New depictions of ancient hominids aim to overcome artistic biases - Scientists think blacks look less evolved and want to stop everyone else noticing too

Edit I'm adding the article now, before you fags start moaning.


Tina Hesman Saey

APRIL 5, 2021 AT 9:00

Depictions of extinct human ancestors and cousins are often more art than scienc

Take, for example, two reconstructions of the Taung child, a 2.8-million-year-old Australopithecus africanus skull discovered in South Africa in 1924. One version, made using a sculptor’s intuition, appears more apelike. A second version, made while working alongside a scientist, appears more humanlik

Now, the researchers that produced the dueling images are attempting to remove some of this subjectivity by introducing standards that may give more accurate and reproducible portraits of species known only from fossilized bone. The team points out some of the flaws in facial reconstructions of ancient hominids — and the social and ethical implications misleading portraits may have — in a report published February 26 in Frontiers in Ecology and evolution.


Getting the depictions right matters, says Rui Diogo, a biological anthropologist at Howard University in Washington, D.C. When museumgoers see artists’ renditions of Neandertals or extinct hominids, visitors often don’t realize how much bias creeps into the work. “They think it is reality,” he says. And that can skew people’s views and reinforce existing prejudices of present-day people.

For instance, reconstructions of multiple extinct hominids in the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History in Washington, D.C., portray skin getting lighter and lighter in color as species became more and more bipedal. “But there is zero evidence to say the skin was whiter,” Diogo says. Such a depiction might give the mistaken impression that people with lighter skin are more evolved.

Artists’ depictions can also give erroneous views of human evolution and extinct species’ intelligence and behavior, says Diogo’s coauthor Ryan Campbell, an anatomical scientist and physical anthropologist at the University of Adelaide in Australia. For instance, Neandertals are often portrayed as having matted, dirty hair. “It’s as if there is a bias toward portraying our ancestors as if they were stupid and didn’t have hygiene,” he says.

But animals of all kinds groom themselves, and there is no reason to think that Neandertals or other extinct hominids were any different. In fact, presenting reconstructions without hair might be more accurate, says Campbell. Hair is usually not preserved in fossils and DNA data from bones may hint at hair color, but don’t reveal grooming habits


Reconstructing hair is not even informed speculation,” Campbell says. “It’s imaginary speculation.”

Scientists and artists often work together to produce reconstructions, but the choices they make may be driven more by whim than science, the researchers contend. By studying muscles in the great apes and other nonhuman primates, Diogo and colleagues have constructed reference databases that scientists might use in reconstructing faces from fossils. Even then, whether a sculptor chooses chimpanzee or human muscles as their starting point can produce very different outcomes.

“The reconstructions of the past, most of them did not have a scientific basis,” Diogo says. “Our goal is to change the methods and to change the biases” to give a more accurate view of human evolution.

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Getting the depictions right matters, says Rui Diogo, a biological anthropologist at Howard University in Washington, D.C. When museumgoers see artists’ renditions of Neandertals or extinct hominids, visitors often don’t realize how much bias creeps into the work.

Because if the layman knew how fucking duplicitous and out-right evil at times "scientists" couod be; they'd have no reason to believe the shit that gets pushed. You want to talk fossils and shit? Tell the average human about the Bone Wars, and how two fucking lunatics were in such a heated competition, they'd openly sabotage/destroy the fossils and work of the other. This is your modern "scientist." Not someone with an actual yearning to know truth or unlock secrets, it's to chase validation and lord over plebs who don't know any better.
 
Take, for example, two reconstructions of the Taung child, a 2.8-million-year-old Australopithecus africanus skull discovered in South Africa in 1924. One version, made using a sculptor’s intuition, appears more apelike. A second version, made while working alongside a scientist, appears more humanlike
Those both look pretty apelike to me... does that make me a racist?
 
Scientists are fucking with normal monkey and human bones to meme people into evolution, all these weird "hominids" are not real, and neither are the dinosaurs bones which are all made of plaster to create a fake scarcity on the oil market
When I see takes like this I remember everyone you're against is in power and feel a fleeting euphoria.
 
Except a lot of these ancient humans being reconstructed were light skinned. Any Homo Hidelbergensis, Homo Neanderthalensis, or even some Denisovans would have been lighter skinned, as well as any admixtures with Homo Sapiens like Cromagnon. We have the DNA from Neanderthals and early Sapiens to show it.
Researchers agree that our early australopithecine ancestors in Africa probably had light skin beneath hairy pelts.
“If you shave a chimpanzee, its skin is light,” says evolutionary geneticist Sarah Tishkoff of the University of Pennsylvania, the lead author of the new study. “If you have body hair, you don’t need dark skin to protect you from ultraviolet [UV] radiation.”
In fact, most DNA research shows very dark skin was a fairly late product of evolution, as all early men migrating out of Africa were already equipped with the genes for light skin, but not all had the genes for very dark skin. So likely they looked pretty Mediterranean by complexion in most cases.
 
