The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

[Spooky Doot Skelly]

I don't even watch anime lol.

ok then ur good buddy <3

 

[Coccxys]

So for sure there can't be a mistrial or does someone need to apply for it.

I don't know if it's something the defence can motion for but it looks very much like the judge isn't going to do it on his own here.

 

[Top Skink]

Am I seeing a reincarnation of Epsteindidnothingwrong or is this just a bit?

The Jew Mexican is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew Mexican and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back:
“I’ve been found out.”

 

[MoeChotto]

I don't know if it's something the defence can motion for but it looks very much like the judge isn't going to do it on his own here.

If they're able to do it, it'll be done on the record first thing Monday morning.

 

[Extreme Aneurysm]

The Jew Mexican is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew Mexican and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back:
“I’ve been found out.”

You're not funny, fuck you.

 

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[The Nameless One]

If there is a mistrial, then that just means we have to do this all over again, right? Would Nelson want to subject himself to that torment, or would it be a good idea because he would get a chance for a do-over while knowing exactly what tricks the prosecution will pull?

 

[Not Really Here]

If there is a mistrial, then that just means we have to do this all over again, right? Would Nelson want to subject himself to that torment, or would it be a good idea because he would get a chance for a do-over while knowing exactly what tricks the prosecution will pull?

It's complicated.
It depends on the cause of the mistrial, like if it's for prosecutorial misconduct then no second trial, they're just done.

 

[DumbDude42]

If there is a mistrial, then that just means we have to do this all over again, right? Would Nelson want to subject himself to that torment, or would it be a good idea because he would get a chance for a do-over while knowing exactly what tricks the prosecution will pull?

its impossible to tell whether his chances will be better with this jury or at a new trial with a different jury.
it would drag this shit out for a long ass time though, which would be pretty hard on chauvin cause he's fucking locked up the entire time.

 

[Lil Weed Lova]

If there is a mistrial, then that just means we have to do this all over again, right? Would Nelson want to subject himself to that torment, or would it be a good idea because he would get a chance for a do-over while knowing exactly what tricks the prosecution will pull?

If it's because the jury can't come to a conclusion then yes, they have to repeat it for all the charges except for the ones the jury can unanimously agree on.

 

[MoeChotto]

If there is a mistrial, then that just means we have to do this all over again, right? Would Nelson want to subject himself to that torment, or would it be a good idea because he would get a chance for a do-over while knowing exactly what tricks the prosecution will pull?

If the prosecution causes the mistrial, like for example by referencing evidence they were explicitly told not to reference, then no, they don't get another try.

its impossible to tell whether his chances will be better with this jury or at a new trial with a different jury.
it would drag this shit out for a long ass time though, which would be pretty hard on chauvin cause he's fucking locked up the entire time.

That would be odd as he is out on bond.

 

[AnOminous]

Lmao. guilty on all counts.

Reddit idiots.

Now that is truly dumb considering the elements for each count are different and mutually exclusive. Not that I'd be surprised if they did it anyway.

 

[Carbonation Grimace]

A mistrial with no chance of retrial would dial the chimpouts up to 11

 

[russian roulade]

It's complicated.
It depends on the cause of the mistrial, like if it's for prosecutorial misconduct then no second trial, they're just done.

All of the stuff with the prosecution dumping shit tons of unorganized, non-searchable, and non-relevant material on the defense constantly, with key information literally hidden inside random police training texts... Surely this would qualify as that? They even tried to pull much the same thing today. The judge has told them off for it in court two or three times that I've heard and I haven't been able to watch everything

 

[Special Agent Punchy]

Finger-clip pulse oximeters are a diagnostic tool and not the sine qua non of what's happening in the lungs and blood

Tobin said something about an arterial blood draw that they did while Floyd was at “Hennefim County” which I assume is the Hennepin hospital. It isn’t obvious to me how that would be relevant to CO intake before the resuscitation efforts, though?
All the papers I’ve found that discuss asphyxia and artial blood O2 concentration are behind subscriptions.

 

[AnOminous]

someone on reddit posted an example of jury instructions from another MN police use-of-force homicide case. Not sure if already posted here:

source

The ones actually in this case would probably be more useful:

https://mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12646/ProposedJuryInstructions04012021.pdf

https://mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12646/ProposedJuryInstructions02082021.pdf

These are currently the proposed instructions by both sides. The ultimate decision is up to the judge.

 

[EvaBraunsGhost]

If he didn't directly make that argument I wouldn't count on it sticking with the jury. Lots of people don't know about O2 sats and what they mean, and as they say, juries are made up of people too stupid to get out of jury duty.

While this is true, don't forget that there is a nurse on the jury who will know EXACTLY what this means

Hell, I know purely from having a son with v severe asthma that has hospitalised him several times

You aren't slowly suffocating if you've got sats of 98%

IF this rules out poisoning, it also rules out asphyxiation

If it's argued it could still be asphyxiation because CPR raised the O2 sats, then that also means it could still be poisoning

If that nurse isn't completely biased and is honest, this will be a huge sticking point - it's definitely (or SHOULD be) a huge dent for the prosecution case which, lets face it, has been a joke from the start

They don't even have a coherent narrative of HOW Floyd died so how it can possibly be proven Chauvin caused it or contributed is beyond me

But hey, its a garbage political case so I guess none of that applies, anyway

 

[Evil Enchilada]

Ended a little earlier than usual?

 

[Niggernerd]

just imagine what a trial by reddit would be like

Time for a heccin doggo break my good sirs, gals, xirs. 1..
2.... POGGERS

 

[AnOminous]

Just watched what happened today, what the fuck happened with the bullshit about not bringing up the oxygen tests? I'm sneeding rn

monday will be a long wait.

They tried to spring last minute evidence they'd (illegally) failed to turn over and the judge told them not to, but they did it anyway. It might have actually helped the defense. They hadn't turned over these oxygen tests until yesterday. And then they whisked the expert out of the state as quickly as possible, but only after the defense got him to admit Floyd had 98% oxygen saturation. Which you don't die of asphyxiation with.