Community Lolitas - 1000% more backstabbing than you'd expect.

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Lolita is basically a fashion sub-culture that enjoys Victoria-era clothing, but there are many different kinds like goth loli, classic loli, sweet loli, etc. Simple right? An innocent and sweet fandom dedicated to dressing beautifully.

Except it's created one of the biggest backstabbing, cut-throat cultures I have ever seen in my life, and the amount of lolcow material is incredible.

Anyone who's even slightly involved or knowledgeable about Lolita knows about a LiveJournal called "Behind the Bows". People submit images with text on them anonymously, which get posted anonymously - and then people comment on them (often anonymously) in the comments. What horrible content could fashion lovers possibly create?

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Every single one of the currently #186 and counting Secret Posts that are posted weekly involve multiple callouts with blatantly recognisable features, very brutal and nasty comments - and a lot of the time it's very obvious whoever posted the photo was from that person's community or was a friend - creating a culture of paranoia.

Even some of the legitimately nicest girls in the Lolita community check this blog religiously, knowing that their picture could show up any time and they become a laughingstock. The Lolita community is big enough to have a huge following, but also small enough it's quite easy to figure out who someone is based on their photo and comments made on it.

Also, the trends are constantly changing - currently there's a huge backlash against Muslim lolita dressers, resulting in images like this being posted:

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Lolita even has its own scandals - Mr Yan, owner of Bodyline, invites underage young models to Japan to model for his brand (basically the cheapest brand there is), while creeping on them and hinting at marriage. If you know Venus Angelic, she already has an ED page which briefly covers the saga.

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/index.php?title=Venusangelic&diff=prev&oldid=607933

Lolita culture is hard to describe to someone who hasn't really looked into it, like the hatred of "non-burando" (off-brand Lolita clothing), which brands rank higher than others, etc etc. What we could call "w-eens" or "cool guys", they call "itas" (from the last half of "lolita") to refer to try-hards, often weebs coming into the Lolita fandom with cheap cosplay shit, etc.

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The reason why I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY is because due to the aesthetic of being pretty, classy, refined women, you will NEVER hear these girls say this shit or drag those bitches as hard as they do anonymously. So time and time again, the comments (with names attached) will be soothing, positive, nice, friendly etc - while the images and anonymous comments (which are most of them) each week are the most brutal shit ever.

And it's not always "I hate this girl, wah~!" or whatever, there are some legitimately great scandals like girls scamming Lolita forums, girls selling blatantly blood-stained dresses as brand new, hilarious stories about meet-ups that are social train wrecks, hostile take-overs of communities, the previously mentioned creepy Mr Yan, etc. Good value if you have the time.

Every image example above are selected samples from "Secrets Posts" #183, #184, #185 and #186. There are screeds and screeds. Enjoy.

http://behind-the-bows.livejournal.com/

tl;dr:

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>petty vindictive community

It can only be nerdy girls.

There is a "brolita" section, but I didn't feel like going into that because it's hard to talk about it without sounding like I'm ripping into them for crossdressing. If anything, I'd be ripping into them mostly for the term "brolita" - why must we masculinise words before men can partake? Bromance, brolita, bronuts, bronies, brose even...

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(Brolita google search)
https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=b...ChMIjvS2xPKKxwIVBiemCh2OnAd3&biw=1280&bih=701

But you'd be right in saying that it's mostly the girls slinging the mud, be it because they are more inclined to or because they make up the majority of the fandom itself.
 
There is a "brolita" section, but I didn't feel like going into that because it's hard to talk about it without sounding like I'm ripping into them for crossdressing. If anything, I'd be ripping into them mostly for the term "brolita" - why must we masculinise words before men can partake? Bromance, brolita, bronuts, bronies, brose even...

