The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

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[wtfNeedSignUp]

Following the thread and I can't see it ending in any way that isn't a guilty verdict. After having the presidential elections not being investigated because of fear of retribution AND the majority of the population not doing anything about it, expecting this to be anything but a glorified kangaroo trial is optimistic. You could have Jesus himself on a stand saying the jogger died of an overdose, it won't change shit because everyone involved already started it with their mind set on the guy being guilty. At best the punishment will be cut afterwards and the media won't report on it.

 

[TLEN]

Fuck truth and fuck justice, I just want the verdict that will cause the most butthurt, media meltdown and riots. Mistrial with no retrial due to a prosecution fuckup seems to be the best option in that regard.
You only lose if you don't sneed during and after this woke joke of a trial.

 

[pearlslam]

Following the thread and I can't see it ending in any way that isn't a guilty verdict. After having the presidential elections not being investigated because of fear of retribution AND the majority of the population not doing anything about it, expecting this to be anything but a glorified kangaroo trial is optimistic. You could have Jesus himself on a stand saying the jogger died of an overdose, it won't change shit because everyone involved already started it with their mind set on the guy being guilty. At best the punishment will be cut afterwards and the media won't report on it.

I'd agree with you, but there is a little-known thing known as the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals. They SHOULD have the conviction tossed because of multiple Brady violations let alone yesterday's (as I am writing this) bullshit. How many witnesses did the defense call? Like 2? After that expert flew home, the State tried to Ace Attorney that report and the judge wouldn't let them. Prime example of why the 8th needs to step in, no?

 

[Rungle]

The big league riots are going to start this weekend, the jury will notice and pronounce him guilty due to fear of being the nigger hordes next target.
Alot of the jury already expressed their fears.
his trial is anything but fair.

 

[aussiejinjo]

judicial systems for what its worth are still fairly robust as well. they're some of the few non-compromised institutions left in clown world. i dont share the pessimism of the people here even though i understand it.

 

[pearlslam]

The big league riots are going to start this weekend, the jury will notice and pronounce him guilty due to fear of being the nigger hordes next target.
Alot of the jury already expressed their fears.
his trial is anything but fair.

Thankfully the 8th Circuit should put a stop to the nonsense.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Following the thread and I can't see it ending in any way that isn't a guilty verdict. After having the presidential elections not being investigated because of fear of retribution AND the majority of the population not doing anything about it, expecting this to be anything but a glorified kangaroo trial is optimistic. You could have Jesus himself on a stand saying the jogger died of an overdose, it won't change shit because everyone involved already started it with their mind set on the guy being guilty. At best the punishment will be cut afterwards and the media won't report on it.

They said exactly the same thing when they tried to flimflam the zimzam.
Certainly, a guilty verdict would clearly be a miscarriage of justice, but there is still a chance this will not turn out the way that BLM and the Democrats are desperately trying to make happen.

 

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judicial systems for what its worth are still fairly robust as well. they're some of the few non-compromised institutions left in clown world. i dont share the pessimism of the people here even though i understand it.

I dunno, the left has pozzed several important institutions (the 9th circuit for example, as well as the CoA that covers New York) and are assmad that Trump cockblocked them in the SCOTUS, which WAS pozzed -- Roe vs Wade, for example, creating the right to murder babies out of thin air, while maintaining for 60 years that the Second Amendment is some sort of "lesser" amendment not subject to strict scruitiny. The left is really, really, REALLY reliant on twisting our government into some sort of "Judiciary as kingmaker" system and then corrupting the Judiciary to force their crap through.

This is before the upcoming batch of "Critical Legal Theory" Marxist-turned-Activist Lawyers, like that bimbo who openly suggested to the Appeals court that CPS should have the right to lie to the court if they think they're doing what's best for the kids. Give them another 20 years and said bimbo will be a judge who will happily overturn a not-guilty ruling on the grounds of "it's not FAIR to find Chauvin not guilty since he's white and his victim was black, I'm overruling the jury."

In short, I do not share your optimism about the Judicial system. It might not be as pozzed as it could be, but for the past 5 years the 9th circuit has basically been a "get out of election loss consequences free" card for the left, something I don't see the right ever being able to match.

 

[aussiejinjo]

you can't overturn not guilty verdicts, only guilty verdicts

it would require eliminating double jeopardy to overturn not guilty verdicts

 

[TLEN]

Chauvin walks, then cops accidentally find CP on his desktop, a stash of meth under his bed and a fake 20$ bill.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

you can't overturn not guilty verdicts, only guilty verdicts

it would require eliminating double jeopardy to overturn not guilty verdicts

"Double Jeopardy is an antiquated system of the straight white male patriarchy, and thus I feel we should ignore it. I'm tossing out the Jury's verdict. He's guilty. Bxiliff Tanishqua, take him away!"

