US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
No, I'm making a point about power. You say that you "don't invade neighbors when you feel like it"-- if that's the case, why not? "Because it's something you don't do" isn't a good response. "Because if you do we'll push you back and wreck your shit on top of that" is.
That's more or less what I meant by mentioning the military alliances in my reply. In an ideal world, the attacked country should either be able to defend itself or at least make any military action prohibitively expensive, with regards either to money or blood. Nobody wants to attack Switzerland for example and it's not only because of their terrain. But the world is not perfect so, pragmatically speaking, alliances are useful as such deterrence - you try and pool military force of more than one country.

I think we're in a kind of agreement here, but my polfaggery causes some failure to communicate properly.
 
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I get that the visual contrast between the #WeNeedNine image and the #ExpandTheCourt one is humorous, but both times he's demanding that Democrat power in the Supreme Court be expanded (WeNeedNine was over McConnell holding up Merrick Garland's appointment, i.e. the court was only at 8 ). It's not really the dunk people think it is, and I'm seeing it all over right wing social media.
 
I missed the Supreme Court Saga apparently.
Antonin Scalia died in Jan 2016, Obama nominated Merrick Garland to replace him, McConnell pulled out some statement Biden made about the first Bush not nominating a replacement Justice in the leadup to the 1992 election to justify not even bringing the issue to the floor, and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth over this. Then Trump got elected and put Gorsuch in that seat, which is why extremely partisan Democrats consider it "stolen" from them.

Of course, McConnell ignoring the same "Biden Rule" that he memed into existence 4 years later to ram Amy Coney Barrett into the court last fall did him no favors, in terms of pretending it was about setting precedent and not naked party maneuvering.
 
I don't negate the usefulness of military alliances themselves. NATO is a military alliance that was meant to counteract possible Soviet aggression and now is aimed directly at Russia and is used to antagonize Russia. They got scope-creeped hard after dissolution of USSR, because they suddenly achieved they (un)stated objective and were, in fact, obsolete. So they reinvented themselves from a purely defensive alliance to America's meddlers.

Ukraine should not antagonize its bigger and stronger neighbor at the behest of foreign interests, which is exactly what happened in this case. They got played and share part of the blame.
Fundamentally, I think the issue emerged from three points:

1. NATO did not dismantle Russia after the Cold War, nor did they work with Russia to solve the issues of the 90s. Instead, they chose to leave Russians to endure the worst of shock-capitalism while expanding into the former Warsaw Pact zone. Combined with the NATO involvement in Yugoslavia (which was a wakeup call), that ultimately left room for a resurgent Russia that sees a clear threat from the West, and which views the political events in its neighboring countries (i.e. the color revolutions) with suspicions of subterfuge.

2. Western inability to understand Russian culture and its political peculiarities, while treating it as a failed state stuck in the Soviet era. As such, many Russians eventually began to see the West as an antagonist, and a strongman who would 'Make Russia Great Again' was from that point on inevitable. I suspect the whole Fukuyama-esque End of History concepts played into this, where a completely Westernized Eastern Europe was seen as inevitable, and Western Democracy as the 'best' form of government/culture.

The cascading failures of American culture & politics from the 2000s onwards has given impetus for a cultural disconnection from the rest of Europe + some relatively improved economic conditions + a resurgence in state-sponsored 'traditional' culture/religion as a buffer- resulting in many Russians no longer seeing themselves entirely as culturally European (i.e. considering the West as becoming effeminate and in decline).

3. Russia's current geography works to its disadvantage, and its European moves are both a combination of Soviet irredentism (i.e. reclaiming territory given away by the Soviets) & are aimed at resolving its long-standing border issues and finding better natural boundaries. The Baltics in NATO (let alone an Ukraine) fundamentally gives the US a straight path to Moscow, hence Russian moves to secure assets and trigger frozen wars to prevent ascention.
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(Obviously this image is intentionally provocative, but even a border at the Dnieper is far better than the current borders. On top of that, the collapse of the Soviet order left millions of Russians outside Russia, which adds an additional cultural element to this as well).

I've heard people describe the democrats as alpha. They are not alpha, they are desperate and desperate people are the most dangerous. So America first needs to get cracking and shore up them voting laws. They do that then the 2022 midterms sorts itself out.
Yeah, I don't see them as alphas, I see them as snakes who would gladly bite their friends if it meant getting ahead (and how this happens so often).

Unfortunately, history has its fair share of snakes who have gotten away with some pretty nasty things, to the detriment of their countries and citizens.
 
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Antonin Scalia died in Jan 2016, Obama nominated Merrick Garland to replace him, McConnell pulled out some statement Biden made about the first Bush not nominating a replacement Justice in the leadup to the 1992 election to justify not even bringing the issue to the floor, and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth over this. Then Trump got elected and put Gorsuch in that seat, which is why extremely partisan Democrats consider it "stolen" from them.