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(Brolita google search)
https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=b...ChMIjvS2xPKKxwIVBiemCh2OnAd3&biw=1280&bih=701

But you'd be right in saying that it's mostly the girls slinging the mud, be it because they are more inclined to or because they make up the majority of the fandom itself.
That's weird, you'd think the men in that fandom would dress like a Victorian era dandy or something, oh well whatever makes them happy.
 
That's weird, you'd think the men in that fandom would dress like a Victorian era dandy or something, oh well whatever makes them happy.

There are some who do the whole dandy thing, there are lots of different off-shoots. Personally I've seen "brolita" be more popular but bear in mind I'm going off the drama, so that may be due to lolitas bitching about "brolita" more so me over-inflating their presence, who knows. But either way to be honest I don't really care about what they wear or what gender does it, whatever makes them happy is cool with me, I mostly consider them lol-cows due to the toxic backstabbing community and constant shit-storms.
 
I don't understand what makes them so salty.

I know fashion's culture is already a little fucked, but this seems more personal that usual...
Oh, believe me. It is. Girls will try to sabotage other girls due to their popularity or branding choices... Not to mention their race, weight or height. Nothing is safe! What is fun is when white girls will go on and on about how that's not what the Japanese do, and then the popular Japanese houses actually do said thing, it's like the best thing eeeevvvvaaar! I recall when girls on an EGL LJ were complaining about another girls custom dress that was made of satin, but the Japanese didn't use satin as one of the choice materials so... Kill it with fire! But then, I think it was Baby the Stars Shine Bright, or one of the other houses came out with a satin line and then it was so desudesu amazinguuu~

I do have a couple of Gothic Lolita Bibles and some of what is in those I wouldn't consider any part of the lolita style, but there it is. Even if you get a shirt made to the exact specifications to look like a particular brand, it is not kawaii when certain others of the group find out it isn't from a fashion house. It is filth to be ripped apart and spat upon.
 
Oh, believe me. It is. Girls will try to sabotage other girls due to their popularity or branding choices... Not to mention their race, weight or height. Nothing is safe! What is fun is when white girls will go on and on about how that's not what the Japanese do, and then the popular Japanese houses actually do said thing, it's like the best thing eeeevvvvaaar! I recall when girls on an EGL LJ were complaining about another girls custom dress that was made of satin, but the Japanese didn't use satin as one of the choice materials so... Kill it with fire! But then, I think it was Baby the Stars Shine Bright, or one of the other houses came out with a satin line and then it was so desudesu amazinguuu~

I do have a couple of Gothic Lolita Bibles and some of what is in those I wouldn't consider any part of the lolita style, but there it is. Even if you get a shirt made to the exact specifications to look like a particular brand, it is not kawaii when certain others of the group find out it isn't from a fashion house. It is filth to be ripped apart and spat upon.

Girls sabotage guys/LGBTQ as well! No-one's safe from the salt!

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Oh, believe me. It is. Girls will try to sabotage other girls due to their popularity or branding choices... Not to mention their race, weight or height. Nothing is safe! What is fun is when white girls will go on and on about how that's not what the Japanese do, and then the popular Japanese houses actually do said thing, it's like the best thing eeeevvvvaaar! I recall when girls on an EGL LJ were complaining about another girls custom dress that was made of satin, but the Japanese didn't use satin as one of the choice materials so... Kill it with fire! But then, I think it was Baby the Stars Shine Bright, or one of the other houses came out with a satin line and then it was so desudesu amazinguuu~

I do have a couple of Gothic Lolita Bibles and some of what is in those I wouldn't consider any part of the lolita style, but there it is. Even if you get a shirt made to the exact specifications to look like a particular brand, it is not kawaii when certain others of the group find out it isn't from a fashion house. It is filth to be ripped apart and spat upon.
This is slightly outdated info. Maybe it used to be the case (I'm not really sure) but nowadays handmade is looked very highly upon. It just has to be well made and a lot of it isn't. Anyone who says handmade is ita even if it looks just like glorious burando is either a vendetta or trolling. Indie brands are very popular right now.
 
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