 

[Wy4M]

Fucking christ can we add "ribs crushed to dust" under possible causes of death?

That's how CPR works. If you are not crushing the ribs, you are doing it wrong. That's why I don't really bother with training for it anymore.

fyi - according to the autopsy report there was a single rib fracture due to CPR.
I think it looks worse than it is.



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[DiabeticSP]

I think he gets manslaughter for purely ACAB points then its overturned quietly on appeal.

What's the standard accidental manslaughter sentence anyways?

 

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What's the standard accidental manslaughter sentence anyways?

If you're a CEO of a big corporation with $20 billion annual revenue? a $500k fine.

If you're a white woman who killed 12 disabled orphans in a car crash (your 109th DUI)? 6 months probation.

If you're a wh*te m*le cop who killed L'Jesus D'Christ? Life without parole.

 

[Not Really Here]

Tobin technically did nothing wrong, He was asked why he though CO poisoning was unlikely and he gave his answer as he saw fit. What is a violation is what information he was allowed to reference, for instance: medical data from this recently obtained report.

Like I said in my big post, the fact that he said something that the judge said was a strictly forbidden topic makes me think he didn't know there was this restriction.

As far as I am aware: The associated report that contains the hospital's analytical readings on the arterial blood gases of George Floyd, that the prosecution nearly caused mistrial to enter in as evidence and was denied doing so, has not been released to public. Nobody online knows what it's contents are. The only people who know its contents for sure are the ME, Potatodoc, the prosecution, and the defense. I doubt Cahill saw it apart from the physical papers, and we know for sure the jury has not and will not be seeing it.

We can assume whatever the findings are, at least the on the surface, they are favorable to the prosecution. I know people have questioned the competence of the prosecution at many points throughout this trial, but I doubt they would want this put forward if it didn't help them. It is probably hard evidence to contradict Fowler's opinion that GF's CO level could have been 18%. But that's entirely the issue at present, Nelson's defense is reasonable doubt due to contributing factors. If he was aware of this report from the outset of the trial, he would have crafted a different defense, which undermines the idea that Derek Chauvin is supposed to get a fair trial, which includes the best legal defense reasonably possible.

The defense subpoenaed the hospital for all their medical records on Floyd, they didn't turn over a blood draw test showing that Floyd had 98% O2, until it was useful to the prosecution in a case where it was being argued the defendant killed a victim via asphyxia.
The break judge split the baby saying that since both sides had the information from the finger pulse ox in the ambulance, the doctor could refer to the fact of 98% but NOT the test in question.
After the defense had rested, their expert witness was out of state, and the defense had no way to rebut the testimony.
There's no way to argue the "smoking doesn't cause lung damage to 90% of people" "Doctor" wasn't referring to the disallowed test rather than the pulse ox if he used the word "test" and not 'pulse ox monitor'.

But O2 levels don't really matter that much in a criminal case where the prosecution spent like 80% of the time that the cop suffocated a guy with a knee somewhere.

 

[Coccxys]

Would the judge face any penalties if the appellant court found a clear Brady violation that the judge actually remarked upon but allowed the case to continue? Surely there is some system for if a judge let's a jury convict a defendant when they clearly should have stepped in and put a stop to it?

 

[Not Really Here]

Would the judge face any penalties if the appellant court found a clear Brady violation that the judge actually remarked upon but allowed the case to continue? Surely there is some system for if a judge let's a jury convict a defendant when they clearly should have stepped in and put a stop to it?

LOL.

 

[Coccxys]

LOL.

Well it's not uncommon here for judges to get sanctions if they pull obviously dumb shit. But then we don't do stupid stuff like elect our judges or let politicians appoint them.

 

[Glenallen Mixon]

Is anyone else still desparately confused over what is going on? So like, there's this report which would be damning to the asphyxiation narrative, I get that much. But the prosecution wanted it to be brought up? Why? Wouldn't it destroy their main claim which is 'Floyd died cause knee neck?'" Was it just to counter the "Floyd died cause of the car fumes" thing? But also someone said that it wouldn't even counter that to begin with? If this is a crucial piece of evidence to either side why is it banned? Because they wouldn't have time to prepare for it? And if so why is that such a big deal?

Please help, I think I'm retarded or something cause I was easily following the case up until this shit.