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Like or hate Tevin I find it funny how he did a 24 hr stream and got 937 subs (alot were gifted but dsp subs are mostly gifted too). This shows how sad Mr. 12 Year Legacy Man can barely reach 700 subs a month, and Tevin reached over 900 subs just doing a 24 hr stream. Obviously Tevin might not hold those 900 subs month to month but how is, quoting Dave here, a criminal who leeches off him doing better than pro streamer Phil. I wonder if Phil saw that his rival Tevin reached the sub goal before him and is ranting to his wife on their anniversary how shitty this is and not fair, he did everything right and nothing wrong. View attachment 2079453

This is why Tevin is called "the Anti-Phil" in the book of Phil.
 
I watched him for an hour earlier and he isn't really that bad on his own; Without Phil as a backdrop. He actually played a shit ton of games, too. Props to him, I guess.
tevin is usually pretty watchable, only time he's not is when he's playing cuisine royale or overwatch, i think he even plays fortnite sometimes lmao
 
I mean you have a point but I bet it's impossible to watch Phil semi regularly without being the victim of a free sub during the wheelchairs sub bombs.
Even just entering his stream once you can be stuck with a gifted sub, I've received at least 4 gifted subs from different channels that I've either watched an old video or popped into the stream for 10 minutes. If gifted subs were taken away you probably wouldn't see very many sub badges, less if they took away Amazon Prime subs.
this, i've had subs on like 3 accounts after opening the stream for like 1 minute (if i open twitch and he's live i click for a minute to see what he's playing then leave, and end up with gifted subs) i doubt this is primarily the case but it's definitely possible

There's an option under settings to not receive gifted subs from channels you don't follow. Otherwise, you should be able to reject the gifted sub.

Isn't DSP's baseline of "organic growth" like 500 subs?

When I was tracking it, it was usually around 420-450, though it's hard to tell because he would still get like 50-100 subs gifted in a given month.
 
There's an option under settings to not receive gifted subs from channels you don't follow. Otherwise, you should be able to reject the gifted sub.



When I was tracking it, it was usually around 420-450, though it's hard to tell because he would still get like 50-100 subs gifted in a given month.

The funny thing is that he still touts this as "organic growth" when people like OIC drop sub bombs. And then the next month these subs expire and people don't resub. Gee, I wonder why, Phil?
 
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The funny thing is that he still touts this as "organic growth" when people like OIC drop sub bombs. And then the next month these subs expire and people don't resub. Gee, I wonder why, Phil?
He's saying orgasmic growth because it gives him a chubby.
 
This is why Tevin is called "the Anti-Phil" in the book of Phil.

The funny thing about Tevin is the fact that for all intent and purposes he was one of the more reasonable detractors; he genuinely wanted to see Phil do better. Phil with his autism and gout built the almighty(praise be)to be some evil boogeyman only to get back on Twitch, leave the vortex and get partnered very quickly. Making Tevin some huge final end boss turned out to be stupid because since Tevin is now doing his own thing Phil needs a new nemesis and apparently Kiwifarms is the new foe.

This is apparently stupid since:
1. This part of the forum doesn't give Phil anything kind of lead way with his nonsense.
2. We do the things Phil really hates: record, clip, archive and laugh at his bullshit.

Edit: let's not forget that according to Phil we are not called "detractors" anymore...whatever the fuck that means.

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I've seen some talk about Phil's numbers & analytics today, here are two good sites if you're into this kind of stuff like me.

The sub numbers on TwitchTracker don't seem too accurate though, but everything else seems spot on. It gets really interesting when you look at what games he plays / has played and how many views they each get.

Phil's viewer count during the past 7 days
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Just looking at the shapes of these graphs, you can see when Phil takes his break on the day stream. The view count takes a sharp drop.

Here's when the vest streak ended during Paper Mario, and the next stream when he showed off those "big changes".
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Notice the bump in viewership towards the end of Paper Mario when it looked like the streak was going to end. That happened every stream during the vest streak. People show up just to watch the probable end of the streak, then when a whale hits the tips goal, the view count would plummet back down.

Phil's right, this looks like a channel that's growing...
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I've seen some talk about Phil's numbers & analytics today, here are two good sites if you're into this kind of stuff like me.

The sub numbers on TwitchTracker don't seem too accurate though, but everything else seems spot on. It gets really interesting when you look at what games he plays / has played and how many views they each get.

Phil's viewer count during the past 7 days
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Just looking at the shapes of these graphs, you can see when Phil takes his break on the day stream. The view count takes a sharp drop.

Here's when the vest streak ended during Paper Mario, and the next stream when he showed off those "big changes".
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Notice the bump in viewership towards the end of Paper Mario when it looked like the streak was going to end. That happened every stream during the vest streak. People show up just to watch the probable end of the streak, then when a whale hits the tips goal, the view count would plummet back down.

Phil's right, this looks like a channel that's growing...
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its nice to see some data like this about phil again. sometimes it feels like we stray from the path of why were all here
too bad the data hasnt been kept up through the 10+ yr legacy to see how big he used to be so where he is now. to where hell end up being xD
 
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its nice to see some data like this about phil again. sometimes it feels like we stray from the path of why were all here
too bad the data hasnt been kept up through the 10+ yr legacy to see how big he used to be so where he is now. to where hell end up being xD
The data is always interesting but speaking for myself I don't need pie charts to tell when someone is a laughingstock.
 