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"Our goal is to change the methods and to change the biases” to give a more accurate view of human evolution.
bias
[ˈbīəs]
NOUN
prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair.
"there was evidence of bias against foreign applicants" · [more]
synonyms:
prejudice · partiality · partisanship · [more]

accuracy
[ˈakyərəsē]
NOUN
the quality or state of being correct or precise.
"we have confidence in the accuracy of the statistics" · [more]
synonyms:
correctness · precision · exactness · rightness · perfection · validity 

Is it too much to ask for "professionals" to understand the words they're using? I don't think this is a situation where he used imprecise language; these tools honestly believe that their use of irreconcilable concepts is right and scientific. The fact is all of these reconstructions are best guesses at most with a fair amount of artistic license thrown in. The idea is to give a representation of what they could have looked like in a broader sense, not what any given pile of bones actually looked like.
 
Is it too much to ask for "professionals" to understand the words they're using? I don't think this is a situation where he used imprecise language; these tools honestly believe that their use of irreconcilable concepts is right and scientific. The fact is all of these reconstructions are best guesses at most with a fair amount of artistic license thrown in. The idea is to give a representation of what they could have looked like in a broader sense, not what any given pile of bones actually looked like.
The wonderful (terrifying?) thing about language is how flexible and open to interpretation it is. If a word is used incorrectly more often than it is used correctly, the definition changes and it no longer means what it once did.

This leaves us in the wonderful situation we now find ourselves in where older texts no longer mean what they originally did when they were written based solely on the fact that the words have shifted away from what the authors intended to use them to mean, leaving us with a history that actively shifts even without editing the texts themselves!
 
There have been a lot of positive Neanderthal articles in recent years. And wasn't there a study that claimed many of them were ginger due to having certain genes? Their skin probably varied due to where they lived just like everyone else. But in the end they mixed with what would become modern day whypipo and not blacks.

It's mainly blacks who think Neanderthals were just stupid club weilding cave dwellers when modern research shows that was not the case. They are always calling white people Neanderthal cavemen. They probably just jelly because Neanderthals get so much press and study.

So we've reached a point where science is intentionally depicting hominids as less apelike because it might hurt black feelings.*sigh*

Sculptor's intuition? Have you seen the recreations of unidentified murder victims that have actually solved cases and identified the victims because the likeness was so good? Are the scientists working with the same kind of sculptors who assist in crime investigations? Forensic artists? Because there are very precise methods used and it's pretty amazing what these people can do.

If we have a pretty good idea what dinosaurs and prehistoric mammals and birds looked like by using trusted reconstruction methods then the same should apply to hominids. Those hominids are older than Neanderthals and there are less complete skulls and bones to work with. So when we get a good skull it's highly studied.

Except a lot of these ancient humans being reconstructed were light skinned. Any Homo Hidelbergensis, Homo Neanderthalensis, or even some Denisovans would have been lighter skinned, as well as any admixtures with Homo Sapiens like Cromagnon. We have the DNA from Neanderthals and early Sapiens to show it.
Researchers agree that our early australopithecine ancestors in Africa probably had light skin beneath hairy pelts.
“If you shave a chimpanzee, its skin is light,” says evolutionary geneticist Sarah Tishkoff of the University of Pennsylvania, the lead author of the new study. “If you have body hair, you don’t need dark skin to protect you from ultraviolet [UV] radiation.”
In fact, most DNA research shows very dark skin was a fairly late product of evolution, as all early men migrating out of Africa were already equipped with the genes for light skin, but not all had the genes for very dark skin. So likely they looked pretty Mediterranean by complexion in most cases.

Well remember, according to the current year, Mediterranean skin tones are POC and you better cast that olive skinned character as black or brown. The Hunger Games temper tantrums over this were pretty lulzy. I have an olive undertone so if they made a movie about me I guess I would be played by an ebony queen. :lol:

Anyway, your points are gonna fall on deaf ears because science gotta be changed to protect feelings. We've reached a point where feels>truth and we will all suffer the consequences. If this ushers in a new age of "hominids were beautiful African kangs and kweens who looked just like Cleopatra and Tutankhamen" then future anthropology students will be laughing at a whole period of #woke junk science passed off as fact to protect feelings and how it impeded research for decades. Not that we aren't already doing that now.

Stop this planet. I want to get off. (:_(
 
Anything that makes ancient hominids look like monke is racist.

Good to know.

I wonder how long before the teaching of evolution is attacked by the left for being not PC and making students think that people now are more evolved than proto-humans a million years ago.

Crawling out of the ocean was a mistake.
 
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