The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
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What is it with these fucking overblown, racially charged trials having atrocious prosecutions?
Trayvons prosecutors were fucking abysmal, and these guys are not much better. Is it just luck of the not so Irish.
 
What is it with these fucking overblown, racially charged trials having atrocious prosecutions?
Trayvons prosecutors were fucking abysmal, and these guys are not much better. Is it just luck of the not so Irish.

It's hard to have a competent prosecution when your case is bullshit from the start.
 
One weak point I see is the prosecution has to show Chauvin actually was aware of a risk of death or grave bodily harm, not just that he should have been. How could he know this drugged up felon had a million medical things wrong with him that would cause him to die from something that would not kill a normal person?
It's Monday morning. 9:30 a.m.

Judge Cahill's 4-day break has run a little late (lawyerly as usual). It's time for a hearing before the jury enters the chambers. Prosecutor Blackwell steps up to the stand.

"Your Honor, the state has discovered some critical evidence over the weekend." Prosecutor Eldridge is visible in the frame, her wrinkled, witch-like face contorted in sadistic glee. Nelson objects, immediately. He's turning red and his collar is noticeably sweaty.

"Mr. Nelson, I'd like to hear the state out before dealing with any objections." Nelson fumes, but is silenced.

"Your Honor," Blackwell continues, face painted with a knowing smirk. "The state has received incontrovertible evidence that will break this case wide-open."

Cahill's ears perk up. Blackwell had just uttered the magic word, and the Midwestern judge is under the prosecutor's spell now. After a short 5-minite stretch break, Blackwell, seizing the opportunity, turns around and strides three majestic paces to the door behind him. He throws it open with a grand flourish, and from the doorway emerges a faintly glowing full body Google hologram of George Floyd himself. "I am the real George Floyd, returned to life through the power of Disney's cutting-edge holographic projection technology and the illustrious Google's powerful data collection." Nelson's head is in his hands, furious. He steals a glance at Floyd's brand new Nike shoes sporting the words "BLACK LIVES MATTER" on the sides. Hologram Floyd's red and blue striped Ralph Lauren polo shimmers as the words "NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE" flash holographically in front of it.

"Your Honor, George Floyd is here with a video that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Derek Chauvin murdered GF in the first degree, and as such we would like to upgrade the charges."

Judge Cahill doesn't even respond, too taken aback at the glorious Black hologram before him, and merely nods his head, mouth agape. Derek Chauvin sinks in his chair, looking towards Eric Nelson for safety, but seeing only a chubby Midwesterner angrily sobbing into his hands. Hologram Floyd opens his eyes wide, and a video projection erupts from them. The video depicts two men, unmistakably GF and Chauvin, standing next to each other. Floyd in the video hands Chauvin a sheath of papers. "Apologies, Officer. Here are my medical records. Now if you'll excuse me, I am rather famished, so I'll be next door at Cup Foods if you's need me." Chauvin in the video snatches the papers, looks at them and reads aloud, "90% artery blockage and enlarged heart, huh? That'll make this dumb nigger easy to murder."

The video fast forwards until the point where George is pulled out of the squad car. Courtroom Chauvin steals a glance at rhe prosecutor's desk. Eldridge is staring at him, eyes wide and mouth half open with an enormous evil grin creeping over her twisted, knobby face. She nods slowly and draws her finger across her neck slowly and deliberately. The two other prosecutors are bowing to Blackwell, kissing his feet, and struggling to unbuckle his belt in a sign of submission.

Judge Cahill, still on board, says it's time for the mid-late-morning break. After about 35 minutes, the video resumes and Chauvin is seen leaping atop Floyd, who is screaming "I CAN'T BREATHE, NO JUSTICE NO PEACE, HANDS UP DON'T SHOOT!" Chauvin grabs the poor innocent Black man's bald head and shoves his face into the squad car's exhaust pipes, laughing wickedly. He grabs a concrete block from nearby and throws it with all his might onto Floyd's back, and then jumps up and down on the man's back. Video Floyd dies, weakly rattling out the words "My mother, who passed last year... Georgie's comin' home..." and the light vanishes from his eyes.