You really think 400 subs are real? Even if we include all the pants-shitting "ironic detractors" in that figure, it seems really high.
That number's legit. Remember that there are subs that don't show up in chat (typically the auto-resubs, not Amazon Prime). It was consistently around 420 non-gifted subs when I was tracking it.
 
The funny thing about Tevin is the fact that for all intent and purposes he was one of the more reasonable detractors; he genuinely wanted to see Phil do better. Phil with his autism and gout built the almighty(praise be)to be some evil boogeyman only to get back on Twitch, leave the vortex and get partnered very quickly. Making Tevin some huge final end boss turned out to be stupid because since Tevin is now doing his own thing Phil needs a new nemesis and apparently Kiwifarms is the new foe.

I pretty much only watched Detractor Era Tevin for my detractor content fix in the beginning of my journey, and he was my foray into the snortex, and I never found him to be malicious or self-serving as Dave tried his damnedest to make him out to be, and by extension his pignotized wheelchairs. He pretty much just restreamed him and made fun of him because DSP is someone who deserves to be mocked and ridiculed. For as bad as Tevin could have treated Phil, he never stooped to this level of dastardliness that Phil tried to conjure up in his tinfoil skull.

He never sent people directly to fuck with Dave, autonomous human beings take it upon their autonomous selves to do what they please, just because they were a part of Tevin's community doesn't mean he played a part. Just like how if someone from KF does some stupid shit like pozload my neghole, that doesn't mean null is responsible. All I remember him saying is shit along the lines of "if you're stupid enough to donate to him and you want to get your money's worth, say some stupid joke along the lines of *joke here*". He's even extended multiple olive branches to try and give Phil ideas on how to improve the stream and his revenue.

Let me not big up Tevin too much though, a certain anti gel-eater that frequents these parts might have an aneurysm that someone is talking positively of the black guy.
 
i've been watching the fat boy for pretty much longer than anyone else here. let me assure you. phil will always need a villain.

and if he can not find one, he will make one up.
The fact that he has to make out Kiwi Farms as this huge antagonist is proof of how desperate for drama he is. All this site does is catalog the things he does, it actively discourages any plans of taking him down. It may have encouraged people to mess with him regarding WWE Champions, but that's his fault, not ours. He only ever brings up KF now because he has literally nothing to blame on what's holding him back now.
Even though he's already slandered us as a den of MAGA-hatted drooling retarrrs, he still makes us out to be some prevailing threat to his life, which is pretty inconsistent if you ask me. He can't point fingers at restreamers and people who make TIHYDPs anymore, since he's officially stated they aren't a problem to him.
But he needs SOME reason for why his streams are so lackluster. He can't admit to how lazy he is, so fuck it, whine about the only place that's still fucking talking about him at length. He also can't bring up Twitter, because then he'd be acknowledging all the criticism he's ignoring.
 
The fact that he has to make out Kiwi Farms as this huge antagonist is proof of how desperate for drama he is. All this site does is catalog the things he does, it actively discourages any plans of taking him down. It may have encouraged people to mess with him regarding WWE Champions, but that's his fault, not ours. He only ever brings up KF now because he has literally nothing to blame on what's holding him back now.
Even though he's already slandered us as a den of MAGA-hatted drooling retarrrs, he still makes us out to be some prevailing threat to his life, which is pretty inconsistent if you ask me. He can't point fingers at restreamers and people who make TIHYDPs anymore, since he's officially stated they aren't a problem to him.
But he needs SOME reason for why his streams are so lackluster. He can't admit to how lazy he is, so fuck it, whine about the only place that's still fucking talking about him at length. He also can't bring up Twitter, because then he'd be acknowledging all the criticism he's ignoring.
What gets me is when he starts saying we are having crazy conspiracies, all because we didn't monitor or control ourselves enough about a fake escort. We all know what came of that, but he still tries to hold that over our head.

A lot of discussion and speculation after that has been a bit constrained after that (I feel). Even with a 99% he's throwing his money into a blackhole gacha game, he still wants to call us crazies. Well, Phil, we are going based off your actions, habits, and what you are telling us. If you are purposely lying to throw us off your trail, or protect your family as you call it, then you're antithesis of everything you tell your audience on how you're an honest guy.

We aren't shitting up your chat, we aren't causing drama in your dead forum, we aren't tweeting you because well, you block most people who ask questions. Everyone here for the most part has a nice (lol) place to discuss every sort of action that goes on and it must suck that you cannot block it out for everyone in your nazi containment safe bubble you made yourself.

For some reason during Fall Guys, he had to say some crap about these trolls are pulling some sort of OPs to get into his games. Doesn't that sound crazy to you? Part of the game is "trolling" others to win (he ruined that word for me, what the fuck). Reality is he just needs to be a victim to something so he can continue being an "underdog" who can prevail over this one, when it's all the doing of your fans chucking money to you. I don't see how you can be an underdog for this long when we have seen your earnings.
 
im just saying, he's been doing this even before the days of DSPCultleader.

From John and Howard, to the dude that built his PC, to the original tax guy, and the list goes on, if you even SLIGHTLY inconvenience Phil, you are now the bad guy. Fully agree with your point. He is that fucker and he will never not be that fucker. You could give him the best advice in the world, he will proceed to shit on your for it, and then will blame you whenever the best advice you gave him turned out to be the best advice for him and he missed his opportunity.
 
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