown to be "much more lethal" than the flu? The numbers are elevated, but in a way that could be said it's more due to our hyperfocus on tracking ever aspect of it than anything else. It's not uber-ebola.
Most viruses that are trouble have a little problem - they mutate into less and harsher strains. Now all throughout the last 500,000 years when a virus mutated into a harsher one it killed quickly or killed enough that the virus ended up isolating itself and dying out. However, with modern societies the virus no longer has this problem. 200 years ago a village 20 miles away would today be the same as 12,000 miles away, but with large cities and transport hubs this is no longer a problem.
Of all the millions of lethal viruses to humans that have come and gone, the only thing that stopped them was burning out. That's no longer a factor for a virus. It is like Ebola, if it was airborne I swear to god the UN itself would approve sealing off the country where it was an literally authorizing the use of flame throwers against anyone trying to leave.
So Covid has all the characteristics of a virus that can mutate and infect easily, and it has an endless supply chain of humans.
It is much more lethal than the Flu and while it is true once it burns through the population of Earth it will leave behind a populace far less susceptible to it, alas this will not be what happens because Covid does things to the body that the Flu and other viruses do not. So each mutation is essentially targeting new parts of the body. If anything the variants are showing us that given the endless laboratory of Earths 8 billion, it is developing more lethal.
Eventually the mutations will be so different from the ones used by the vaccines that the body will not recognize them - and worse, possible but not assured, if we over vaccinate we may in fact end up blinding our bodies to the eventual mutations meaning our bodies wont try to fight it like they should.
Covid is not the same as what weve seen before with viruses. Its a cute little fucker. Also Covid is leaving behind millions with permanent effects that will likely cause them to succumb to variants down the road. The flu doesn't do that.
What was the Irish Woke Left's response? B-b-but muh refugees/direct provisioners have it worse! That's how brainwashed and neutered people have become.
Had a lovely conversation with a coworker who got his jab yesterday and was complaining about not being able to use his arm fully. Basically we were talking about how effective the vax was before needing a booster (my opening line was that the damn thing is under emergency use and technically hasn't been cleared by the FDA yet).
If you are familiar with Carl from Jonny Bravo, congratulations you now know my coworker (except he's in his mid 40s and a permanent bachelor).
Women are so fucking stupid. For starters, for a very long time, several types of birth control medicine have been linked to breast cancer. Secondly, I think it is simply unnatural to be taking ANYTHING that prevents you from getting your period, especially if your reasoning is for convenience. That is insanity! I get it: Periods suck, but if you have normal ones and no pre-existing health conditions, then they won't kill you, and they are just something that your body does. Deal with it. It just comes with the territory of being a woman, plain and simple. I thought that women were stronger than this? lol.
And big pharma makes big bucks peddling these various birth controls. I speak from experience: I have yet to meet an OBGYN that hasn't tried to prescribe me birth control. Every. Single. Damn. Time. It is literally their solution for anything and everything, and even if you are just going in for a regular checkup and have zero problems, they will still try to push it on you. It's ridiculous. Women have basically been programmed to believe that they need it even if they don't ... And now they're being programmed to believe that their body going through this crazy shit after the vaccine is totally normal and not at all anything to worry about (even though the vaccine does NOT have the FDA approval-- nothing to see here, folks!).
Anyway, especially after reading this, there is no way in hell that I'm going to take chances with my reproductive health like this. For all we know, this could cause lasting bleeding disorders. Oh hell no! I will happily take COVID over any of this.
And some of these people on Twitter, painting people like anti-vaxxers all across the board are a special kind of asshole. I bet that they're even ghoulish enough to believe that if the vaccine causes miscarriages, then it's no big deal because fetuses and embryos "aren't people" to begin with. These people can sincerely go fuck themselves and burn in hell.
While some are legitimately crazy and still believe all the doom and gloom, I think a lot of them just don't want to admit they got it wrong. After a year of blathering about how bad the coof is, they can't just reverse course and say "whoops I guess not haha my bad." People are really bad about admitting they're wrong, and when they've been spouting the same shit for so long, it's all that much harder for them to finally come to terms with their mistake.
I was chatting with my online friend group last night, and one of them said that his employer was going to stop remote work but also force everyone to get vaccinated to come back in, vaccine passports and all. He had concerns about getting the jab, but then along comes our most I Fucking Love Science™ member bitching about anti-vaxxers and practically yelling at him to get the shot. It was literally impossible for him to admit that there could be legitimate problems with the vaccines that we couldn't possibly know about yet, that the coof isn't actually that big a deal (even going so far as to bring up the long COVID thing long after that's been debunked), and that there's not really a good reason to get jabbed if you're young and healthy. Just constantly going around in circles for like an hour, where he just couldn't fucking admit once that the Science™ could have it wrong.
In some of these people's minds, I think they don't actually know that eradicating an illness is virtually impossible, or at least downright impractical for most. I mean, we've eradicated I think two diseases altogether in the history of the world, but smallpox is way different from the coof (and since we still have laboratory samples, it could potentially return one day). They seriously think that our Science™ is so good now that disease is a thing of the past, when that couldn't be farther from the truth.
Honestly, just let 'em continue to stew in their resentment of everyone going back to living their lives normally. If they want to live the rest of their lives muzzled up and homebound, more power to 'em. As for me, life's good in a free state.
I usually ask the I Fucking Love Science people to sign a contract so they are the initial party bear all liability in the chance of something going wrong.
There are places that are open with no restrictions and no masks. What's stopping you from moving to a place where your rights and well-being are respected?
You get one shot at life. Don't waste too much of it hoping where you live will suddenly decide to stop being crazy.
In 5 years from now when some really nasty variants are trolling around re-infecting those that don't keep up with the inevitable variant booster shots, they probably will change their tune.
And what makes you think this round of viral generations aren't the nastier of the variants?
What makes you think viral evolution is suddenly going to reverse course just because tv man told you?
It is much more lethal than the Flu and while it is true once it burns through the population of Earth it will leave behind a populace far less susceptible to it, alas this will not be what happens because Covid does things to the body that the Flu and other viruses do not.
"ItS OnLy yOuR ChOiCe wHeN iT dOsEnT aFFeKt oThErS!11"
I made a comment to same effect a page or two ago, but basically the argument is that "we live in a society ( ), therefore you cant do X if it might/could maybe butterfly effect into harming others", so supposedly killing your own kid doesn't harm others but not getting vaccinated does.
(dont hate me, I don't agree, I'm just repeating it)
), therefore you cant do X if it might/could maybe butterfly effect into harming others", so supposedly killing your own kid doesn't harm others but not getting vaccinated does.