In the courtroom, Nelson finally finds the balls to shout, "Objection, Your Honor! This is absurd—" "Overruled, Counselor Nelson. I think this case has just been decided. I declare Derek Chauvin GUILTY of first degree murder. As such I sentence him to the death penalty. He will be burned on a pyre dedicated to Black Lives Matter." Nelson screeches, practically vibrating with rage. His young assistant stands up and slaps him in the face, walking over to Hologram Floyd and wraps her arms around him. The courtroom doors open to a crowd of cheering BLM protestors in the middle of setting fire to an office on the 18th floor. They flood the courtroom chanting, "No justice! No peace! Defund the police!" and carry the prosecution team out on their shoulders to the next trial, a case in which Blackwell is defending 3M from a lawsuit for putting asbestos in their COVID-safe face masks. Hologram Floyd throws Chauvin to the ground with a "Sorry, white boi," and puts him in the prone control position for 9 mins and 39 seconds under the full weight of his knee. Nelson is beaten down by the mostly white crowd and strapped to an upside-down crucifix, as is the now-dead Chauvin. Both are burned at the stake along with the entire Brooklyn center police department after a 2-hour break later that afternoon.

Anyway that's how I think Monday will go.
 
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"Your Honor, George Floyd is here with a video that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Derek Chauvin murdered GF in the first degree, and as such we would like to upgrade the charges."

Already been tried in Rashomon. They summoned the dead to tell his side of the story, and even he was full of shit.

Edit: FUCK, there's no subtitles.

 
As others have said declaring a mistrial there and then would mean the barbarian hoards would desend upon the court house so judge could be playing it smart. I bet the jury were hoping it would mistrial before they have to give a verdict, they have the options of convict someone despite reasonable doubt or acquit and risk a media doxing followed by the aforementioned hoards, someone else calling it would let them off dealing with that shit.
If I were on that jury I'd probably be angling hard for a hung jury/mistrial if I were thinking self-preservation. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I voted guilty on a man with reasonable doubt, but with a hung jury nobody would know which way I voted even if the jurors were doxed.
 
What is it with these fucking overblown, racially charged trials having atrocious prosecutions?
Trayvons prosecutors were fucking abysmal, and these guys are not much better. Is it just luck of the not so Irish.
1. A lot of prosecutors are just bad. Their cases are often slam dunks as they have to deal with moron criminals where the investigative work has already been done by the police. If there is some doubt to the case it will likely not go to court.
2. If a case goes to court because of politics there is a danger for the case having lots of doubt surrounding it.
 
What is it with these fucking overblown, racially charged trials having atrocious prosecutions?
Trayvons prosecutors were fucking abysmal, and these guys are not much better. Is it just luck of the not so Irish.
Every single prosecutor with dreams of being the DA or higher office attempt to force their way onto the prosecution team, thinking that they have a slam dunk case and want to ride along for glory. Eventually the team is filled with political glory hounds and diversity hires, who force out the few competent people who actually know how to win cases.

As the affirmative action squad fucks up more and more instead of someone taking charge and attempting to unfuck their now completly fucked case they start covering their own asses and setting up their co counsels to take the blame.
 
1. A lot of prosecutors are just bad. Their cases are often slam dunks as they have to deal with moron criminals where the investigative work has already been done by the police. If there is some doubt to the case it will likely not go to court.
2. If a case goes to court because of politics there is a danger for the case having lots of doubt surrounding it.

Every single prosecutor with dreams of being the DA or higher office attempt to force their way onto the prosecution team, thinking that they have a slam dunk case and want to ride along for glory. Eventually the team is filled with political glory hounds and diversity hires, who force out the few competent people who actually know how to win cases.

As the affirmative action squad fucks up more and more instead of someone taking charge and attempting to unfuck their now completly fucked case they start covering their own asses and setting up their co counsels to take the blame.
There has to be a joke about "Law Abiding Citizen" here, but I'm too tired and/or lazy to find it.