Of course, McConnell ignoring the same "Biden Rule" that he memed into existence 4 years later to ram Amy Coney Barrett into the court last fall did him no favors, in terms of pretending it was about setting precedent and not naked party maneuvering.
The issue was the final two years of a term limited president with a Senate controlled by the opposition party.
The only connection to Trump was that retards wanted to screech about more fictional shit.
 
Antonin Scalia died in Jan 2016, Obama nominated Merrick Garland to replace him, McConnell pulled out some statement Biden made about the first Bush not nominating a replacement Justice in the leadup to the 1992 election to justify not even bringing the issue to the floor, and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth over this. Then Trump got elected and put Gorsuch in that seat, which is why extremely partisan Democrats consider it "stolen" from them.

Of course, McConnell ignoring the same "Biden Rule" that he memed into existence 4 years later to ram Amy Coney Barrett into the court last fall did him no favors, in terms of pretending it was about setting precedent and not naked party maneuvering.
I was referring to the Chris emoji, but thank you, that was :informative:.
 
ThE uNiTeD sTaTeS iS aLrEaDy In NaTo ThOuGh.

More seriously though I wish Ukraine would just rebuild its nuclear arsenal. The EU is too busy sucking up Russian gas to want to get involved and the US is busy tumbling up the stairs along with Biden. Their unwavering support didn't do much for Ukraine in 2014 and the only serious NATO player is issuing sanctions for interference in the "most secure election in US history" rather than the military buildup and threat of war.

Relying on other nations to fight your battles or even adhere to treaties created to prevent those battles from happening has been a losing move for Ukraine.
No one's ever going to let the khokhly rebuild their arsenal. You thought the sanctions on Iran were bad, they're at least a stable government whose upper leadership can be reasoned with. It's bad enough Pakistan has the bomb, no one's ever going to let a bunch of cossack larpers have access to nuclear weapons.
 
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To consider, this would be the equivalent if Trump had missed Abe's meeting, and Pence had to fill in instead- while I don't think Japan would consider it a diplomatic slight (since everyone knows that Biden is well past his prime), no doubt there are diplomatic contingencies being written up right now in case he croaks.
 
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nor did they work with Russia to solve the issues of the 90s. Instead, they chose to leave Russians to endure the worst of shock-capitalism
lol this is absurd, those were Russia's internal issues, how did NATO countries "leave Russians to endure the worst of shock-capitalism"? What they were supposed to do exactly? Force russian lawmakers to adopt different policies? how would NATO countries openly forcing Russian lawmakers to change economic policies make Russians more at ease with west? And how can you know that different approach would be better? Never before was there anything remotely similar in economics, huge centrally planned economy shitting bed so badly that it was reverting to barter, while also undergoing division into separate political entities.
Mind that at this point USSR and USA had been arch enemies for half a century, eyeing each other as a deadly threat. Just few years prior to USSR dissolution, USA was giving Afghans weapons to kill Russians, and Soviets were funding anti-american paramilitaries throughout South America. When SU collapsed, USA could have acted like total dicks, tighten the screw even more, instead they have removed all economic sanctions and did a total reset in diplomacy. I have doubts if SU would behave similarly if roles were reversed
 
Of note- Biden AFK again:

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To consider, this would be the equivalent if Trump had missed Abe's meeting, and Pence had to fill in instead- while I don't think Japan would consider it a diplomatic slight (since everyone knows that Biden is well past his prime), no doubt there are diplomatic contingencies being written up right now in case he croaks.
Still not used to it not being Abe, that guy was around for ages.
 
lol this is absurd, those were Russia's internal issues, how did NATO countries "leave Russians to endure the worst of shock-capitalism"? What they were supposed to do exactly? Force russian lawmakers to adopt different policies? how would NATO countries openly forcing Russian lawmakers to change economic policies make Russians more at ease with west? And how can you know that different approach would be better? Never before was there anything remotely similar in economics, huge centrally planned economy shitting bed so badly that it was reverting to barter, while also undergoing division into separate political entities.
Mind that at this point USSR and USA had been arch enemies for half a century, eyeing each other as a deadly threat. Just few years prior to USSR dissolution, USA was giving Afghans weapons to kill Russians, and Soviets were funding anti-american paramilitaries throughout South America. When SU collapsed, USA could have acted like total dicks, tighten the screw even more, instead they have removed all economic sanctions and did a total reset in diplomacy. I have doubts if SU would behave similarly if roles were reversed
Well I probably could have worded it better, but my point was that NATO neither dismantled Russia nor provided significant aid, but instead chose to politically expand into the former Warsaw pact- which was ultimately bound to leave room for a potential resurgent Russia with irredentist ideas in the future- which was what ultimately ended up happening.

The Imperial mindset doesn't go away that easily, after all- Turkey is enough proof of that.
 
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