 
No, I'm claiming that if Chauvin is found innocent, then "an anoymous source" will leak these pictures to the appropriate BLM/Antifa people.

Even if the woman gets caught, she will just be a martyr for the cause for having helped expose those racist jurors.
Her Icloud will get "HACKED" tm and the photos will get dumped.
 
Except I don’t think what they did was intentional.
Yeah, the incompetence is definitely not intentional. There's no way anyone involved with this trial wants a mistrial. There's been some speculation that the blood gas test business was a 5D feint from Nelson, but that's just fun ridiculousness.

Don't forget that he works for the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association. While I'm sure his ego would love to see another client walk away from court scott-free, Chauvin isn't the only member of the police keeping him employed. Acquittal would to be troublesome, but a mistrial would be disastrous for MPPOA and police in Minnesota are already hurting. Nelson's job is to make sure Chauvin gets a fair shake in court. Nothing more or less.

Mistrial gang for life, tho
 
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so many conditions occurring at once makes it impossible to pinpoint a cause of death
Michael Baden, in his book 'Unnatural Death', points out that the office of the Medical Examiner is often subject to intense political pressure to make (or hide) certain findings at autopsy. To the point where he himself lost his job as Chief ME for NYC after two months for not ruling a police nightstick strangulation as 'psychosis with exhaustion'.

The Floyd report has all the hallmarks of a Medical Examiner who has followed instructions to make sure there was enough wriggle room in the autopsy findings to charge Chauvin.
I have zero faith in the accuracy and truth of the ME's report; 'cardiopulmonary arrest complicating arrest' etc blames Chauvin but the report doesn't explain WHY Chauvin is at fault. After all, there are zero reported antemortem injuries consistent with a pressure asphyxiation or strangulation/neck compression, and a fuckton of complicating factors. And two or three of those factors alone could have killed Floyd at any time even without police involvement.

Did Floyd's interaction with Police lead to his sudden death? Arguably, yes.
Were the Police directly and knowingly complicit in his death? Arguably, no.
Does the autopsy report muddy the waters by not justifying how their findings were arrived at? Absolutely.
 
I think this might be one of the more worthless and unbearable garbage posts in this thread and that is count 200 instance of "guys i think the jury may give a guilty verdict because they're afraid of BLM/activists!" and those awful fucking megaman """comics"""

Monday can't come soon enough
Already been tried in Rashomon. They summoned the dead to tell his side of the story, and even he was full of shit.

Edit: FUCK, there's no subtitles.

Null, please, I really need the puzzle piece sticker back.
 
Yeah, the incompetence is definitely not intentional. There's no way anyone involved with this trial wants a mistrial.
There's been some speculation that the blood gas test business was a 5D feint from Nelson, but that's just fun ridiculousness. Don't forget that he works for the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association.
While I'm sure his ego would love to see another client walk away from court scott-free, Chauvin isn't the only member of the police keeping him employed. Acquittal would to be troublesome, but a mistrial would be disastrous for MPPOA and police in Minnesota are already hurting.
Nelson's job is to make sure Chauvin gets a fair shake in court. Nothing more or less.

Mistrial gang for life, tho
I honestly am not even sure about that.

See, if there is a mistrial, they can always spin the narrative forever that the racist judge fucked them, and it shows how blatantly corrupt the court system is that Floyd's killer walked free, and black people get no justice through the courts because of systemic racism and all that.

I don't think that's what they were going for, but it wouldn't surprise me. The MSM/CNN will always cover for them that they are the ones that caused the mistrial and it's all the fault of a rogue racist judge.
 
It's hard to have a competent prosecution when your case is bullshit from the start.
Well, that police chief testified that Chauvin wasn't following policy by continuing to pin Floyd down, and then they had medical experts who testified that pinning Floyd in that position contributed to his death. And there was that one doctor from Northwestern. Northwestern! Don't you know how prestigious that is?

A juror determined to find fault with Chauvin has testimony to latch onto. That police chief really threw Chauvin under the bus.
 
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